X-FACTOR LOG 1250 MG DAY + Ecdysten
07-02-2006 10:00 PM
07-02-2006 10:46 PM
Hey man, this is a great log your keeping. I am thinking about running an XF + Anagen log eventually, so this is great to read to see how well it works. I just have one question though, I have read other people mention that XF increases appetite, have you experienced this?? I have a huge appetite already and I am not a big guy, so I've wondered if this would just destroy me. Keep up the work man, looking good!!
07-03-2006 10:57 AM
Thanks for the kind words man. Yes, it does increase appetite. But look at it this way: The more you eat clean food, and keep yourself full, cut refined sugars, and eat rice, oatmeal, plenty of cottage cheese, whey, etc.. Allow yourself one reasonable cheat day a week, and once you're into it, it will be pretty easy. Look at my diet on the previous pages and you will see that eating 8 times a day makes you feel full all the time. I often feel bloated, and am still hungry. When this happends, I take an AMP, and I am okay for the day, because the appetite suppresion on this one is one of the best around.
Originally Posted by lilkev42
Best of luck for your upcoming cycle.
07-03-2006 04:45 PM
This was a seriously good day. It was hot and humid outside. I felt an extremely good pump today.
Decline Dumbbell Presses - 6-8 Reps 45, 50, 50
Flat Dumbbell Presses - 6-8 Reps 60, 50, 50
Incline Dumbbell Presses - 6-8 Reps 45, 50, 50
Incline Dumbbell Flyes - 6-8 Reps 25, 25, 25
Standing Dumbbell Curls - 6-8 Reps 35, 35, 35
Barbell Curls - 6-8 Reps 65, 65, 65
Standing Dumbbell Hammer Curls - 6-8 Reps 45, 45, 45
Okay, now I have 4 days left until X-Factor is done, so I will start up some JW, and crank up Ecdysten to 8 a day. I have 1 bottle remaining and it should last another 12 days. JW should not affect anything until the end of the ecdy cycle, IMO, and will start to kick in as soon as Ecdysten is done
07-03-2006 08:46 PM
Thanks for the tips, I usually eat around 6-7 clean meals a day now, so the diet shouldn't bother me. I just think I'll invest in some AMP, since from what I have tried, I loved it. Used it for energy and focus more than the appetite suppresion. I will have to try it other than pre-workout. Thanks again, and keep it up.
Originally Posted by jjohn
07-03-2006 09:54 PM
Does anyone have any empirical data on Ecdysten? I've searched around and found none. Also, I been taking a multi-vitamin for over 20 years which contains NAC at 1,200 mgs/day. I really don't want to stop the MV so I'm guessing X-factor is out of the question.
07-04-2006 05:02 PM
Thanks. The only way to go is to stop the MV, and replace with another brand while you do your XF cycle. The Ecdy is pretty weird. It all depends on the purity of the extract. I have tried Scifit's ecdy, and no results, but now I really feel more from it. And 15 mg. each pill is pretty realistic. I hope e-bol will come out soon. X-Factor can also cause joint pain, but it does not mean that it will totally counteract the product. Just that you will have less significant effects.
07-04-2006 05:06 PM
Today felt really good, but I found the workout to be short. When I got down the stairs in my basement, this is when I was proud of the effort I put in. I did legs, Shocker: I DID SQUATS
Barbell Squats 135, 155, 155 8 reps
Stiff leg deadlifts 145, 165, 165 8 reps
Leg extensions 70, 210, 195, then 30 static with 90 (8 reps)
Standing calf raises machine 2 x 30 reps (in, out, parallel)
Well, I upped the dose to 8 Ecdy a day, did not noticed a difference yet. We'll see tomorrow. I will keep it going on until I end with Ecdysten.
07-05-2006 09:38 PM
Today was a short and sweet workout. I did back:
T -Bar row 135, 90, 90 8 reps
Reverse-grip pulldowns 120, 120, 120 8 reps
Dumbell pullovers 45, 50, 50 8 reps
I left my keys in my car, and spent a lot of time trying to open the door, so that's why my workout did not include abs
07-06-2006 08:06 PM
I have had a very good day today. I felt like my skin could tear up. I love it. This is one of the best day I have had in all the cycle.
Press behind neck 105, 115, 105 6-8 reps
Side lateral raise dumbell 15, 15, 15 6-8 reps
Front dumbell raise 15, 15, 15 6-8 reps
(Barbell shrugs bar in front 20 reps, then barbell shrugs bar behind back 20 reps) 3 supersets of 135
Close-grip bench-press 95, 105, 105 6-8 reps
Reverse close-grip bench 65, 65, 65 6-8 reps.
Straight bar pushdowns 60, 60, 60 6-8 reps.
I was so pumped I found it hard to get my t-shirt off! wow. I dont know if the ecdysten at 8 a day makes a difference like that, but something was driving me all the workout!
07-07-2006 09:56 PM
Only one day left on XF. It's been great. I will post my weight tomorrow, as I dont even know how much it is as of now. I did some mixed forearms and abs today. Took it relax, but really felt the forearms pump, and the abs were really well done. Cant wait until tomorrow. I will still keep my log on for the remaining of Ecdy just to see if the gains are still coming
07-08-2006 05:34 PM
It's done. I just took the last taste of x-Factor today until my next cycle gets back. My weight is 181.5, and my waist is 34.5, which is about what it was at the beginning of the cycle. So all in all, I would say I gained around 4-5 pounds in LBM from day 10. So probably a rough guess would be a good 6 lbs gain, with no fat gain at all! Wow. I loved it. Next XF cycle will be the normal 50 day cycle to compare. I highly recommend those products as they will get the pounds on!
07-18-2006 02:38 AM
Nice log how can you justify the cost/benefit ratio of x factor, its kinda pricey, just curious.
07-18-2006 01:22 PM
Really worth it. Buy it, and it's not money wasted. Why? It works and gives great results like you just saw, and I will buy some more as long as it exists The really big + is no PCT is needed and all gains are kept, so this is priceless IMO, and a lot ssfer than hormone precursors..
Originally Posted by somewhatgifted
07-19-2006 02:43 AM
How many cycles have you ran? just wondering about cost as it is a fatty acid, no?
Originally Posted by jjohn
07-19-2006 07:31 AM
I have done 2 so far. I will do another one in 40 days approx. You don't pay for the AA, but for all the research these guys have done and bringing it to the bodybuilder's world.
07-19-2006 05:16 PM
NAC is not a problem with X-Factor.
We've got a new FAQ coming out that will explain the changes in directions. But basically, most of what was once off-limits is now okay.
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07-19-2006 05:19 PM
You guys can also discuss of it in MN's section. There are a couple threads in there..
07-19-2006 07:04 PM
How many caps a day were you taking?
07-19-2006 07:06 PM
I took 5 caps a day of XF. It lasts 40 days instead of 50 days. You should really get some man, you won't be dissapointed..
Originally Posted by canadian champ
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