Newbie Posts First Log—Vector and Follidrone 2.0

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by justhere4comm View Post
    Thank you for the incredibly detailed log!
    Thank you! I appreciate the support!


  2. Your a winner my friend. In for your ride!
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  3. Wow. You said you were between 188-193 when u started and weighed in at 197 today. I know a lot of that’s simply from eating but even half bc of supps which would be 4.5-2 lbs is awesome. Would b cool if u did some comparisons going forward. I know not everyone is down with that but it’s crazy valuable when evaluating gains. Just my 2 cents but awesome in any case
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  4. Newbie Posts First Log—Vector and Follidrone 2.0


    Quote Originally Posted by bloodnthunder View Post
    Wow. You said you were between 188-193 when u started and weighed in at 197 today. I know a lot of that’s simply from eating but even half bc of supps which would be 4.5-2 lbs is awesome. Would b cool if u did some comparisons going forward. I know not everyone is down with that but it’s crazy valuable when evaluating gains. Just my 2 cents but awesome in any case
    Thanks bloodnthunder!

    After two years of carefully monitoring my weight, daily calories, macro nutrients, and weekly body composition, I do know that my weight is highly variable. Water intake and retention (intracellular & extracellular), stools retention, glycogen replenishment, fat loss or gain, muscle loss or gain--these all play a part in body weight.

    For example, I estimate that 4.5 to 5 lbs of this weight gain is replenishment of my glycogen after a 7 week ketogenic diet. Remember, my liver glycogen was totally depleted 3 days after starting the keto diet! Stools have been a little hard lately as well so that might be some of it. Generally, my muscle gains have been as much as 1.5 lbs a month when routinely doing my weightlifting circuit. As an old guy, it's hard to build muscle!

    Interestingly, if I measure my muscle mass right after pumping heavy iron (and filling my muscles with blood and water) it can make a difference of up to 4-5 lbs muscle mass. So I generally don't lift 24 hours before hitting the InBody scale.

    My focus is on the body composition trends over time, not weekly weight gain. And if the body composition metrics from the InBody electrical impedance scale match my visual perception of my body over time, I trust the results.

    After my second week of the 7 week keto diet (May 12-June 30), the InBody scale said I lost 4 lbs of body fat in one week. I didn't believe it even though I could visually see a substantial reduction in body fat, especially in the belly area. In the next 5 weeks, the scale said I lost an additional 3 lbs. of body fat but I didn't really see it visually. The body does some weird stuff--gains and losses in body fat come in chunks for me when least expected. My last measurement in June put me at 15% body fat after being at 14% for several weeks. I didn't add fat mass, but I lost some muscle mass. On the other hand, my personal InBody band body fat measurement tool put me as low as 12% during that time. My conclusion is that my body fat percent is probably between 13% and 15%. When I started measuring body fat percent with the InBody scale, it was 35%...and I looked like it!

    I'm going back for body composition measurement in three weeks. That should give me a better indication of what is going on during this Vector/Follidrone log.

    By that time I should be able to post my body composition difference results from late June to late July. I'm thinking AM members will find it interesting.

    I look at this month as an experiment. In fact, there is nothing more fun for me than experimenting with different diet, supplement, and fitness protocols and routines. I'm learning by doing, just like everything in life.

    To make a long story short, I believe the Vector/Follidrone is partially responsible for hardening and strengthening my muscles based on my past 16 months of experience weightlifting. Time will tell.

    Again, thank you for your support!

    Humble

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bigsmall View Post
    Your a winner my friend. In for your ride!
    Thanks bigsmall! I appreciate your vote of confidence!
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  6. Newbie Posts First Log—Vector and Follidrone 2.0


    July 9, 2018

    Before starting, I have a question for BLR reps or anyone who has been using Vector/Follidrone. Does it make sense to skip dosing of Vector/Follidrone or maybe take a half dose on rest days?

    Now back to the program already in progress!

    Great day! Slept 6 1/2 hours! Had a great workout! Trying to get the “pop” back in my biceps. The biceps and brachialis were pumped up big time! And after two earlier “easy” biceps workouts over the past 8 days, they were finally ready for some volume! My lats need serious work and today they felt stronger during the workout than a couple days ago.

    I’m going to scale back to 5 workouts per week instead of 6. Six workouts last week had my butt dragging by Saturday! These old muscles need more recovery time! So no log tomorrow and Thursday. Be back at it on Wednesday!

    8:30am
    3 Eggs sunny side up. 2 pieces bacon. 6oz raspberries. Vitamins and natty test boosters. 470 calories. 20% carbs; 50% fat; 30% protein

    Weight = 197lbs

    11am: Pre-workout: GNC Beyond Raw Lit-Spiced Cider flavor w/ 20oz of water, 2 tablespoons of Braggs apple cider vinegar, and 1/2 tablespoon of ashagwandha.

    11:30am
    Pre-workout: Controlled Labs White Rapids powder with 20oz water, 1 scoop; HyperBuild EEAs w/ 4g creatine, 1 scoop

    3 capsules Vector
    2 capsules Follidrone

    Ollie Peanut Butter Chocolate protein bar
    6 oz Raspberries
    Mini Chocolate candy bar
    400 calories, 45% carbs; 25% fat; 30% protein.

    12Noon: Controlled Labs Purple Wrath Intraworkout powder with 20oz water, 2 scoops.

    No cardio

    HIIT resistance circuit
    12:00Noon-1:00pm

    Close grip lat pull down cable machine (30 sec between sets)
    80# 4 x 10

    Diverging Lat Pull Down machine (30 sec between sets)
    80# 4 x 10

    High row reverse grip plate machine - targeting lower lats (30 sec between sets)
    140# resistance 4 x 8

    EZ bar inside grip curl (60 sec between sets)
    70# x 4 x 8
    60# x 1 x 16

    EZ bar outside grip curl (30 sec between sets)
    60# x 4 x 10

    EZ bar inside grip reverse curls (30 sec between sets)
    50# x 4 x 8
    40# x 4 x 16

    DB alternating arm curls w/twist (30 sec between sets)
    25# x 3 x 16

    Two arm rope reverse grip curls
    27.5# x 3 x 12

  7. Another good workout! As far as your question, I always dose both vector and follidrone the Same on both lift days and off days.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    Another good workout! As far as your question, I always dose both vector and follidrone the Same on both lift days and off days.
    Good to know! Thanks nick!

  9. July 12, 2018

    After two days off from lifting weights, I was hopeful today would be one with progression in volume. No such luck!

    The mind/muscle connection wasn’t there today. When mind/muscle is there, all I have to do is look at the weights and it seems like they lift themselves. I’ve had a touch of allergies lately and that may be responsible for the lack of mind/muscle connection. 🤧 Everything seemed a little foggy. Nevertheless, it was a solid workout. The deadlift felt the best of all my lifts even though my form sucked on the first set. Too much back and not enough legs.

    Will continue to isolate my triceps long-head given the visible size increase over the last couple of weeks.

    Weight = 195lbs.

    8:30am
    4 eggs over easy. 2 pieces bacon. Quest protein bar. Vitamins and natty test boosters. 636 calories. 16% carbs, 48% fats; 36% protein.

    12:15pm
    Controlled Labs White Rapids Pre-workout powder with 20oz water; 2 scoops. Muscletech Hyperbuild aminos w/creatine, 1 scoop.

    1 cup blueberries.
    Chocolate
    175 calories
    30g carbs, 9g fat, 2g protein.

    3 capsules Vector
    2 capsules Follidrone

    12:30pm:
    SteelFit Intraworkout BCAA powder with 20oz water; 1 scoop.

    12:30pm - 1:40pm:
    50# “Band work” warmup
    Punch twists - targeting obliques and arm/shoulders.
    4 x 12

    DB hammer grip twist bench press (4 min. rest between sets)
    60# x 2 x 8
    65# x 1 x 8 (good mind/muscle on this set!)

    DB triceps kickbacks - left arm and right arm (30 sec rest between sets)
    25# x 1 x 10
    22.5# x 2 x 10

    DB skull crushers - two arms in tandem (60 sec rest between sets)-to failure on 3rd set.
    17.5# x 3 x 10

    Olympic bar deadlifts (4 min. rest between sets)
    155# x 3 x 10

    Full range one arm overhead cable rope tricep extensions (30 sec rest between sets)-to failure on 3rd set, tricep long heads were screaming on the 10th rep!
    12.5# x 3 x 10

    Seated Hammer crunches w 50lbs resistance
    50# x 1 x 20

  10. July 13,2018

    Today was a phenomenal day!

    Slept 6 hours. Had the best workout since coming off of the Keto diet two weeks ago. Even got some goblet squats in! Mind/muscle connection was there. Higher weights and more reps per set than the last time out for biceps/lats/squat day. That’s how it’s supposed to be!

    Still not sure what’s going on with Vector/ Follidrone. It’s only been two weeks. My muscles are visually larger. But they were pretty flat coming off 7 weeks of low calorie (~1000-1200 per day). keto diet. If workouts like today continue (increased strength, reps), that would be something to talk about!

    Have a great weekend everyone! See you back here tomorrow!


    8:30am
    Kelloggs cinnamon crunch high protein cereal. 1 cup blueberries. 6oz raspberries. Vitamins and natty test boosters. 470 calories. 20% carbs; 50% fat; 30% protein.

    11:45am
    Pre-workout: Controlled Labs White Rapids powder with 20oz water, 1 scoop; HyperBuild EEAs w/ 4g creatine, 1 scoop

    3 capsules Vector
    2 capsules Follidrone

    Mini Chocolate candy bar
    400 calories, 45% carbs; 25% fat; 30% protein.

    12Noon: Controlled Labs Purple Wrath Intraworkout powder with 20oz water, 2 scoops.

    No cardio

    HIIT resistance circuit
    12:00Noon-1:10pm

    50# “Band work” warmup
    Punch twists - targeting obliques and arm/shoulders.
    4 x 20

    50# “Band work” warmup
    Reverse curls - targeting biceps brachialis and emphasizing slow eccentric movement.
    1 x 20

    Close grip lat pull down cable machine (30 sec between sets)
    80# 4 x 10

    EZ bar inside grip curl (60 sec between sets)
    80# x 1 x 4
    70# x 3 x 8

    Dumbbell one arm rows (60 sec between sets)
    52.5# x 3 x 12

    DB alternating arm curls w/ 2 second hard flex at top of contraction (30 sec between sets)
    25# x 3 x 20

    Low row plate machine - targeting lower lats (30 sec between sets)
    140# resistance 4 x 8

    Goblet squat (60 sec between sets)
    55# x 1 x 12
    60# x 1 x 12
    65# x 1 x 12

    Inside grip reverse curls on cable machine (30 sec between sets)
    27.5 # x 4 x 12

    Curls on cable machine w/ 2 second hard flex at top of contraction
    37.5 # x 1 x 20
  11. Newbie Posts First Log—Vector and Follidrone 2.0


    Felt like Superman today and pushed harder, especially on my dumbbell bench press and deadlift.

    Did 3 sets of 65lbs on each arm with the DB bench press. Was able to get 8 reps on the first two sets, but failed on the 8th rep of the third set.

    Learned that my grip is very weak on the deadlift at higher weight (175lbs vs. 155lbs earlier this week).

    I’ve got a grip master for my hands. Guess I need to use it every day to get the grip I need for higher deadlift weight.

    My muscles are getting harder and fuller. Things are going well with Vector/Follidrone!

    Below is my 75 min. HIIT workout.

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  12. Yesterday’s volume crashed me. Sore all over. Energy level down all day. But I rallied in the evening and had a solid workout!

    I believe the Vector/Follidrone effect is increasing my strength and muscle size. It’s marginal, but seems real compared to my prior weight lifting cycles. I’m looking forward to the next two weeks of this cycle!

    Here’s my evening workout.

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  13. Damn dude I’m not surprised yesterday’s workout got you sore! Kicking butt in here sir.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    Damn dude I’m not surprised yesterday’s workout got you sore! Kicking butt in here sir.
    Thank you, Nick!

    I do all my workouts in 60-75 minutes. HIITing it to get through the routine. And I have only had 3 rest days in the past 15. Sometimes I forget that I’m 61 years old and need a little rest. Today is a rest day.

    Best of all, I’m starting to see unprecedented muscle growth over the past few days. If this continues, I’ll be touting the Vector/Follidrone stack! I’m looking forward to getting back in the gym tomorrow!

    Again, thanks!
  15. Newbie Posts First Log—Vector and Follidrone 2.0


    July 17, 2018

    Today was a maintenance workout, with no heavy and low rep lifts. 60 minute HIIT circuit. Weighed in at 198 lbs this AM.

    Somehow, I’ve developed tendinitis in my shoulders despite avoiding lifts that put undue stress on them. The good news is that when I feel pain in my shoulders during my workout, I know my form is off.

    I’m liking the Vector/Follidrone stack. More muscle, more strength, more confidence.

    Worked the legs today with some leg presses and hamstring curls. My right hammy is finally healed enough to work it. Pulled it sprinting 50 yd dashes four weeks ago (beat my trainer!)

    What used to heal in a week when I was in my 20s now takes a month in my 60s.

    As my grandma used to say, “Growing old isn’t for sissies.”

    Everyone have a great day!

    Here is my workout today.

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  16. Subbed - in for knowledge gains!

  17. After a couple days of rest, I was looking forward to getting back to the gym! Worked out late tonight after work. Got to the gym at 7:30pm. I wasn’t feeling the pump after taking a pre-workout with 9g of citrulline and other stims half an hour before the workout. It took the deadlift to finally feel a pump.

    I’m frustrated that it’s taking so long to get some real size increases after isolating the long head of my triceps for the past three weeks. Don’t get me wrong, there is some noticeable size increase. Just seems to take a long time to grow that muscle compared to my lateral head, I guess.

    Bottom line is it felt good to get back to the gym. It always raises my spirits!

    Did a circuit HIIT for 70 minutes. Weighed in at 199 this AM.

    Life is busy, but good!

    Here’s my workout:

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  18. Awesome dedication!
    Life is fair it's your expectations that aren't.

  19. Today was a great workout on the back, biceps, and legs...with a little tricep work thrown in for gains.

    Yesterday was a rest day. I think I’ve been overtraining for the first couple weeks so I’m adding additional rest days this week. Three to be exact. My problem is I enjoy spending some time in the gym every day. I feel like I’m 20 years old again when in the gym.

    Thinking I’ll throw in some cardio this week, dial back the calories, and try to drop a couple lbs.

    But tomorrow is my bench, triceps, and deadlift day!

    Be safe and get strong out there!

    Here is today’s workout. The leg work pumped up the volume big time. But it felt great!

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  20. Newbie Posts First Log—Vector and Follidrone 2.0


    Today was less volume than most workouts. It felt right given yesterday’s heavy volume.

    Weight =200 lbs.
    Sleep = 7 hours.

    I’m changing up my long head triceps exercises from dumbbell bench press and Kickbacks to Smith Machine bench press and Power bomb (seated behind the head tricep extensions with a dumbbell). Obviously, I need more variety, hitting the long head from different angles to increase growth/strength. So far, so good! I felt the burn on the long head more today than I have the past few weeks!

    I’m also reducing my calories beginning today, mostly carbs. Will be going from a surplus of about 200-400 per day to a mild deficit of 200-400 calories below maintenance. Maintenance is about 2400-2600 on workout days and 2100-2300 on non-workout days. Hoping to lean up a bit by my next formal weigh-in on Friday. Got to stay below 15% body fat!

    I had lost some muscle (~3 lbs.) during the 7 week keto in May and June. With the Vector/Follidrone boost in July, I’m expecting to have gained 4-6 lbs muscle this month. If true, that’s impressive! Normally, my muscle gains have been at max 2 lbs per month.

    Here’s today’s workout:

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  21. Newbie Posts First Log—Vector and Follidrone 2.0


    I was going to take today off. But I was pumped to lift after work so I drifted off to the gym.

    The great news is that my OL Re1gn and Massacr3 package arrived (thank you Strong Supplements weekend sale) so I threw a scoop of Re1gn and added 5g of citrulline for a total of 7.5g. I was pumped even more by the time I got to the gym! Lately, I haven’t been feeling the pump from citrulline so I’m upping the dose. I’m thinking the sweaty pump tonight was the Vaso6 in Re1gn. I also got some capsules of Vaso6 tonight. Looking forward to experimenting with Vaso!

    Had some wild dreams last night, I’m thinking it was the Vector effect again.

    The crazy thing is during the dream I was telling myself, here we go with the Vector hallucinations again! It was incredible to be in deep sleep and having an “awake” awareness. I haven’t remembered any dreams since the second night of using Vector. Slept for about 6 hours and felt refreshed all day.

    I’ve can see a lot of muscle strength and size progress since starting the Vector/Follidrone (VF ) stack. My thinking is that most of my gains are due to solid diet, sleep, and regular exercise. But I believe the VF stack has made a difference. I’m guessing 20-25% of my gains are due to VF based on past progress without the stack. I still have a week to go on this log and this Friday is my body composition weigh-in. I’m looking forward to seeing the data.

    Here is today’s workout:

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  22. Excited to see the body comp results! Seems like he stack has been helping out for sure! Coupled with your hard work, it’s quite the combo!
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    Excited to see the body comp results! Seems like he stack has been helping out for sure! Coupled with your hard work, it’s quite the combo!
    Thanks, @nicksox15 ! I always look forward to the monthly body composition weigh-ins!

    If the metrics match my visual assessment, the “psychic income” is very gratifying, making all the hard work and investment in natty supps worth it!

    Again, thanks!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Humble View Post
    Thanks, @nicksox15 ! I always look forward to the monthly body composition weigh-ins!

    If the metrics match my visual assessment, the “psychic income” is very gratifying, making all the hard work and investment in natty supps worth it!

    Again, thanks!
    In for the nudez pics!
    Life is fair it's your expectations that aren't.

  25. Thursday July 26

    Another great workout!

    Today’s workout was less intense than most, but more of a “quiet riot “ of determination to increase weight and try new things to see if I can boost strength and muscle growth.

    The best part of the workout were hitting 165 lbs. 4 x 8 on the deadlift! My goal is to deadlift 200 lbs. with ease by the end of the year.

    I’m finally able to do some shoulder work after strengthening the tendons and ligaments and loosening up an osteocyte in the right shoulder. I’ve been working on those problems for 18 months! Steady “safe strength” wins the race! Time to get serious on building up the shoulder muscles!

    Still looking forward to tomorrow’s body composition weigh-in!

    Stay strong, AM brothers and sisters!

    Here is tonight’s workout:

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