Thanks to Vein Nutrition on their reps for allowing me to try out their Veinquish product. I started taking first doses this Monday. But will start the log port of exercises this coming Monday due to finishing up softball league and huge state softball tourney this weekend. So far I've dosed 2 caps in morning with breakfast and then 2 more at night. Looking forward into shredding some lbs with out feeling hyped up all the time.