Alpha uses Bloodshot's 120mgs of DMAA

[Alpha1a]

What's up ladies and gents! You guys all know me you know I love my dmaa no need for intros lets get right to it. Luckily I was picked by Vein Nutrition and it's kick ass reps to use this preworkout and log it ! I will be trying to give a very very detailed review at the end and my first impression here. Simple first impression - Kick ASS. I will be honest and say I was extremely skeptical as I am with most preworkouts that have dmaa as I often get better results from my 25mg dmaa caps then pres that claim to have 75 so I was waiting for one of two things to happen , my heart jump out my chest or nothing and I wasted a workout . Very very luckily it was very far from a wasted workout and for me (someone who heavily uses stims) this was a very controllable "cracked out" feeling , but I mean that in the best way possible honestly I loved t . I had tons of energy and at the same time a giant amount of focus I didn't want to be bothered I was completely in my zone the whole time . The flavor I did expect more from , idk why but the label made me think great flavor something I'd be able to drink on the regular but probably for the best I didn't love it , not saying it was bad at all I give it a strong 7/10 , very drinkable not too sweet far from nasty but at the same time not my cup of tea , I'm better off chugging it in a small amount of water.
The workout (currently on a PHAT program)
Rows 6 sets of 3 reps at 70% of 3-5 rep max
245 245 245 245 315 225 (got bored with the light weight)
Rows with chest on bench 3x8-12
90x 12 12 12
Pulldowns 3x8-12
210x12 225x10 225x10
Low cable rows 2x12-15
210x15 15
Reverse grip rows 2x20
65
Barbell seated shoulder press 3x8-12 (first time doing shoulders in 3 weeks)
135x12 135x12 185x10
Reverse fly 2x12-5
50x15 15
Seated Db lateral raise 2x20
30x20 25x15 15
Little cardio and got the hell out . Kick ass day .
Don't do what I do but I will be trying this with atleast 12.5mgs of ephedrine (1 primatene)

 

[SFreed]

I'm in! Curious about the dose of dmaa, as a fellow stim whore

 

[justhere4comm]

Really great start!
VeinNutrition Marms blueline438 smith_69

 

[LeanEngineer]

In on this as well!

 

[Marms]

IN

 

[elo76]

In!

 

[Mowglisml]

I'm here for the nudez

 

[blueline438]

In man. Them rows are beastly dude! I'm pretty sure I'm on the same phat program you are. I've modified it a bit for my goals.

Not sure what flavor you got but I've gotten mixed reviews myself. I love the summer popsicle and the blackberry lemonade is meh. My buddy at the gym loves the blackberry lemonade. Said it's amazing and the summer popsicle is meh. Lol.

I also agree about the energy man. I was worried it was gonna too strong or to cracked out. But it was amazing. Great dose of quick energy and long lasting in my opinion.

Can't wait for the rest of your lifts.

 

[FireTitan]

In to learn how real men do this

 

[Alpha1a]

Alright gents ! Chest day yesterday , my left pec got fucced 3 weeks ago when putting up 365 hit it clean as hell my partner even asked why I didn't go for two but I felt some sh1t snap, so jus now getting back to benchig so numbers will be a little lower then usual but still a great workout
Bench 6 sets of 3 reps
245 245 245 245 275 245
Incline 3x8-12
195x12 215x10 235x8
Db flat 3x12-15
90x12 90x12 70x15
Cable fly 2x20
40 40
Hit some arms and got a great workout , on my way now to kill some quads

 

[Alpha1a]

post quads selfie

 

[FireTitan]

View attachment 147849 post quads selfie

Whos this jacked sumb1tch you took a picture of?

 

[blueline438]

Well I know whose physique I'm chasing now.

 

[Mowglisml]

Faken Jacked Nicholson!

 

[Alpha1a]

Yesterday was arms gents ! Had to run to get some grub before they closed so no nudes but how bout some food porn

struggling to gain weight is a b1tch so adding a lot more red meat to my diet . Gym in a few , will throw up the workout. Still undecided as to hamstrings with a lot of deads or upper body will decide a some point lol

 

[Alpha1a]

Alright today was upper body (p.s. Warm ups are about 3-4 sets adding weight till I get to what I record I don't take down warmup sets)
Barbell rows 3-5
315x5 325x4 335x3
Weighted pull ups
30lb db 2x8
Tbar rows 2x8-10
4plates x 8 5platesx 10 realized both were way too light but just kept moving
Incline bench 3-5
275x5 245x5 225x5 went easy cuz my chest is still messed up
Dips
3x8
Shoulder press 3x6-8 didn't track weight
Lat raise/shrug superset
30x8/315x8 30x10/315x10 30x10/315x10

Had to rush out cuz sushi calls lol

 

[blueline438]

Dude I feel you on gaining weight. I'm even eating junk and still struggling. Lol. Beastly rows brah!

 

[DUbz86]

Yeah man loved the sample of bloodshot but being nice and letting my buddy have the other sample. I couldn't believe I took it around 5:30-6:00 am and energy lasted we'll have lunch no crash.

 

[Alpha1a]

this plus shoulder and back day =

****ty pic of the back but in the last year I've made a lot of progress as it was always my weak point and got a kick ass pump tonight. Had 3500 calories previous to the workout yet feel depleted cuz I went hard as fucc so I felt depleted after , here's dinner

plus a Gatorade so I'll have a protein shake in a few as well

 

[blueline438]

Trap city son! Dang. I've been doing the bloodshot/aorta combo too. Holy lift forever no fatigue.

 

[Alpha1a]

chest and arms ... Nuff said

Still healing
Incline bar
195x3 195x3 225x3 225x3 235x3 255x3
Flat bar
225x12 275x8 225x8
Db incline (with a band)
70x15 70x12 70x12
Inc bench cable fly
50x15 50x15 50x15 40x15+3 drops
Little bit of dips and moved on to arms

 

[Br1ck_Sh1thouse]

Dude I feel you on gaining weight. I'm even eating junk and still struggling. Lol. Beastly rows brah!

You guys fighting suck! Just thinking about gaining weight is making me gain weight!

 

[Alpha1a]

FireTitan cuz apparently you need personal invites lol

 

[DUbz86]

Nice progress brother looking huge!!

 

[Tank999]

Ok. Decided to checkout how the jacked skinny folk do it.....in for the ride

 

[Alpha1a]

Great workout today , full body last day of PHAT going to 5x5

Rows
315x3 315x3 315x3
Weighted pull-ups 45lb
8 6
Very close grip rows (trying something new)
185x8 185x8
Bench
315x5 315x5 315x5 felt real good getting under it and hitting it so easily
https://instagram.com/p/BTaVHhuF45L/ video
Dips
8 8
Low pulley crossover
40x10 40x10 (slow)
Shoulder press
Bar curls
90x8 90x8 90x8
Didn't do triceps cuz my elbow was actin up.
Rest is planned for tomorrow and Saturday but I hate to rest lol

 

[Mowglisml]

Good sh*t!

 

[Alpha1a]

Apparently been double scooping the **** out of this lol. Oh well as you guys know me the more the better ! Will continue using the big scooper as it hits just right for me and I have no complaints and don't feel over stimmed. That being said , and this is mostly to be fair and honest , no chance in hell do I believe I've been taking 240mgs of Dmaa or 120 mgs of just 1,3 no way, I would believ 60mgs for sure in the full size "double" scooper I am comparing to the caps I get that I'm certain are just 25mgs 1,3 Dmaa. I've been using those for years on and off I know what's in them for sure, and I've played around with dosing up to 4 caps (100mgs) I've used 1-3 caps with other stimmed pres I've made my own pre workouts with them I am certain I can give an educated opinion and I do not believe by a long shot in that scooper there is 120 mgs of 1,3 and 240 mgs of mixed Dmaa . Just keeping my opinion honest and fair . But all in all I do love the pre workout

 

[Mowglisml]

Apparently been double scooping the **** out of this lol. Oh well as you guys know me the more the better ! Will continue using the big scooper as it hits just right for me and I have no complaints and don't feel over stimmed. That being said , and this is mostly to be fair and honest , no chance in hell do I believe I've been taking 240mgs of Dmaa or 120 mgs of just 1,3 no way, I would believ 60mgs for sure in the full size "double" scooper I am comparing to the caps I get that I'm certain are just 25mgs 1,3 Dmaa. I've been using those for years on and off I know what's in them for sure, and I've played around with dosing up to 4 caps (100mgs) I've used 1-3 caps with other stimmed pres I've made my own pre workouts with them I am certain I can give an educated opinion and I do not believe by a long shot in that scooper there is 120 mgs of 1,3 and 240 mgs of mixed Dmaa . Just keeping my opinion honest and fair . But all in all I do love the pre workout

What the hell! Apparently, have been double scooping as well. But something is off because I doubt I am taking 400mg of caffeine or dosing so much dmaa. It doesn't feel like it.

 

[VeinNutrition]

Apparently been double scooping the **** out of this lol. Oh well as you guys know me the more the better ! Will continue using the big scooper as it hits just right for me and I have no complaints and don't feel over stimmed. That being said , and this is mostly to be fair and honest , no chance in hell do I believe I've been taking 240mgs of Dmaa or 120 mgs of just 1,3 no way, I would believ 60mgs for sure in the full size "double" scooper I am comparing to the caps I get that I'm certain are just 25mgs 1,3 Dmaa. I've been using those for years on and off I know what's in them for sure, and I've played around with dosing up to 4 caps (100mgs) I've used 1-3 caps with other stimmed pres I've made my own pre workouts with them I am certain I can give an educated opinion and I do not believe by a long shot in that scooper there is 120 mgs of 1,3 and 240 mgs of mixed Dmaa . Just keeping my opinion honest and fair . But all in all I do love the pre workout

What the hell! Apparently, have been double scooping as well. But something is off because I doubt I am taking 400mg of caffeine or dosing so much dmaa. It doesn't feel like it.

Thanks for your feedback! I just want to foreword this comment by saying that I am in no way discrediting your personal experiences or beliefs, just wanted to offer some other points to consider.

One of my reps actually brought up the idea of "hey, what if they actually mis-dosed it so that 1 scoop actually equals 1 serving that that it was 120mg/scoop they just did the dosing wrong?" This is very unlikely because we have 6.78g of active ingredient per serving, this would mean that if the manufacture did mess up like that they would have to put about 9.22g of inactive fillers in each scoop. If that's a little tough to follow, I can elaborate more. But adding 9.22g of filler per scoop would mean over 50% of the product is filler, which would have been easily tough in their spec sheet when doing the mixing, even after the fact.

Another point is that you have to consider that most legal ingredients have diminishing returns aka the dose respond is not directly proportional to dose and more of a "logarithmic" nature. This means if you take ingredient A and you feel B, then if you take 2x the amount of A you don't feel twice as B, if you take 4x the amount of A you won't necessarily feel 4x as B. Such an ingredient would actually be incredibly dangerous for abuse. Because of this going from 10mg DMAA to 130mg DMAA would more likely feel significant than going from 120mg DMAA to 240mg DMAA, even though both are increased by 120mg DMAA, the latter you're starting to reach that diminishing returns.

We've also seen responses and feedback all over the place after posting this press release. We're on a few other forums and people have ranged from saying they've taken it at 6pm and slept fine at night all the way to saying they were extremely jacked up and had really hard time sleeping. We've had people say "wow no wonder I feel like X, it's because it's a double serving!" to "it doesn't feel like a double serving of X" This is a testimony to the idea that I believe that different people have different body compositions and will react different to the same formulation.

Finally, another thing to keep in mind is that the higher dose of Noopept could be increasing your mental focus, fighting away some of the anxiety and jittery side affects from DMAA and caffeine and the eria jarensis may induce an euphoria that counteracts some of the less desired DMAA side effects as well. But you did mention you mixed and played around with DMAA for a long time, so again I don't mean to discredit your opinion.

Just a few factors to take into consideration. But if you truly feel like you've received an under-dosed product, we'll be happy to refund you. We'd do some 3rd party testing to verify, but there's of little value because we're going to be using a different manufacturer for the reformulation of this product.

 

[Alpha1a]

Thanks for your feedback! I just want to foreword this comment by saying that I am in no way discrediting your personal experiences or beliefs, just wanted to offer some other points to consider.

One of my reps actually brought up the idea of "hey, what if they actually mis-dosed it so that 1 scoop actually equals 1 serving that that it was 120mg/scoop they just did the dosing wrong?" This is very unlikely because we have 6.78g of active ingredient per serving, this would mean that if the manufacture did mess up like that they would have to put about 9.22g of inactive fillers in each scoop. If that's a little tough to follow, I can elaborate more. But adding 9.22g of filler per scoop would mean over 50% of the product is filler, which would have been easily tough in their spec sheet when doing the mixing, even after the fact.

Another point is that you have to consider that most legal ingredients have diminishing returns aka the dose respond is not directly proportional to dose and more of a "logarithmic" nature. This means if you take ingredient A and you feel B, then if you take 2x the amount of A you don't feel twice as B, if you take 4x the amount of A you won't necessarily feel 4x as B. Such an ingredient would actually be incredibly dangerous for abuse. Because of this going from 10mg DMAA to 130mg DMAA would more likely feel significant than going from 120mg DMAA to 240mg DMAA, even though both are increased by 120mg DMAA, the latter you're starting to reach that diminishing returns.

We've also seen responses and feedback all over the place after posting this press release. We're on a few other forums and people have ranged from saying they've taken it at 6pm and slept fine at night all the way to saying they were extremely jacked up and had really hard time sleeping. We've had people say "wow no wonder I feel like X, it's because it's a double serving!" to "it doesn't feel like a double serving of X" This is a testimony to the idea that I believe that different people have different body compositions and will react different to the same formulation.

Finally, another thing to keep in mind is that the higher dose of Noopept could be increasing your mental focus, fighting away some of the anxiety and jittery side affects from DMAA and caffeine and the eria jarensis may induce an euphoria that counteracts some of the less desired DMAA side effects as well. But you did mention you mixed and played around with DMAA for a long time, so again I don't mean to discredit your opinion.

Just a few factors to take into consideration. But if you truly feel like you've received an under-dosed product, we'll be happy to refund you. We'd do some 3rd party testing to verify, but there's of little value because we're going to be using a different manufacturer for the reformulation of this product.

Thanks for responding! I've nothing but enjoyed the hell out of bloodshot and will be purchasing more. What I'll do is give it a go at half a scoop and see how I do feel it. As far as the sleeping goes I've been taking it around 7:00pm and I have slept just fine even as early as 10:00pm, but I've always just thought I'm lucky as no pre workout messes with my sleep really lol.

 

[JAMES1980]

View attachment 148038 this plus shoulder and back day = View attachment 148039View attachment 148040 ****ty pic of the back but in the last year I've made a lot of progress as it was always my weak point and got a kick ass pump tonight. Had 3500 calories previous to the workout yet feel depleted cuz I went hard as fucc so I felt depleted after , here's dinner View attachment 148041 plus a Gatorade so I'll have a protein shake in a few as well

Massive !

 

[Brandinooooo]

View attachment 147849 post quads selfie

DAMN bro! You've gotten even bigger since the last pics I saw! Good fccking work dude.

 

[Mowglisml]

Yo alpha have you tried the 1/2 scoop (1 normal proper serving) since the news?

 

[Alpha1a]

Not yet , took a couple days off Dmaa and a rest day , did hit chest today but on another pwo. Tomorrow I'll half scoop for back day

 

[Brandinooooo]

Not yet , took a couple days off Dmaa and a rest day , did hit chest today but on another pwo. Tomorrow I'll half scoop for back day

Pffff....I thought you were a stim junkie.....

 

[Mowglisml]

Not yet , took a couple days off Dmaa and a rest day , did hit chest today but on another pwo. Tomorrow I'll half scoop for back day

Awesome. Let us know how it is. I haven't used since saturday... just mental withdrawals haha

 

[Alpha1a]

Ok guys hit half a scoop and shoulders, definitely still enjoy it not a cracked out feeling I usually chase but definitely more suitable for the average bear . Also something I wouldn't Mind taking with some primatene (or bronkaid) not that I recommend it but for me , someone who likes feeling on the edge of death , it definitely definitely still stands a great preworkout

 

[Mowglisml]

Ok guys hit half a scoop and shoulders, definitely still enjoy it not a cracked out feeling I usually chase but definitely more suitable for the average bear . Also something I wouldn't Mind taking with some primatene (or bronkaid) not that I recommend it but for me , someone who likes feeling on the edge of death , it definitely definitely still stands a great preworkout

Hell yea! I'm excited for tomorrow now cuz we have both been getting similar feels with it and i know for damn sure u are one the high tolerant side so this is all good news for me. What sucks now is that it is sold out

 

[Alpha1a]

Alright guys sorry it took me a while to get back on here . What happened was I was feeling a little "low to the ground and kicked" for a couple days , just been going through hell at work and home so when I used half a scoop and didn't get much I didn't wanna say anything cuz i knew more then likely its just my personal tiredness , again same thing didn't feel much at all , another day used a full scoop again and still felt like crap so I knew it was me took a day off work yesterday and back at it today , used half a scoop and BOOM ! Back to feeling pretty damn great . The half scoop is definitely a notch down from the full but still got an amazing focus , a killer pump and definitely a good amount of Dmaa still so still gunna give this 5 stars .

 

[VeinNutrition]

Alright guys sorry it took me a while to get back on here . What happened was I was feeling a little "low to the ground and kicked" for a couple days , just been going through hell at work and home so when I used half a scoop and didn't get much the first time I didn't wanna say anything cuz i knew more then likely its just my personal tiredness , second time same thing didn't feel much at all , third day used a full scoop again and still felt like crap so I knew it was me took a day off work yesterday and back at it today , used half a scoop and BOOM ! Back to feeling pretty damn great . The half scoop is definitely a notch down from the full but still got an amazing focus , a killer pump and definitely a good amount of Dmaa still so still gunna give this 5 stars .

Hope things start to get better for you brother. Gotta make them life gains along with the gym gains. We appreciate your continued commitment to this log. People will look back at this as the log for the OG Blood Shot ?

 

[Alpha1a]

Hope things start to get better for you brother. Gotta make them life gains along with the gym gains. We appreciate your continued commitment to this log. People will look back at this as the log for the OG Blood Shot

Hah man I love it for real , sad to see it go but gotta do what's best for the company, will still leave a og review up and when I order and try the new version will get a review up for you guys there as well

 

[VeinNutrition]

Hah man I love it for real , sad to see it go but gotta do what's best for the company, will still leave a og review up and when I order and try the new version will get a review up for you guys there as well

Yeah we're not happy about it either, unfortunately can't figure big government and big pharma

Best we can do is to be flexible and adapt!

 

[Alpha1a]

Rested yesterday and had an amazing workout today with only half a scoop
Chest
Bench
315x6 315x5 315x5 315x5+185x8
Inc db
90x8 90x8 90x8+50x12
Pec dec 3x8
Low cable fly 3x8
Triceps , the pump was real out there ?

 

[Alpha1a]

Down to the last 2-3 half scoops. Loving this pre so much . Today was a hot day outside and it was my day off but was running around from one place to the next all day and that heat was kicking my ass , plus it rained at one point so for those who know SFL weather , the rain makes it so much worse . By the time I got home to get ready for the gym I had a pounding headache and was exhausted mentally and physically , said fucc it I'm gunna go and get it in anyways. But didn't want to waste a full (double) scoop so I used the aorta scoop (not sure if I mentioned it but the serving sizes are about the same so the aorta scooper would be more accurate). Got in the gym started repping out 275 for close grip press and it in the zone, next thing I know , I have an amazing pump and even thou the routine is the same as last week for arms, I'm fuccing killing it and loving it . Felt great today, way better then I thought I would .