I've been fairly busy lately with no time to log any of the stuff I take but I finally have more free time on my hands. After trying Mass Pro Synthagen with success (standalone), I've become more interested in Ecdysterone/Laxogenin products in general. I would have never even bought IFN Most Wanted if the prices weren't a steal, so here I am with 4 bottles of it. I feel the need to log this because I think people want a standalone log of this kind of stuff that isn't sponsored and honestly, I feel that after using MPS, this stuff is best treated like an adaptogen rather than an anabolic. Anyways, here's what I'll be running:
OL Conqu3r Unleashed
SNS Noopept-XT (10mg)
Prime Nutrition Intra-MD
Vitamin D3 5000IU
ZMA
IFN Most Wanted (double dosed at 4 caps a day)
I've been running OL CU for 1 month, and Intra-MD for a few months now so I am well aware of how they effect my workouts, etc. Vitamin D and ZMA are just staples for me.
I generally workout fasted (unless you count the intra carbs) and my diet is consistent. I'll be eating at maintenance (~2900 calories) for the run to see how effective it is. I eat a very consistent diet of mostly protein shakes, chicken, broccoli, and white rice. I tend not to deviate from this because I'm a pretty hungry person and eating junk food causes insane cravings. I'm mostly expecting better recovery, as I think the supplement will be "anabolic" in the sense that it will allow me to train more. Expecting body composition changes (at a quicker rate than my normal recomp would be without it) and possible muscle fullness. To keep track of body comp, I'll mostly be eyeing it, but I will also monitor my weight/waist ratio. 1 cap of MW provides:
100mg Ecdysterone (not including the cyclodextrin complex)
50mg Laxogenin (not including the cyclodextrin complex)
Mostly interested in trying to see if the product is legit (sourcing, etc)
Mixelflick
Danes
IFN15
kboxer7
My training cycle will be focused on high frequency, compound lifts, training at least 6 days a week. Google Jim Wender's Frequency project (5/3/1 with high frequency essentially).
EDIT:
OL Conqu3r Unleashed
SNS Noopept-XT (10mg)
Prime Nutrition Intra-MD
Vitamin D3 5000IU
ZMA
IFN Most Wanted (double dosed at 4 caps a day)
I've been running OL CU for 1 month, and Intra-MD for a few months now so I am well aware of how they effect my workouts, etc. Vitamin D and ZMA are just staples for me.
I generally workout fasted (unless you count the intra carbs) and my diet is consistent. I'll be eating at maintenance (~2900 calories) for the run to see how effective it is. I eat a very consistent diet of mostly protein shakes, chicken, broccoli, and white rice. I tend not to deviate from this because I'm a pretty hungry person and eating junk food causes insane cravings. I'm mostly expecting better recovery, as I think the supplement will be "anabolic" in the sense that it will allow me to train more. Expecting body composition changes (at a quicker rate than my normal recomp would be without it) and possible muscle fullness. To keep track of body comp, I'll mostly be eyeing it, but I will also monitor my weight/waist ratio. 1 cap of MW provides:
100mg Ecdysterone (not including the cyclodextrin complex)
50mg Laxogenin (not including the cyclodextrin complex)
Mostly interested in trying to see if the product is legit (sourcing, etc)
Mixelflick
Danes
IFN15
kboxer7
My training cycle will be focused on high frequency, compound lifts, training at least 6 days a week. Google Jim Wender's Frequency project (5/3/1 with high frequency essentially).
EDIT:
Final Thoughts
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Alright. This is going to be a long post. First, I'll summarize the basic effects I've noticed.
1) Increased vascularity
2) Increased recovery (and absolutely no DOMs after Week 2-3 and on of this run)
3) Great joint health
4) Better sleep
5) Increased strength
Main Lift Training Max Increases as of Today:
Bench Press: +15
Overhead Press: +15
Deadlift: +30
Front Squat: +20
My training experience is 3+ years, and I'm intermediate. These kinds of strength increases are pretty impressive to me considering the supposed "accumulating fatigue" I was supposed to be experiencing, because I got stronger throughout the run. Not only did I get stronger, but my form at higher percentiles got better. I've done high frequency training before, so I'd like to think this has nothing to do with "strength-skill" (lack of practice, etc). I've always based my training around the main compound lifts, so these are all well practiced except the Front Squat (I have considerable experience Front Squatting, but way more doing normal Squats).
Weight: ~206 --> 209.2
Waist Circumference: 37" --> 37"
Throughout this entire run, I had to modify my calories a bit. What I thought was my maintenance really wasn't, either due to the intensity of the program or due to the supplement helping me partition nutrients better. Initially, I dropped down to around 204 lbs, then I upped the calories. Can't say for sure, but my waist in the same as it's been the entire run (within the small range of variance) and my weight is up. It could be due to glycogen retention, or whatever, but my strength went way up so I'm pleased with the results.
My shirts are tighter, and my pants are tighter as well, and my waist is the same. I'd say that's favorable body comp.
Other Stuff:
I truly believe this is best used with higher frequency and overreaching routines (like HMA-FA). I do not think this would fit bro splits at all. Yes, a supplement is supposed to supplement your current diet/training and you should not have to modify it to see results. This is why I think that if you do not do high frequency training, then don't even bother with this stuff or you'll most likely be disappointed (unless you just like muscle pumps or something). I've used ecdysterone before, and now this. These both are supposed to work in similar ways, so it's not surprising that people dislike these two when using their normal training routines.
Also, this run was NOT cost efficient. The dosage I used was double dosing the standard product that normally costs 60-70 dollars. This makes 140 dollars a month, and 280 for two months, etc. I consider this a "time efficient" supplement, meaning it'll help your strength/gains in a short amount of time if you're willing to put in the work.
My programming was a bit off. I had to cut the run short by 2 weeks because of CNS fatigue. I monitor my resting heart rate every day, and try to keep track of my body in general (sleeping patterns, etc) and by the end of this week, I feel completely burnt out. What I will probably do next time is ramp up the intensity instead of just going all out from the very beginning, and maybe even try a 12 week run. Since the product is most noticeable at 3 weeks, I guess the best time to ramp everything up is around the 3rd week mark. Still, for a 6 week run, this stuff was amazing. I'll finish the bottles up during my deload and first week of my next training block, but this is something I'd definitely account for next time.
Those are my thoughts. Sorry I couldn't finish to the 8th week, but I tried my best. Between working a full time job, commuting for 3 hours with traffic, and an overall hectic lifestyle, I tried to pull it off. Thanks for following!