Ace gets stimul8'd with finaflex

[aceroni]

Hey guys, just won the promo to log the new cherry limeade stimul8.

I'm just making the thread for now, I will start reviewing it once it comes in.

Stay tuned.


Here's my final review:

Seeing as I've used enough servings of this product I think I am safe to give a review. With the holiday coming up I won't be on here much at all so I don't want to forget to do this.

Here's the final scale, provided by the judgment day.

My flavor was cherry limeade

1)This product was easy to mix and I enjoyed the taste... 5/5

When I mixed this in a shaker there's nothing left. No excessive foam, no chunks stuck to the side, nothing.
I will say that when I used a spoon / cup, I had a tiny bit of sediment at the bottom.
Seeing as everyone has a shaker, and how well it mixes in a shaker, I still give it a 5/5

As for the taste, I was blown away. It was absolutely refreshing and I really enjoyed sipping it on the way to the gym.
So many pres these days taste terrible, and I throw the scoop dry into my mouth, and chase with water. With stimul8 I didn't like to do this, I felt cheated out of the flavor.
Easily 5/5 here

2) This product was a great source of clean energy/good mood... 5/5

The mood enhancement was the first thing I noticed with stimul8.
Driving to the gym with a huge smile on my face, loving life. As I got towards the end of the tub this was not as noticeable as originally, but still there.

The pick up on stimul8 was really smooth, never felt "rushed" or anything like that, just cool, calm, and focused. The come down was really easy as well, I noticed no crash.

3) This product helped me power through my training sessions... 5/5

I had plenty of energy to get thru all my sessions and move quickly. I felt great while training, love being at the gym.

4) This product enhanced my mental focus...5/5

Hands down where this product shines most. I had laser focus and determination. I haven't gotten that great of focus from a pre in a while.

I even used this to keep me sharp at work all night long- practically every night I had to work. Really did help, and I'd recommend it just for that, even if you didn't lift.

5) This product had great thermogenic effects...5/5

Drenched.
I'd do prehab and already be sweating profusely.
Cotton shirts = no go

6) I really enjoyed this product and would recommend it to friends and family... 5/5

Actually, a few people asked me about thermogenics, so I let them try a half scoop of stimul8... When you only use a half scoop at a time, you can afford to lend a few scoops out. So yeah, I already have recommended it, and will so again.
If that sale is still going I might end up just grabbing more of this stuff.

I must say I started with less than a half and now I use roughly a half scoop, maybe slightly more. I'm going to try 3/4 tomorrow and report back.

Rating Scale: 1 - 5 (5 being highest)

5/5 overall

Loved it. Would recommend it, will use it again.

 

[Montego1]

Yaaaay

 

[snagencyV2.0]

1st

(montego don't count)

 

[CincyKiller45]

In for da bodybuilding and stimul8ion.

 

[Sean1332]

Yo.

 

[wasme]

...1st from Canada, eh!

 

[bean5er]

First from the west coast

 

[RegisterJr]

East coast covered here.

 

[JudgementDay]

I'll PM you the rating scale, can't wait to follow all these logs

 

[aceroni]

I think it got mailed today.

I'm not going to update my training in detail here, (unless you want me to.)
Otherwise I'll continue to update it per usual in my regular training log.

I just intend to comment on the effects of the supplement here. Day by day.
I also have the final review scale posted up on my first post. I'll use that after I have completed my tub.. Or if I stick with half a scoop, at least halfway thru the tub, because at half a scoop the tub will last indefinitely.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

yeah whatever you want to do ace - if you want to stick to just the specific effects of the product that's cool..if you want to post up some training notes that's cool too..do what you want to do
some folks who may not be following your other log, may be curious as to how you train, but that's totally up to you whether you want to share

rock n roll man, ready to watch! opcorn:

 

[herderdude]

This is gonna be a good log.

Ace is good, and very thorough. (Subtle Lebowski reference intended)

 

[aceroni]

I am currently following John Meadows reactive pump program, (just like everyone else on this forum). I tend to take my time warming up but once I get rolling with my working sets my rest is usually only enough time for my training partner to hit his set.

Here's my last few training sessions, quoted from my log. The only thing that will change is that once I get stimul8 I'll use it inplace of alphamine, so that I can better gauge it's thermogenic and leaning effects.

Trained arms yesterday

Rope push down ss seated db curl
12 // 8

Constant tension, used split straps for a pronated grip // slow negative and hard flex

BB curl ss overhead rope extension
8 // 10+5 partials

Constant tension

Cg pushup ss reverse curl
15 // 15

Pause with body on floor, explode up // curl up to just past 90°

Four rounds of each super set, as usual

Eight sets of eight stand calf ss dorsiflexion

Hanging leg raise 4x15

already a bit leaner from the two added cardio sessions, Idk if I commented on that.

Suppdate:
Using alphamine on off /low carb days, so about three times weekly.

Everything else is the same, only sups are Karbolyn (soon to be glycofuse), amino iv, and various pres

05/05/14 Legs

Super D set the hips
Foam roll everything
monster walk

Lying leg curls
12, 10, 8, 6

RDL
135x10
165x10
205x10
250x10
275x8
295x6
325x6

Used 45# plates working more of the top half of the range of motion. Focused on being explosive. I have a vid from the top set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xSkx3Eo1I&feature=youtu.be

After looking at it I think i could have sat back a tiny bit more. My head looks a little cranked, i think that's from the hoody, but that shouldn't be so bad either.
Anything else guys?

Narrow stance leg press super set with leg extensions
6px20 // 15
6p+25 x 15// 15
7p+25 x 10 // 15
8p x 8 // 15

the letter P represents the number of 45lb plates per side.
Focusing on slow eccentric, controlled concentric up to 3/4 lockout. Constant tension
The extensions were focused on the bottom half of the movement. Deep stretch, explode up to 3/4 lockout, slow negative.

Leg press ss leg extension
6p x 4 x 10 // 15

with thirty second quad stretches.
The leg press was done wide frog stance. bringing down to the safety pins, pausing on the pins, and exploding off of them.
Leg extensions were done with the top half of the movement, focusing on flexing the quads.

These 8 sets blew my quads up. It was painful.

Lunge
30# kb per arm x 10 steps per leg x 3 sets

Did these one leg at a time.

05/06/14 chest / delts

Super d set the humerus
elite fst band pullapart shoulder series
band over and backs
band overhead lat stretch
rumble roll medial delt, rear delt, triceps, lats, pecs

One arm supinating cable row
3x15

This wasn't anything hard, nor was it prescribed by John. I just wanted a pump in my lats before i pressed. It helps my irritated shoulders.

DB flat press
30x2x20
55x8
65x8
75x8
85x8
95x8,11, 10

Constant tension. Worked up to a hard eight then did AMRAP for two more sets.

Incline BB press
barx6
135x6
165x6
185x6
195x6
205x6

1" off chest to 3/4 lockout.
These were hard after the DB presses.

BB chain bench
Bar x 5
" +1c x 5
" +2c x 5
135 +2c x 5
115 +2c x 4 sets x 5 reps

The 135 wasn't as fast as I wanted it to be. So I bumped it down to get faster reps.
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvBOirhHeEc&feature=youtu.be
I need to rig the chains a little better, but oh well. Critique?
I've been struggling with being consistent in my setup.

stretch pushups
BW x 15
" + 1 chain x 2 x 15

with 30second pec stretch

DB rear delt fly
25x4x15

DB lateral raise
20x4x12

Cage press
bar x 5
95 x 5
105 x 5
115 x 3 x 5

As you can see I tend to use a ton of feeder sets for my pressing. I've had a minor pec tear before and I like to make sure everything feels "right" before going up quickly.

Light conditioning today

Started with super D day after squats.

standing calves 8x8

Prowler:
Low handle 15 yards there and 15 yards back high handle x2

Low handle 10 there high 10 back x 7
Low handle 10 yards
High handle 30 yards

High incline fast walk on treadmill for ten minutes

Didn't put any weight on the prowler. It has rubber pads on the bottom of the skis, and I'm pushing it over turf with a ton of rubber chunks in it. that plus no grip wrestling shoes makes it a bitch.

if it's warmer out I'll use the regular prowler on the concrete with roughly 150lbs on it.

 

[JudgementDay]

I am currently following John Meadows reactive pump program, (just like everyone else on this forum). I tend to take my time warming up but once I get rolling with my working sets my rest is usually only enough time for my training partner to hit his set.

Here's my last few training sessions, quoted from my log. The only thing that will change is that once I get stimul8 I'll use it inplace of alphamine, so that I can better gauge it's thermogenic and leaning effects.

Putting the work in for sure! Nice workouts.

 

[aceroni]

Putting the work in for sure! Nice workouts.

Thanks. I really enjoy Johns programming.

Going to probably roll right into another one after this one is over.
Here's todays, with training and diet updates :

Back today

Wide grip pullups
Bw x12,12

Shoulder width pullups
Bw x9,10

Close neutral grip pullups
Bw x8, 8+4 assisted

The focus here was to keep my sternum arched and only come 4/5 of the way down, keeping tension on the lats they felt great.

DB dead stop rows
90x8
100x4 sets x 8 reps

DB pullover (Meadows style)
55x3x12

DB shrugs
95x3x10

Two or three second contraction at top

Banded hyper extension
31,20,20

Farmers walk
90lb per hand x40 yards x2
"" x 30 yards x6

Ab wheel
20,15,15

Hang leg raise
20,15,25

This was all done in about an hour.

Diet update:
Everything has been going well. Keeping it clean, until I got drunk on tequila and Margaritas on Cinco de mayo... Then I ate pizza and pie. Oh well, **** happens.. I'm back on track.
Wednesday has now become a low ish day.

My current training + diet set up looks like this:

Monday- legs, high carb
Tuesday- chest/delt heavy, medium-high carb
Wednesday- conditioning /mobility low-ish carb
Thursday- back- high
Friday- light chest/delt -medium-high
Saturday - arms- low
Sunday- off- low

Edit to give you #s to look at:

These are my goal macros, not necessarily what I hit.

High: 400-600 C 180-200 P 80-90 F
Medium: 200-400C 220-230P 80-100 F
Low 50-150 c 230-250p 100-150 F

I don't count or weigh anymore everyThing is roughly eyeballed.

 

[wasme]

I am having another go at Program 3... really like the way Meadows sets it up.

 

[aceroni]

I am having another go at Program 3... really like the way Meadows sets it up.

I really enjoyed the heavy overload with all the chain work during reactive pump.
Plus all the dead lifts.

 

[wasme]

I really enjoyed the heavy overload with all the chain work during reactive pump. Plus all the dead lifts.

Also like the extra chest/shoulder day in reactive pump. I am currently just rolling till I need a day off, or going 4 on 1 off with program 3.

 

[Lukef2000]

I'm in ace! Didn't know you had a log up ill shoot over and sub to that too.

 

[aceroni]

Here's todays training

Did light chest and delt today, by far my favorite session of these yet.

Free motion unilateral chest press
15,13,11,9,7

The motion is kind of inbetween a fly and a press, per Ben pakluski.

DB hex press
45x12
40x2x12

pec minor dip ss band over and back
Bw x 12,12,15 // 10,10,10

DB rear delt fly ss spider walk
25x4x15 // red mini x4x3

Rear delt, resting forehead on incline bench, full ROM
spider walk, up and down is one rep

My rear Delts were screaming here

Horizontal press ss band pullaparts
5lb x3x10 // oj micro mini x3 x10

 

[aceroni]

Training today and a suppdate

Trained arms today

V bar pushdown ss BB curl
4x20 // 90x4x8

Constant tension on both. Squeezing the BB as hard as possible. I was supposed my grip4orce but I forgot them

DB hammer curl ss dips between benches
35x4x10 // 70lb on lap 4x 10

Hard flex on curls, slow negatives on both

Incline bench curls ss overhead rope extension
25x4x10 // 4x10 +5 partials

Smash DB together on curls, slow negatives, hard flex. Working the stretch on the tricep.

Suppdate: didn't plan on starting cistamax, but I bought it, and started it today. Also added GMS to my pre, pump was stupid today.

 

[aceroni]

Recent updates from my log. Still waiting on stimul8 to arrive.

Trained legs today

Hamstring curl
4x10
Smooth, constant tension, hips down.
Last set with a drop for 15 reps plus 30 partials.

SSB
Bar x15,10
155x10,5
245x6
295x6
315x6
335x6

The rubber matted floor was slick from humidity, making it damn near impossible to torque.
I threw some chalk on the floor, it helped just enough that my feet weren't sliding.

Unfortunately, I didn't get a video. I'm bummed because the last set wasn't pretty. It'd have been nice to see where it went wrong, and to also show you guys the brand new mono.

Leg extension
4x12

Explosive, hold contraction. With 30 second stretch

One legged Leg press
One giant ascending set working up in 25 lb increments all the way to five plates

With 30 second stretch

RDL
195x4x10

Deep stretch, using 25#plates, constant tension up to 3/4 lockout and back down.

Standing calf
10 reps plus ten second flex

Three times is one set did three sets super set with dorsiflexion to failure

I started cistamax two days ago. Nothing much to report yet. I have been looking a little leaner and Fuller but I believe that's from adjusting my diet because I don't think you'd notice anything in two days.

Edit. Now that I think about it I just realized I've been really warm, more warm than usual. Might be the cistamax

Just got back from the Chiro. Got an adjustment, plus a.r.t on my glutes, hip flexors, and pec tie in, and traps.
My ribs were all ****ed up, and my pecs were super tight, which was keeping my pec minor from contracting properly. Hopefully this should help my pressing today, we'll see

 

[bean5er]

Recent updates from my log. Still waiting on stimul8 to arrive.

So sorry for the delay Ace. Thanks for your patience buddy

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Cherry was scheduled to ship this week....Watermelon ships next week

 

[aceroni]

No worries about the delay guys. I have plenty of pre workouts for the mean time.
A half tub of enhanced and a half tub of Jack3d micro.
I'm sure it'll show up soon.
Anyway here's my last two updates.

Chest /Delts

Banded chest press
4x8
Ten partials on last set

slight incline BB press
135x2x6
185x6
205x6
215x6

pointer finger on ring
pause 1"off chest, explode to 3/4 lock out. Real slow negative

Flat chain bench
135+2 chain/side x4 sets x5 reps

Pause on chest, explode up
Moved my grip in on these and they flew off my chest, ring finger on rings.

Tri set:
A) DB hex press x8
B) pec minor dip xfailure
C) regular dip x failure

Regular dips were done out of the stretch position, only coming up halfway. Did three rounds of this my chest had a sickening pump

DB rear delt fly
25x20
25x20 +10 swing
25x20 +20 swing

Rear Delts were blown up

Six ways
10lb x3 x10

Cage press
115x4x5

Moved my grip in on these also and they really flew up, about a thumb away from the smooth.

Lever 2x5
Hanging leg raise 2x10
Wood chopper super set pallof press 3x10

I gotta say I'm disappointed this program is almost over. It's been one of my favorite Meadows programs with all of the chain./explosive work.

Yeah I'm not quite sure yet. As of right now though weights are feeling heavier (squats yesterday and incline today) so I'll probably back off next week do mostly conditioning and explosive work nothing heavy nothing to failure.

Macro update
Monday
600c
250p
80f

Tuesday
525c
230p
90f

Tomorrow will be conditioning and mobility only, with lower carbs and higher fats

Was down three pounds from last Monday to this Monday.
Although it was mostly being water weight, I could tell my lever felt more loose than usual as well.

After checking my weight today from Mondays carb up I was only down 1-1.5 lbs total. So I'm leaning up but very slowly.

 

[wasme]

Intense workouts. I think Stimul8 will impress you Ace.

 

[aceroni]

Thanks wasme. Looking forward to trying it

Here's todays conditioning

Conditioning today

Sled:
Backwards x30 yard
Forward sprint x30 yard
That is one "set"

45#x2 sets
100# x2 sets
150#x2
200#x2
45#x4

15 minute treadmill 3.5 speed 6 incline

Three minute cool down.

 

[JudgementDay]

Awesome workouts! Wait until you try conditioning with Stimul8

 

[wasme]

Ace some good news - your Stimul8 has shipped!

 

[aceroni]

Just got my stimul8 today. Really looking forward to cracking it open for legs. Will start with 1/2 scoop.

 

[aceroni]

Took one half scoop, it mixed well.

It tasted great too.

This may be placebo, but I took it maybe five minutes ago and I feel a cool, calm focus.

Thanks for the shaker too, guys.

I'll update after training as well.

 

[Sean1332]

Definetly no placebo. It hits me pretty quick.

 

[wasme]

Indeed! Takes about 10 minutes and I am ready to roll.

 

[aceroni]

I only took half a scoop today.

The first thing I noticed was the calm focus. I had plenty of energy to train, but I wasn't all hyped up.

I really liked that.

I'm looking forward to trying out 3/4 -1 scoop tomorrow.

I'll be doing some back hypertrophy and speed benching, along with the bandell bar.

Here's today's training

Did arms Saturday and light chest/ Delts Sunday. That concluded the six Weeks of reactive pump.

I decided to deload this week, still training just not taking anything to failure/ straining at all. Not going crazy with accessory work either.

Anyway, here's todays leg training.

Standing leg curl 3x20
Three different toe angles

Leg press one set forty or so reps

SSB parallel box squat
work up
245x2 sets x6 reps
335x4x3

Was going to stick to two plates but my brother wanted to toss on another, and my speed was good, so whatever

Ghr
Bodyweight x5
Band assisted x3x5

Really slow negatives

Reverse hyper 100x3x10

One set B.Pak calves

 

[pete8407]

I'm in

 

[JudgementDay]

Took one half scoop, it mixed well.

It tasted great too.

This may be placebo, but I took it maybe five minutes ago and I feel a cool, calm focus.

Thanks for the shaker too, guys.

I'll update after training as well.

Good reaction on half a scoop. Full scoop will be intense

 

[Montego1]

That quick hit was definitely not placebo. If I'm more then ten minutes away from the gym when I Stimul8 I'm gonna get side tracked....most likely kicking ass and taking names

 

[bean5er]

That quick hit was definitely not placebo. If I'm more then ten minutes away from the gym when I Stimul8 I'm gonna get side tracked....most likely kicking ass and taking names

Agree with monte. No placebo at all. Quick calm focus with lasting energy and thermo.

Enjoy Ace

 

[aceroni]

Took 3/4 scoop today, really enjoYing the calm focus, clean energy, and mood enhancement

 

[aceroni]

Took a little less than a scoop before conditioning today.

Not sure if it was the humidity or the stimul8 but I was seating like a hog

I think next time before conditioning I'll try just a half scoop, this was pretty strong stim wise.

I'm really digging this flavor.
I don't drink most of my pre, I'll just throw Scoop in my mouth. But I enjoy drinking this on the way to the gym.
I give it a few shakes, let it sit a second, and it's mixed really well.

Anyway here's my training the last two days

Did some light pressing today with back work

warmup : Meadows rows 3x15
Going really slow really light just trying to get blood in the lats

Fat man rows
Bodyweight x 15,12,11

Elbows flared, holding contraction at top

Flat BB bench
Bar x6
135x2x6
185x5 sets x3 reps

Just playing around with grip and bar path like herder was talking about.
I think either ring fingers or pinkies on the ring is fastest for me.
Anyways, it needs more practice.

1/2" PVC pipe (bandell bar) bench

Hanging two ten lb kettle balls and one fifteen per side with red mini bands

3x15

These felt great. I love them.

DB incline
55x3x15

Monkey bar pullups
Bw x 7,6,6,7

Focusing on keeping the sternum arched.
Kept everything light today, no stain no hard sets really.

Trying to be better about my deload week.

Anyway if you're not in my stimul8 log, I've really enjoyed it these first two days.

Conditioning today

Super D day after squats

standing calf raise
Working up in 8 until I could barely get 8. Got up to 425 I think
With partials

Sled
50# 30 yard drag 30 sprint x2
100# "" x2
150# "" x2
200# "" x 2
50# "" x2

Trainer called me out on my biomechanics. Said I had no knee and arm drive.
I corrected it and the last sprint felt great.

Post workout meal

One sweet potato mixed with a cup of mixed raspberries and blueberries

One cup white, two whole eggs, mixed with onion, pepper, and a tiny bit of pepper jack cheese

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[bean5er]

Took a little less than a scoop before conditioning today.

Not sure if it was the humidity or the stimul8 but I was seating like a hog

I think next time before conditioning I'll try just a half scoop, this was pretty strong stim wise.

I'm really digging this flavor.
I don't drink most of my pre, I'll just throw Scoop in my mouth. But I enjoy drinking this on the way to the gym.
I give it a few shakes, let it sit a second, and it's mixed really well.

Anyway here's my training the last two days

Obviously humidity played a role but nothing makes me swear like Stimul8 so this doesn't surprise me bud.

Somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 scoop is my sweet spot

 

[wasme]

I am willing to wager that crazy sweat is mostly due to Stimul8 (and how it increases performance)! Great workouts, and glad you are enjoying the flavor Ace.

 

[JudgementDay]

I am willing to wager that crazy sweat is mostly due to Stimul8 (and how it increases performance)! Great workouts, and glad you are enjoying the flavor Ace.

Everyone seems to really be commenting on the crazy sweating and performance boost. I'm trying a tub soon

Been stuck on that MAX PUMP! omg the stuff is amazing.

 

[aceroni]

I just threw a little under a scoop of stimul8 in my mouth while driving to the gym today.
I'm not going to lie, I regretted it.

Not because it's rough as straight powder (I always do it), but because I didn't get to taste it.

Then I gave my girlfriend a scoop to try and I really wish I'd have drank mine.
Yeah, I love the flavor.

Anyway I got a great focus from the scoop, and my mind muscle connection was spot on.

i'm not sure if it's the stimul8 (or having added conditioning work a month ago) but I feel like I can move thru exercises much more quickly without getting fatigued.

Probably a little of both.

Here's today's back training.

Trained back + pulled today
still deloading, so just trying to keep everything light /no grinding

Meadows rows
85x3 x10

Dog bone pulldowns
3x8
Pause at nose, flex upper back hard /deep stretch

Pendlay rows
135x6
185x3x6
Elbows flared, really wide grip

Kayak pulldown
3x8

Conventional deadlift
135x3x3
225x3x3
225x4x3*
315x2x2

The first three sets of 225 felt great and I was in a really good groove, hips were firing quick today, right after clearing the knees, which is usually my technical issue with heavier weights.

The second four sets of 225 I had a band around my hips, and pulling me backwards, like herder does. I don't remember what he calls it.

Those were hard, and I think they got me out of my groove.
315 was way slower than it should have been, so I just shut it down.


Farmer walk:
50# per handle 60yd x4 (open palms)
100# x60yd x4
140# X15yd x2
140# x45yd x2

Grip slipped on the first set of 140, so I did a walk of shame back to the 0yd line

 

[wasme]

Another great workout Ace. I gotta admit, I enjoy the taste far too much to take it dry and chase with water. And I'd definitely say your conditioning with Stimul8 is propelling you.

 

[aceroni]

It seems that a little above 3/4 scoop is almost too strong for me. It doesn't negatively effect my training (the opposite, actually) but I was shaky at home after.. Not sure if it was from training arms or the scoop but I feel much better now, the come down off this stim is very smooth. I'm still focused, and have ample energy, but i'm calm.


The calm focus from this is really my favorite part about this. This is where it shines above other pres that get you amped/ hyped. I prefer the calm focus, actually.

Here's todays training.

Woke up, traps and neck were sore from farmer walk.

warmed up with four rounds of sprints on the air sprint 15 seconds on 30off

Did a giant set for arms:

BB curl with fat grips bar x12
DB cross body supinating curl 15x8
1.25 incline DB curl 20x6
Fat bar tricep pushdown x 10
Bench dip x12
Over head spud strap extension x10

Five rounds.. First one was a warmup

Finished with 10 sprints on the air sprint
15 on 35off

 

[wasme]

A lot of guys find their sweet spot is at 3/4 of a scoop - so that does make sense.

 

[aceroni]

Took a half scoop during work last night.
It was great, with all that focus I got a ton of work done, leaving my partner on the A.m. crew very well set up for success.

A few nudes..
abs starting to sharpen up a little... don't mind the fuzziness, took it on my phone.
I think I'll be nice and cut by the time July rolls around, after a few diet tweaks.
Conditioning and stimul8 are starting to take effect.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

awesome man -- ace you are looking really good!
kudos

 

[aceroni]

awesome man -- ace you are looking really good!
kudos

Thanks snags