Making natural gains after AAS

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Well I figured I'd make a log both to help motivate myself and also to show people what can be done without AAS or prohormones. I considered putting this in the old school hormone use section because that's most of the people I talk to, but it wouldn't have made much sense. I have been without AAS for two years now. I took various cycles between the ages of 23-27. I've got up to as high as 245lbs without gear. Right now I've dropped down to 225lbs waking this morning. This is about where I've been sitting for the last week or two. I lost some weight in my legs due to a left quad injury for about the last 4 months, that seems to be healed now. I also went on a few vacations that helped with the weight loss, and I also fracture some bones in my feet last year jumping down a flight of stairs that made me lose some more weight in the legs, that was also about four months off. Needless to say I'm ready to go HAM for a little while, especially legs. I won't be anal with this log going into diet specifics and all that, I would but I just don't have the extra time.

My training will look like:
Mon: chest, abs
Tues: biceps, forearms, calves
Wed: quads
Thurs: shoulders, triceps, abs
Fri: back
Sat: hamstrings, calves

My diet will basically be a shake when I wake (a large banana, 2 scoops whey, one scoop bcaa's, a little cream of rice, some fresh spinach, water), a shake after the gym (2 scoops whey, a scoop of waxy maize, 10oz apple juice, a scoop of bcaa's) and then a meal with at least the caloric equivalence of an 8oz chicken breast and 2 cups brown rice with some healthy fats an hour after this and then every 2.5hrs until I go to sleep.

My supplements are:
Now liquid Glucosamine, chondroitin, msm (twice a day)

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Optimum Alpha (twice a day)

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Preworkout is PreSurge, plus I add in 3000mg beta alanine and 1500mg agmatine sulfate, a scoop of bcaa's and a scoop of Karbolyn

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My goal is to hit 235 in two months without gaining any fat, I actually hope to lose a little fat in the process. I can take some before pics and measurements later today. I will put up some workouts along the way to show if there's any progress in the gym as well.
 
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sub'd. kill it.
 
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2nd!
 
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Ok, I took some selfies at the gym for "before pics" I can def tell I've gained fat around my midsection and lost some size over the last month in particular. 5 days in Cartagena on vodka and blow (I was on my best friends bachelor party, I don't even drink ever usually) then two weeks binge eating (I think I've had carrabbas 5 times, outback twice and Chinese takeout twice since I got back) def fckd me up. No legs pics yet, didn't want to drop my shorts in that locker room.

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After seeing these pics I decided to also add CLA to a lot of my meals haha
 
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Just a little bf should peel off no problem.
 
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Thanks fellas, I'll post up my weight every two weeks or so, def feeling motivated to hit the gym particularly hard for a while!
 
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I'm here for the gang bang?
 
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Well I just put my legs through a little hell.

Leg extensions for 3 sets of 12
Hack squats for 4 sets of 12
Lunges across the gym with the 45s, 3 sets (24 steps each)
Squats 2 sets of 20
Leg extensions FST-7

I'm limping out
 
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FST-7 FTW!!!
 
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FST-7 FTW!!!
**** works man, I've done more routines than I can count and the amount of blood fst-7 forces into the target muscle group is amazing (plus the fascia stretching is very cool). My legs were shaking pressing my clutch in haha
 
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Oh man, I projectile vomited my shake and just had to chug another one, fck
 
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Cocaine's one helluva drug.
 
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Crushed tris and shoulders, pumped up!! I need 20" arms ASAP haha

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Crushed tris and shoulders, pumped up!! I need 20" arms ASAP haha <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98040"/>
Where they at now? Fortunately you don't have a super thick front to back profile, the arms fit your physique and look pretty damn large in that side shot
 
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Where they at now? Fortunately you don't have a super thick front to back profile, the arms fit your physique and look pretty damn large in that side shot
well my tris and shoulders were pumped big time and my chest and back weren't, so that makes a difference, I can't find my damn measuring tape, but I'd bet my left nut they are sitting at 18.5 cold right now.
 
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well my tris and shoulders were pumped big time and my chest and back weren't, so that makes a difference, I can't find my damn measuring tape, but I'd bet my left nut they are sitting at 18.5 cold right now.
Lol I had literally never measured till a few months ago. I was surprised to see 18.5 cold, my arms look so tiny on my torso it's ridiculous. Go to walmart and grab a tape dude. You may surprise the **** out of your self. I actually like the idea of taking like monthly measurements to track progress better than looking at the scale.
 
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Lol I had literally never measured till a few months ago. I was surprised to see 18.5 cold, my arms look so tiny on my torso it's ridiculous. Go to walmart and grab a tape dude. You may surprise the **** out of your self. I actually like the idea of taking like monthly measurements to track progress better than looking at the scale.
the mirror and measuring tape tell a lot more than the scale does. The scale is just a way to know if ur growing or shrinking haha, my arms are also very long, I'll go get a tape soon if mine doesn't pop up
 
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the mirror and measuring tape tell a lot more than the scale does. The scale is just a way to know if ur growing or shrinking haha, my arms are also very long, I'll go get a tape soon if mine doesn't pop up
I've got arms and legs of someone that should be 6'1" and a torso of 5'7". I know your pain. I have to decimate my arms and calves to grow.
 
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I've got arms and legs of someone that should be 6'1" and a torso of 5'7". I know your pain. I have to decimate my arms and calves to grow.
i like having long limbs, my arms actually grow quickly(triceps ESP), I went soft on them for about 3 years because they were proportionately too big for my physique. Just started hitting them hard again. The only downside to long limbs is bench was very difficult to get my weight up, I move the bar a very long distance, but "it's how much you look like you can lift, not how much you lift that matters" haha
 
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i like having long limbs, my arms actually grow quickly(triceps ESP), I went soft on them for about 3 years because they were proportionately too big for my physique. Just started hitting them hard again. The only downside to long limbs is bench was very difficult to get my weight up, I move the bar a very long distance, but "it's how much you look like you can lift, not how much you lift that matters" haha
Lol true that. As long as I'm in baggy long sleeves and pants I look like I can lift it all
 
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i like having long limbs, my arms actually grow quickly(triceps ESP), I went soft on them for about 3 years because they were proportionately too big for my physique. Just started hitting them hard again. The only downside to long limbs is bench was very difficult to get my weight up, I move the bar a very long distance
Pull ups suck with long limbs too. Lot of distance to raise your frame up.
 
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Pull ups suck with long limbs too. Lot of distance to raise your frame up.
true.. Thank got I'm a trex mutha fuker. As far as scales go fuk that noise. I get on once a week and go off my pictures. As long as I look leaner and am losing a all amount my cut is going good. Opposite for bulking. I am gifted with matching limbs and torso to leg ratios so I grow evenly now that most of my lagging parts started catching up.
 
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Well I just put my legs through a little hell.

Leg extensions for 3 sets of 12
Hack squats for 4 sets of 12
Lunges across the gym with the 45s, 3 sets (24 steps each)
Squats 2 sets of 20
Leg extensions FST-7

I'm limping out
In late. FST-7 leg presses is my go to for trying to ruin a first timer at the gym. vomit, tears, bloody noses.
 
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In late. FST-7 leg presses is my go to for trying to ruin a first timer at the gym. vomit, tears, bloody noses.
Bloody noses huh? I'd hate having a trainer who punched me in the nose with his junk too.
 
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I had a buddy telling me a story the other day about how he was banging some chick and got a bloody nose and was going to stop, but she got into it and told him to keep going, and he said it was a real gusher, lmao
 
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I had a buddy telling me a story the other day about how he was banging some chick and got a bloody nose and was going to stop, but she got into it and told him to keep going, and he said it was a real gusher, lmao
Was she a gusher too? That sh!t's hot.
 
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Bloody noses huh? I'd hate having a trainer who punched me in the nose with his junk too.
Sometimes you just gotta tea bag a buddy that's being a puss.
 
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Sometimes you just gotta tea bag a buddy that's being a puss.
nothing helps me move some heavy weight past failure than the fear of "Arabian sand goggles"
 
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Check this sh!t out! <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98100"/>
Yo whered you get a picture of me and my woman.
 
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Haha, some guy just killed that thing in North Carolina, the scale only went up to 500lbs and it tipped it. Killed it with one shot from an AR-10 with a .308-caliber round. I don't think I've ever seen a boar larger than that one
 
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Haha, some guy just killed that thing in North Carolina, the scale only went up to 500lbs and it tipped it. Killed it with one shot from an AR-10 with a .308-caliber round. I don't think I've ever seen a boar larger than that one
That pics been floating around for a while man ..
 
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What kid of mutant freak is that?!? I need to be riding that b!tch to the gym!
 
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Haha fuk that! Can u imagine how bad that thing smelled?
 

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