Accelerant/Peak Beta+/X-Factor Advanced: MN Triad of Gains

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  1. I'm looking at running a PB+ and XFA stack soon, and Accelerant has caught my attention. Is it much use on a lean bulk though (as I will be doing), or far better suited to cutting? Also, as I workout fasted around 11AM, and have my PWO shake and then a meal around 1-2pm, are the GDA components of Accelerant wasted?


  2. Shoulder pumps yesterday = insane. I was doing a lot of higher rep partials and such so that I didn't aggravate my tendonitis and damn. I had striatinos showing and could clearly see every head that was working. Just amazing.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Johnston View Post
    I'm looking at running a PB+ and XFA stack soon, and Accelerant has caught my attention. Is it much use on a lean bulk though (as I will be doing), or far better suited to cutting? Also, as I workout fasted around 11AM, and have my PWO shake and then a meal around 1-2pm, are the GDA components of Accelerant wasted?
    Accelerant is actually pretty damn good for a lean bulk as the stims arent so strong theyll completely kill your appetite, and as you mentioned the GDA effect is beneficial on a lean bulk as well. GDA's are actually popular both before meals, and at times like empty stomach pre bed (for helping with potentially more growth hormone release).

    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Shoulder pumps yesterday = insane. I was doing a lot of higher rep partials and such so that I didn't aggravate my tendonitis and damn. I had striatinos showing and could clearly see every head that was working. Just amazing.
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  4. Today was chest and tris. I was feeling good when I got to the gym and it showed in my lifts. I was able to tie or break every rep pr for every exercise. Was also able to add 20lb extra to my weighted dips. Pump in my chest was incredible after just 2 sets and by the end it looked like my chest had doubled in size.
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  5. Haven't been feeling too great this weekend so taking it easy. Cardio only yesterday, 14hrs of sleep and a ton of spinach and greens today. Taking te day totally off and resting up for tomorrow's workout.
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  6. Morning weight 191.6lb (down about 2.5lb) so everything is right on track. Accelerant seems to be doing exactly as billed.

    Today's workout will be switching to a DTP style so some of the sets and reps are gonna be insanely high. Really anticipating some monster pumps and serious DOMS from this week as the XFA/PB+ should also be in full effect.
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  7. Hell ya, breaking PR's, products working as advertised... looking like a typical Molecular Nutrition log up in here

    Congrats on the weight loss as well!
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  8. Yesterdays workout was chest/back in the new phase. DTP style supersetting of db bench and bent over db rows. sets were x50,x40,x30,x20,x10,x5,x5,x10, x20,x30,x40,x50... I was totally blown away by the endurance that I swear I didn't have yesterday. I was crushing every set, was able to bump weights up on a couple on the way back up the ladder, and was barely breathing heavy for more then a few seconds after each ss.

    The pump I had in my chest and back was also really good. Not groundbreaking as it has been (took a different preworkout) but still amazing.

    I was feeling so good after my workout that I rewarded myself by adding in 5 sets of heavy BB Bench and 5 sets of Pullups ha... Literally had to take myself out of the gym because I felt like I could stay all day.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Yesterdays workout was chest/back in the new phase. DTP style supersetting of db bench and bent over db rows. sets were x50,x40,x30,x20,x10,x5,x5,x10, x20,x30,x40,x50... I was totally blown away by the endurance that I swear I didn't have yesterday. I was crushing every set, was able to bump weights up on a couple on the way back up the ladder, and was barely breathing heavy for more then a few seconds after each ss.

    The pump I had in my chest and back was also really good. Not groundbreaking as it has been (took a different preworkout) but still amazing.

    I was feeling so good after my workout that I rewarded myself by adding in 5 sets of heavy BB Bench and 5 sets of Pullups ha... Literally had to take myself out of the gym because I felt like I could stay all day.
    Pretty much describes exactly how I feel with X-Factor and Peak Beta+, both produce such a drastic increase in muscular endurance.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Pretty much describes exactly how I feel with X-Factor and Peak Beta+, both produce such a drastic increase in muscular endurance.
    I had surprising strength increases with PB+ alone but I don't know that I've ever felt that combo of overall endurance, drive, and strength. Truly impressive as I was even stronger then at the peak of my last cycle... This may really be as good or better then the "real" thing ha.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    I had surprising strength increases with PB+ alone but I don't know that I've ever felt that combo of overall endurance, drive, and strength. Truly impressive as I was even stronger then at the peak of my last cycle... This may really be as good or better then the "real" thing ha.
    I too was quite surprised with Peak Beta+.

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    I too was quite surprised with Peak Beta+. NP will be running buy 2 XF/XFA get a free Peak Beta+ soon!
    Man I might have to pick up another stack. I already have 3 bottles of xf/a laying around but this has gone so well so far it'd be hard to pass up
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Man I might have to pick up another stack. I already have 3 bottles of xf/a laying around but this has gone so well so far it'd be hard to pass up
    Absolutely, both XF and PB+ are fail proof supplements!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Absolutely, both XF and PB+ are fail proof supplements!
    Cant disagree. Hitting Legs/Shoulders today with some insane reps so the pump should be brutal
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    NP will be running buy 2 XF/XFA get a free Peak Beta+ soon!
    How soon do you reckon that will be? Was planning on putting in an order, so hopefully sooner rather than later!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Johnston View Post
    How soon do you reckon that will be? Was planning on putting in an order, so hopefully sooner rather than later!
    It went up today!
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  17. I'm a bit puzzled why they're combining XF and XFA... would make more sense to offer a choice of one or the other.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Johnston View Post
    I'm a bit puzzled why they're combining XF and XFA... would make more sense to offer a choice of one or the other.
    Eh, probably just so people can try both and see which they like...
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  19. Yesterdays workout was INSANE: Squat and DB Shoulder Press Super sets of 50,40,30,20,10,5,5,10,20,30,40 ,50 reps... I thought I was going to puke for sure towards some of the heavier sets. My legs were shaking so bad when I drove home I almost stalled my stick shift truck because I couldn't hold the clutch in without shaking. I was so mentally and physically tired when I got home I didn't even bother to cook anything I just heated up whatever was available in the microwave, struggled through a shower, and crawled to the couch for the last 2 hrs or so of the evening.

    Had a full day long training class yesterday before my workout and I was in an especially good mood for most of the day. I have to attribute my recent good mood regularity to the accelerant as I'm at week 10 of my cut and usually at this stage I'm bordering on the most miserable person alive to be around ha.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Eh, probably just so people can try both and see which they like...
    Ya I assumed this is why they're doing it this way. I do agree it would have made a bit more sense offering both options separately.
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  21. Holy. Leg. DOMS.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Holy. Leg. DOMS.
    Glad to hear it, those leg days that lead to waddling around the next couple days always induce the most growth!
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  23. Decided to add an extra workout day on saturday and man was it a good one. Just a little bit of everything (including some leg presses even though there was still a little soreness in my hamstrings ha) to round out the week. Workout was fantastic and I was setting PR's in rack pulls and leg presses. Leg presses I was able to add 100lb for the same reps I normally do!

    Weigh in this morning at 187.6lb (down another 3+lb!) so the accelerant is definitely doing its job. Mood enhancement is still ok, not quite as prevalent as it was initially but I really notice it on fasted training days (like saturday).

    Absolutely LOVING the ARA/PB+ combo for strength and endurance. Pumps have been ok, nothing to truly rave about, but still good. Will be hitting chest and back hard tonight with some high reps again.
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  24. @SwolenONE, what are your thoughts on taking only 4 PB+/ day as opposed to the 8/day now that it has kicked in? Any idea if the COP is similar to regualar creatine in that the maintenance dose can be smaller then the loading phase?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    @SwolenONE, what are your thoughts on taking only 4 PB+/ day as opposed to the 8/day now that it has kicked in? Any idea if the COP is similar to regualar creatine in that the maintenance dose can be smaller then the loading phase?
    Feel free to try the lower Peak Beta dosing if you'd like. I recommend the full dose of 8/day, but you can certainly play around with the dosing to see what you prefer.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Feel free to try the lower Peak Beta dosing if you'd like. I recommend the full dose of 8/day, but you can certainly play around with the dosing to see what you prefer.
    Ya the bottle says 4 caps 1-2 times/day... at 45 servings that would last a lot longer then the 22 that you get at 8/day
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Ya the bottle says 4 caps 1-2 times/day... at 45 servings that would last a lot longer then the 22 that you get at 8/day
    The LCLT and norvaline in particular are dosed better at 8 caps than 4. I think you'll find that you prefer 8 caps a day to 4. If you end up seeing similar results at 4 a day though, feel free to stick with it and stretch the bottle out!
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    The LCLT and norvaline in particular are dosed better at 8 caps than 4. I think you'll find that you prefer 8 caps a day to 4. If you end up seeing similar results at 4 a day though, feel free to stick with it and stretch the bottle out!
    Ya I thought about that. Maybe what I'll try is 8 on training days with my xfa and 4 on cardio only days just to keep levels up in my system. That'll at least give me a little extra
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Ya I thought about that. Maybe what I'll try is 8 on training days with my xfa and 4 on cardio only days just to keep levels up in my system. That'll at least give me a little extra
    That sounds like a very good plan.
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  30. Been adding some calories and foods back into my diet here slowly over the last few days... Workout days have been +100-200 calories, cardio only have been +50-100 cals. Also have begun to add some fruit back into my PWO diet (a banana to start).

    Accelerant notes: I've noticed this week that the euphoria/mood enhancement has seemed to wear off. I'm not nearly as "chipper" in the mornings, and have even been a bit irritable over the last few days. Seems like the effects are dimishing with continued use. Fat loss still is on track through which is my no.1 concern though so I'm content with that alone.
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