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    BodyFat Breakthrough with Level II (by Formutech)


    First off, thanks to Formutech; the Swankster, Bruce, and everyone else doing work/repping for Formutech. Great products over there!

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    Level II is dosed with an innovative proprietary mix of ingredients that is sure to deliver an abundance of sustained high energy without that annoying JITTERY feeling; and no crash.*You will notice:

    - Increased metabolism*

    - Enhanced mood, especially when dieting*

    - Better mental focus and speedy brain function*

    - Decreased appetite*
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    Starting weight was 196.3, but I was extremely bloated. Normal fasted weight for me is 193, give or take a pound.

    I have had so many issues with these damn pictures. It crashed my work computer and then I couldn't load them from my phone.
    And... they still aren't loading. I'll try again on another post from my phone since I can't edit in photos from the phone... GRRRR

    Measurements that matter:
    Chest- 42.38"
    Waist- 38.5
    Thighs- 24.5
    Arms- 16.125

    Goal:
    36" waist or less, withought affecting my chest/arms (much). Around a 180-185 weight. I think this is definitely possible.
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    Energy: 5/5

    This isn't the strongest thermo that I've tried, but it is the cleanest-energy thermo for the strength. Even now, over a month into daily use, one cap will give me a pick-me-up. On an energy level alone, a single cap did the trick as my coffee substitute in the afternoons and in the early, early morning before going up in my deer stand. For those that want a big ole energy boost, two caps should be plenty.

    Appetite suppression: 6/5
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    Top-of-the-line appetite suppressant; no joke. I can't add much to this except that it is exceptional here. One or two caps, doesn't matter, I can go hours without feeling like I need anything to eat. Also, I don’t find myself starving when it wears off like other thermos can do.

    Duration:

    Hmm. Peak energy I’d say 3-4 hours, and peak appetite suppressant 4-6 hours. On the higher end if you take two caps instead of one.

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    Crash:


    I have not noticed any crashes with Level II at all. Because I work out at 0330 I get a little tired around lunch time, but I always have. I could see a crash MAYBE if you’re used to limited-to-no caffeine on a regular basis, but the same could be said about any stimulant, really.

    BM:

    No changes in my BM.

    Sleep:

    Level II did not affect my sleep at all. I have taken them as late as 1530-1545 when bedtime is at 2100 and have had no issues sleeping. I probably could take a single capsule of Level II as late as 1700 (5pm) and have no issues.

    Attitude:

    Level II did not negatively affect my attitude. If anything it helped perk me up a little quicker.

    Jitters:

    With up to 2 caps at a time, and waiting at least 4 hours before dosing any more, I noticed no jitters.

    Again, I am a caffeine junky. If coffee gives you jitters, then Level II might also. I’d equate 1 capsule is probably equal to a strong cup of coffee.
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    Overall on the product:
    5/5

    I’m honestly trying to find a reason to give Level II capsules a 9/10 instead, but I can’t. It’s not too weak and it’s not too strong. It doesn’t give me any negative side affects. It suppresses my appetite SUPERBLY, even at one dose. That alone makes it economically effective.

    If I could change one thing, it would have to be the color. I hate orange. Damn Gator colors…

    I recommend Level II for anyone trying to cut that has any issues trying to limit their hunger, or anyone that wants a clean energy boost without a geekin’ effect.
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    In first bishes! Bwahahahaha! Sorry, kill it RJ!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
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    So, I've officially spent my entire lunch break trying to get photos to load. My laptop didn't work at home yesterday and I'm having issues today. Apparently, government computers block noods. :/

    Anyway, I have to get back to work but I have more info/meal plans/first dose, etc. coming up later.

    If they load, here's my chunkster photos:


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    'Nother nood.
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    appetite suppression is phenomenal!!!
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    Today was an off day.

    My caloric goal is 2,400-2,600, and I'll probably stay bear the lower end. Hopefully, at least.

    Today I have 2,180 planned, so I'll add a little more in later. Worst case I can always have a protein shake with milk or something.

    My meals stay mostly consistent from M-F because I prep my meals during the weekend. Also makes it easier to not cheat much.

    Today (and the rest of the week) I have:
    Breakfast-
    Coffee w/ 3/4c milk
    8oz Chicken
    1.5oz Fat Free Ranch

    Lunch(es) (I started eating on it around 10am and finish it around 3'ish). -
    1svg rice cake snack
    16oz chicken with taco seasoning, chipotle pepper, and 1.5 oz spicy BBQ sauce
    1c rice with chipotle pepper

    1600 snack-
    1can tuna with 1/4tsp taco seasoning and chipotle pepper

    Dinner-
    8oz chicken

    This is what will vary daily, maybe. Today is:
    Ramen noodles
    Two heaping tbsp blue cheese
    Broccoli
    Maybe ranch dressing?

    Anyway, I'll post final numbers after dinner.
    Also, I'll update my thoughts on my first dose.
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    i see where you said in my log that you can't run due to an injury? you might try rowing machine...or anything that gets heart rate up for at least 20 minutes.

    i can't even imagine cutting weight without cardio...anyways, might as well put that extra energy from level II to good use!!!

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    Ok, I only dosed 1 cap today, and wanted to feel that out before doing potentially two at a time or in a day based on any sides/crashes.

    With 1 cap dosed at 0830, I had a dramatic increase in energy within 15 minutes. It wasn't a jittery, teeth clenching type of energy like I experienced when u first tried ECA; it was truly a "clean" feeling energy. This will surely be put to the test as the week goes on after waking up at 0330.

    I initially didn't think I noticed any appetite suppression until I tried to eat. I'd take a bite and feel full. I actually had to force myself to eat every hour to stay on my calorie/protein goal. Even now I don't feel that hungry, and that very unusual for me. After eating 3700-4000/day from June 3-a couple weeks ago, there has been no easy adjustment to dropping my appetite. I bet, had I been one to attempt to eat <2K/day, I could easily have done so today. BUT, I didn't lift... I'm always starving after lifting. So, we'll see how that plays in tomorrow.

    There was no crash from 1 cap, at least not yet (9+ hrs later). So, I'll probably dose 1 cap around 0700 tomorrow, and another around 1300. Because I feel a strong energy and appetite suppressant off of one, I'm not going to jump into a two cap dose yet. Maybe I'll try that this weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i see where you said in my log that you can't run due to an injury? you might try rowing machine...or anything that gets heart rate up for at least 20 minutes.

    i can't even imagine cutting weight without cardio...anyways, might as well put that extra energy from level II to good use!!!

    oh, well...i wish you luck!!!
    It's not as much an injury as it is a discomfort. It only hurts when I run, and feels slightly uncomfortable when I do calf work. I can do elliptical work, and do a little, but I hate that dang thing.

    I workout in super sets at a relatively fast pace. My HR stays elevated during my whole weight lifting session. As long as I don't muck up my calories I'll be good to go. Any free time I have to add cardio, I will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Ok, I only dosed 1 cap today, and wanted to feel that out before doing potentially two at a time or in a day based on any sides/crashes.

    With 1 cap dosed at 0830, I had a dramatic increase in energy within 15 minutes. It wasn't a jittery, teeth clenching type of energy like I experienced when u first tried ECA; it was truly a "clean" feeling energy. This will surely be put to the test as the week goes on after waking up at 0330.

    I initially didn't think I noticed any appetite suppression until I tried to eat. I'd take a bite and feel full. I actually had to force myself to eat every hour to stay on my calorie/protein goal. Even now I don't feel that hungry, and that very unusual for me. After eating 3700-4000/day from June 3-a couple weeks ago, there has been no easy adjustment to dropping my appetite. I bet, had I been one to attempt to eat <2K/day, I could easily have done so today. BUT, I didn't lift... I'm always starving after lifting. So, we'll see how that plays in tomorrow.

    There was no crash from 1 cap, at least not yet (9+ hrs later). So, I'll probably dose 1 cap around 0700 tomorrow, and another around 1300. Because I feel a strong energy and appetite suppressant off of one, I'm not going to jump into a two cap dose yet. Maybe I'll try that this weekend.



    It's not as much an injury as it is a discomfort. It only hurts when I run, and feels slightly uncomfortable when I do calf work. I can do elliptical work, and do a little, but I hate that dang thing.

    I workout in super sets at a relatively fast pace. My HR stays elevated during my whole weight lifting session. As long as I don't muck up my calories I'll be good to go. Any free time I have to add cardio, I will.

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    I ended up with roughly 2,286 cals, leaving some play in case I shorted the log, but usually I high-ball.

    I decided to drop the noodles for dinner and went with chicken with melted blue cheese, green beans with parmesan cheese, 2.5oz fat free ranch w/ 0 calorie wing sauce, 1/2 navel orange (np), and 2 tbsp (logged as 2.5 just in case) crunchy peanut butter.




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    Nice log so far. Great detail. Which program do you use to calculate macros?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I ended up with roughly 2,286 cals, leaving some play in case I shorted the log, but usually I high-ball.

    I decided to drop the noodles for dinner and went with chicken with melted blue cheese, green beans with parmesan cheese, 2.5oz fat free ranch w/ 0 calorie wing sauce, 1/2 navel orange (np), and 2 tbsp (logged as 2.5 just in case) crunchy peanut butter.




    diet is looking good, man. cals are at a good level, I'm finally around that same level myself after my intense 8 week cut.

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    Nice log so far. Great detail. Which program do you use to calculate macros?
    i use myfitnesspal, works great although it's had some crashing problems lately for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheftepesh1 View Post
    Nice log so far. Great detail. Which program do you use to calculate macros?
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    diet is looking good, man. cals are at a good level, I'm finally around that same level myself after my intense 8 week cut.



    i use myfitnesspal, works great although it's had some crashing problems lately for some reason.
    I did 4 days at 2K or fewer last week, but I can't keep that up.

    I use MFP too. Haven't had any crashes since I got a new phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Thanks!



    I did 4 days at 2K or fewer last week, but I can't keep that up.

    I use MFP too. Haven't had any crashes since I got a new phone.
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    Sleep last night was horrible w/ 5g Melatonin. Up every hour, and a couple times every half hour, all night. I drink some water right before bed, but shouldn't have been enough to do that. I was tempted to stay in bed this morning but figured if I got up and had a bad workout, at least I'd be tired tonight.

    Fasted weight: 199
    No BM since Sunday. I'll probably be 192-193 by Thursday


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    Set 1 : 70x10
    Set 2 : 70x10
    Set 3 : 70x10
    Set 4 : 70x10
    Set 5 : 70x10
    Set 6 : 70x10
    Set 7 : 70x10
    Set 8 : 70x10
    Set 9 : 70x10
    Set 10 : 70x10

    -I struggled on the last couple of the last few sets..

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    4.0.2, 70 each side +8#’s

    Set 1 : 70x10
    Set 2 : 70x10
    Set 3 : 70x10
    Set 4 : 70x10
    Set 5 : 70x10
    Set 6 : 70x10
    Set 7 : 70x10
    Set 8 : 70x9
    Set 9 : 70x9
    Set 10 : 70x7
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    Dumbbell Decline Fly 50.67

    Set 1 : 40x8

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    Dumbbell One Arm Row 111

    Set 1 : 90x7
    Set 1 : 70x5

    Also, two sets of rack pulls at 225 and 315 (ran out of time to do more). Went slow and squeezed hard.

    One set of one arm cable lat pull.

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    No doubt, lack of sleep really messed up my workout today. I felt energized, but my body didn’t have much strength at all. Hopefully I’ll get some rest tonight.

    I took one Level II at 0600 with a post-wo protein shake. The appetite suppresant aspect is just now beginning to wear off, but the energy is still here. Even with the low sleep I'm not really yawning or feeling heavy-eyed... yet. And that's with being in boring meetings all morning.

    I will dose another right around noon and probably skip my afternoon bottle of coffee.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Sleep last night was horrible w/ 5g Melatonin. Up every hour, and a couple times every half hour, all night. I drink some water right before bed, but shouldn't have been enough to do that. I was tempted to stay in bed this morning but figured if I got up and had a bad workout, at least I'd be tired tonight.

    Fasted weight: 199
    No BM since Sunday. I'll probably be 192-193 by Thursday


    SUPER SET 1:
    30s and 60s breaks.
    Leverage Machine High Row 93.33
    4.0.2

    Set 1 : 70x10
    Set 2 : 70x10
    Set 3 : 70x10
    Set 4 : 70x10
    Set 5 : 70x10
    Set 6 : 70x10
    Set 7 : 70x10
    Set 8 : 70x10
    Set 9 : 70x10
    Set 10 : 70x10

    -I struggled on the last couple of the last few sets..

    |
    Leverage Chest Press 93.33
    4.0.2, 70 each side +8#’s

    Set 1 : 70x10
    Set 2 : 70x10
    Set 3 : 70x10
    Set 4 : 70x10
    Set 5 : 70x10
    Set 6 : 70x10
    Set 7 : 70x10
    Set 8 : 70x9
    Set 9 : 70x9
    Set 10 : 70x7
    |
    Dumbbell Decline Fly 50.67

    Set 1 : 40x8

    |
    Dumbbell One Arm Row 111

    Set 1 : 90x7
    Set 1 : 70x5

    Also, two sets of rack pulls at 225 and 315 (ran out of time to do more). Went slow and squeezed hard.

    One set of one arm cable lat pull.

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    No doubt, lack of sleep really messed up my workout today. I felt energized, but my body didn’t have much strength at all. Hopefully I’ll get some rest tonight.

    I took one Level II at 0600 with a post-wo protein shake. The appetite suppresant aspect is just now beginning to wear off, but the energy is still here. Even with the low sleep I'm not really yawning or feeling heavy-eyed... yet. And that's with being in boring meetings all morning.

    I will dose another right around noon and probably skip my afternoon bottle of coffee.





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    I took another Level II pill at 12:00 when I had some of my lunch. Before I finished (approx 4oz chicken and 1/4 rice) I started feeling real full. I felt energetic in a very clean way, so much so that I thought I could have some coffee. And I should not have. lol. I had quite a caffeine buzz for about 30 min's, and now I'm back 'down', but still energetic and surprisingly not real tired. I'm thinking I may try two in the AM tomorrow, but maybe it's a little too soon if I'm having a great response with just one cap.

    I don't get that 'funny' feeling that I get from ECA, and I also don't feel cranky like I do from ECA.

    I also forgot to mention this morning that I do not get "pill burps" from Level II. That's always a plus.

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    lack of sleep can really take the wind out of your sails, I know man. Hope you get a better night in tonight!!
    Thanks man, I'll take a Tylenol PM maybe just to make sure.
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    Amazing at 1 cap you feel full. Next stop is "shredded"ville!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Amazing at 1 cap you feel full. Next stop is "shredded"ville!
    Lol. There may be a few stops before that one...
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    [QUOTE=RegisterJr;4282771]I took another Level II pill at 12:00 when I had some of my lunch. Before I finished (approx 4oz chicken and 1/4 rice) I started feeling real full. I felt energetic in a very clean way, so much so that I thought I could have some coffee. And I should not have. lol. I had quite a caffeine buzz for about 30 min's, and now I'm back 'down', but still energetic and surprisingly not real tired. I'm thinking I may try two in the AM tomorrow, but maybe it's a little too soon if I'm having a great response with just one cap.

    I don't get that 'funny' feeling that I get from ECA, and I also don't feel cranky like I do from ECA.

    I also forgot to mention this morning that I do not get "pill burps" from Level II. That's always a plus.



    so...you are taking level II WITH food?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    so...you are taking level II WITH food?
    The second one I take a few minutes before eating, and the first I took with a shake post-WO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    The second one I take a few minutes before eating, and the first I took with a shake post-WO.
    post?

    there i go again.....different paths, same destination, lol. repeat 10 times then start over again....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    post?

    there i go again.....different paths, same destination, lol. repeat 10 times then start over again....
    Lol. I'm experimenting. I have time to try them sidewards and backwards too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Lol. I'm experimenting. I have time to try them sidewards and backwards too.
    lol....we can agree on 1 thing:


    level II kicks appetites arse!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lol....we can agree on 1 thing:


    level II kicks appetites arse!!!
    It does. I have a minimum number of cals I have to hit and it's difficult to do that. I'll take that over wanting to overeat, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post

    It does. I have a minimum number of cals I have to hit and it's difficult to do that. I'll take that over wanting to overeat, though.
    Yeah absolutely! I have a huge appetite and it makes me absolutely miserable when I'm cutting. This stuff is an absolute god send for me
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    Level II is by far the best appetite suppressant that I have taken. Used to be the OG OEP, but that Level II stomps OEP for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Level II is by far the best appetite suppressant that I have taken. Used to be the OG OEP, but that Level II stomps OEP for sure
    Oh absolutely. Oep never did jack for me tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    Oh absolutely. Oep never did jack for me tbh
    I never got to find out. Had a tub of powder but they recalled it. I tried a couple samples, but never taking more than 1...
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    Kiddo had a band concert last night, so we didn't get in until late. I didn't have a whole lotta time to post; I tried to rush to bed so I felt rested today.

    Yesterday's cals: 2,247





    Weight isn't worth noting, I haven't had a BM since Sunday (odd. Longest streak I can remember).

    I didn't sleep well last night so I stayed in bed and had a 'rest' day, in which I didn't rest.

    I dosed 1 cap at 0745 (fasted), and am going to see how long my appetite holds off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Kiddo had a band concert last night, so we didn't get in until late. I didn't have a whole lotta time to post; I tried to rush to bed so I felt rested today.

    Yesterday's cals: 2,247





    Weight isn't worth noting, I haven't had a BM since Sunday (odd. Longest streak I can remember).

    I didn't sleep well last night so I stayed in bed and had a 'rest' day, in which I didn't rest.

    I dosed 1 cap at 0745 (fasted), and am going to see how long my appetite holds off...
    no BM since sunday?? probably eating too much cheese!!! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    no BM since sunday?? probably eating too much cheese!!! lol
    Ha! Not this time. I'm just having some sprinkles of blue cheese.
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    Just took my second cap for the day. I'm only at 540 cals right now, and it's that high because I stopped by the office, smelled food, and was reminded to eat something. My appetite was non-existant. I'm supposed to be around 1200-1300 by now.
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    What is the equivalent dosage between the caps and powder? I am guessing 1 cap is like a half scoop?
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    This is a very detailed log . I find also no need for coffee on this
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