Let's take this up to a whole notha' LEVEL! Level II (sp)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post

    Swanky - porfavor....send me the recipe...sounds awesome....

    Hows tricks oogly
    Literally its just a package of chipotle lime sausage and a can of soup! Lol
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post

    Swanky - porfavor....send me the recipe...sounds awesome....

    Hows tricks oogly
    Tricks? The cereal? I hear it's not for rabbits, but I feed them it anyways.

    Things are going well, I feel ashamed for not giving a full play by play log but to be honest my diet has been crap and I had taken a week or so off from the gym.

    Fact of the matter is, Level II, even in a lazy bastard like me, is working quite well. I am impressed as I usually forego all proprietary blend supplements as I tend to be on 100 other things and fear interactions.
    Everyone always goes to the ECA stack or clenbuterol when making diet pill comparisons or simple debates.

    So far where Level II wins:

    No cardiac damage (clenbuterol)
    No jitters (both)
    No massive attenuation (both)
    Appetite suppression (I get hungry on both clen and EC,)
    LEGAL
    Lasting a while at least with me
    I CAN SLEEP (I get restless on clen)
    Clen also makes me feel overall terrible which is why I never got past a week on it.
    Oh and guess what? No increase in BP or excess increase in resting heart rate

    Tested over a three day period upon waking:
    BP : 130/80
    BP: 123/74
    BP: 120/60

    resting heart rate always wavering around 60bpm

    The absolute LOWEST I have ever gotten my blood pressure was 90/60 with a 51 resting heart rate at 171lbs running 3-11 miles a day and fighting 1-2 hours a day (fight prep)

    I suppose the only downside is the lack of clinical testing showing the actual amounts of bodyfat lost in a controlled vs tested group, but it's a supplement, not a pharmaceutical.
    "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates
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  3. Turn the negative into a positive....make resolutions a reality!
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  4. Not sure how everyone is done with their bottles already. my bottle is lasting a while and I started first...
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Not sure how everyone is done with their bottles already. my bottle is lasting a while and I started first...
    I still have some left too. At least another week.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post

    I still have some left too. At least another week.
    haha same here.

    Couldn't hit the gym last night, girlfriend had a major family emergency so I did my duty.

    Wednesday I felt great, got a heavy lift in and an hour of cardio

    Tuesday I did a heavy full body lift
    and

    Monday I focused on a lot of chest work focusing on power rather than "bodybuilding"
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Turn the negative into a positive....make resolutions a reality!
    I don't do resolutions lol I just do.

    my first fight I cut from 220lbs down to 168lbs.

    after that I bulked back up to 190 and since I haven't had the need to exactly lose "weight" I've been hanging around my natural weight
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    I don't do resolutions lol I just do.

    my first fight I cut from 220lbs down to 168lbs.

    after that I bulked back up to 190 and since I haven't had the need to exactly lose "weight" I've been hanging around my natural weight
    That's a big cut dude. How long did that take?
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    That's a big cut dude. How long did that take?
    Yeah it was a war haha did that in about 6 or 7 months of strict dieting. I was running 3-10 miles a day and lifting 5-6 days a week.

    Got down to a 28in waist. Sorry didn't mean to sound like a douche by the way haha.


    Anyway today I weighted in at 200lbs even. Looking lean, feeling mean!

    Cardio is still up,
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    Yeah it was a war haha did that in about 6 or 7 months of strict dieting. I was running 3-10 miles a day and lifting 5-6 days a week.

    Got down to a 28in waist. Sorry didn't mean to sound like a douche by the way haha.

    Anyway today I weighted in at 200lbs even. Looking lean, feeling mean!

    Cardio is still up,
    Wha? How did you sound like a douche? 28in waist is crazy thin!
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  11. Phenomenal, as you know the hardest thing is losing the weight, always seems a little easier to maintain.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Phenomenal, as you know the hardest thing is losing the weight, always seems a little easier to maintain.
    That's the truth!!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    Wha? How did you sound like a douche? 28in waist is crazy thin!
    Thank you! It was fun but a lot of work!
    & Just making sure I covered my bases haha.



    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Phenomenal, as you know the hardest thing is losing the weight, always seems a little easier to maintain.

    Yep! Keeping a diet up and not drinking..ever, was very hard but worth it!


    Went from this lard ball at about 230 :

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    To this at 168lbs:

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    Actually was closer to 8 months from the first to the second.

    It was an uphill battle, my family likes to sabotage my diets haha


    That being said today I came in at 199lbs, looking pretty vascular. Got a very short workout in as I'm coming down with something. Tomorrow will be a full on day, dieting has been pretty damn clean, my dinner consisted of some veggies and tuna as I need to cut back on the calories.


    I am noticing however that my feet get really cold when I take 3 pills so I'm going back to one or two.
    "No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates

  14. I don't think I'm ready yet for 3 caps.

    I hear ya on the uphill battle with dieting. My wife just told me this morning that I HAVE to finish these little sausages because she doesn't want them to go bad. She liked my idea of food prepping for the week, so she now does it it for her and kiddo with whatever they're eating. Then, when they don't eat it I have to. Sheesh. Makes dieting hard.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I don't think I'm ready yet for 3 caps.

    I hear ya on the uphill battle with dieting. My wife just told me this morning that I HAVE to finish these little sausages because she doesn't want them to go bad. She liked my idea of food prepping for the week, so she now does it it for her and kiddo with whatever they're eating. Then, when they don't eat it I have to. Sheesh. Makes dieting hard.

    Hahaha! That's funny. I'm part hispanic so any time I would start leaning out my mother would decide to cook me a heart stopping meal or pastry.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Hahaha! That's funny. I'm part hispanic so any time I would start leaning out my mother would decide to cook me a heart stopping meal or pastry.
    Gotta love Mother's, when I am lean my Mom says I need to fill out BUT when I am bigger/plumper she says I look great.....guess it's all relative
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  17. Oh laaaawdy caught the flu this week.

    Been eating clean though and looking lean and mean!

    Only gripe is I have to use the restroom all the time! haha
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  18. That sucks, but it is a great way to drop some pounds fast!
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Oh laaaawdy caught the flu this week.

    Been eating clean though and looking lean and mean!

    Only gripe is I have to use the restroom all the time! haha
    Definitely sucks, wife and I had a bad bug a few weeks back. Vomitting first day then maybe a week before stomach was solid. Was a good way to detox my system from any and all supps.

    How are you today?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Oh laaaawdy caught the flu this week.

    Been eating clean though and looking lean and mean!

    Only gripe is I have to use the restroom all the time! haha
    Oh damn get well dude
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Definitely sucks, wife and I had a bad bug a few weeks back. Vomitting first day then maybe a week before stomach was solid. Was a good way to detox my system from any and all supps.

    How are you today?
    Feeling alright, thanks for asking, started the day off with 3 Lvl II pills haha.

    Yesterday was an odd day, I took my normal doses of lvl II but I had a wake to go to and really didn't eat the whole day. Had some glyco chews stashed in my pocket but by the time I got home, I was too tired and just passed out.

    I usually eat a crap load when I get sick but lvl II is keeping my appetite down haha.
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  22. 3 at one time? Holy cow. Yeah, I imagine is eat nada with that dose.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    Feeling alright, thanks for asking, started the day off with 3 Lvl II pills haha.

    Yesterday was an odd day, I took my normal doses of lvl II but I had a wake to go to and really didn't eat the whole day. Had some glyco chews stashed in my pocket but by the time I got home, I was too tired and just passed out.

    I usually eat a crap load when I get sick but lvl II is keeping my appetite down haha.
    Woah you tweaking or what lol
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    Woah you tweaking or what lol
    hahaha I've noticed the energy lasts me pretty much the entire day, so I just take most of my dose in the AM then have a pre-workout around 9pm when I lift.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    hahaha I've noticed the energy lasts me pretty much the entire day, so I just take most of my dose in the AM then have a pre-workout around 9pm when I lift.
    Holy cow. What time do you get to sleep after that?
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post

    Holy cow. What time do you get to sleep after that?
    ... not sure to be honest haha. I usually clock out at around 2am then wake up at 6/7
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    ... not sure to be honest haha. I usually clock out at around 2am then wake up at 6/7
    That's about the same amount of sleep I get, around 5 hours or so. I'm asleep around 1030 most nights up at 345
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    That's about the same amount of sleep I get, around 5 hours or so. I'm asleep around 1030 most nights up at 345
    I'm too old for that. I try and fall asleep between 9-9:30, up at 0330. 8:45pm on a good day.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I'm too old for that. I try and fall asleep between 9-9:30, up at 0330. 8:45pm on a good day.
    i wish i could get to bed that early. the kids and wife wont have any of it though. lol
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    i wish i could get to bed that early. the kids and wife wont have any of it though. lol
    Mine fight it too sometimes.
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