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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I agree here. Level II is great with appetite suppression.
    I hope it really helps you achieve your goals. I cant wait to try it for Pre Contest, see the difference in use. Also I plan to switch from powder to pills for pre comp. or maybe a combo if I can handle it. Powder for cardio, which is usually about 500am till 545 am (so I will dose about 0430am) and then dose the pills around 11am. and it will still carry me through my evening workout.
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    I hate the holidays!!! Never have time for anything and my renovations are so scattered.

    Update:

    Oddly enough my dosage has dropped back down to 1-2 a day. Appetite is suppressed and I'm down to 201lbs even though my diet has been a wreck!

    As for my workouts, the only time I've had is a 2-5 mile run every day. Have yet to get back to lifting especially with my odd gym hours.

    Stuff is great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    I hate the holidays!!! Never have time for anything and my renovations are so scattered.

    Update:

    Oddly enough my dosage has dropped back down to 1-2 a day. Appetite is suppressed and I'm down to 201lbs even though my diet has been a wreck!

    As for my workouts, the only time I've had is a 2-5 mile run every day. Have yet to get back to lifting especially with my odd gym hours.

    Stuff is great!
    Wow! Doing pretty well then! I know the holidays are hectic. If I didn't have my home gym and one at work I wouldn't be able to get my lifts in either!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    Wow! Doing pretty well then! I know the holidays are hectic. If I didn't have my home gym and one at work I wouldn't be able to get my lifts in either!
    Yeah things have been insane. Went back up to 3 today but I got hardly any sleep and the first two were at 8am.

    Third was my preworkout. Went well, lifts were junk so not even going to waste time posting haha. Most of my workout went to helping a down on his luck fellow walk a few blocks and feed his pup. I'm a sucker for dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    Yeah things have been insane. Went back up to 3 today but I got hardly any sleep and the first two were at 8am.

    Third was my preworkout. Went well, lifts were junk so not even going to waste time posting haha. Most of my workout went to helping a down on his luck fellow walk a few blocks and feed his pup. I'm a sucker for dogs.
    Can't blow it out of the park every time man, don't sweat it!! Nice thing you did there though, good man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    Can't blow it out of the park every time man, don't sweat it!! Nice thing you did there though, good man!
    very true thank you!

    Update : yesterday I had a pretty good Deadlift session. Forgot my belt but pulled 505lbs for 4 reps.


    Currently 200lb a even and feeling pretty great at 2 pills a day.

    Diet has been floating around 3k calories since I'm a fat bastard and meeting a lot of new people for lunch/dinner. Can't be rude
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    very true thank you!

    Update : yesterday I had a pretty good Deadlift session. Forgot my belt but pulled 505lbs for 4 reps.


    Currently 200lb a even and feeling pretty great at 2 pills a day.

    Diet has been floating around 3k calories since I'm a fat bastard and meeting a lot of new people for lunch/dinner. Can't be rude
    At 3k on workout days and 200lbs you're probably right around maintenance so that's really not bad. I've been around 2000-2400/day and steadily losing fat and i hover between 207-209 right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    At 3k on workout days and 200lbs you're probably right around maintenance so that's really not bad. I've been around 2000-2400/day and steadily losing fat and i hover between 207-209 right now
    Yeah just about. Muscle mass is up, side fat is down. I still have a lot of the bottle left so I'll be cutting calories lower this week.

    I'm mostly bloated right now due to sodium so I probably am floating around 198 actually
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    Yeah just about. Muscle mass is up, side fat is down. I still have a lot of the bottle left so I'll be cutting calories lower this week.

    I'm mostly bloated right now due to sodium so I probably am floating around 198 actually
    I've got that going on right now. I've been eating a lot of chicken sausage and soups. Probably 2-3x the recommended salt per day. I drink a ton of water but I may start up some potassium today too
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    I've got that going on right now. I've been eating a lot of chicken sausage and soups. Probably 2-3x the recommended salt per day. I drink a ton of water but I may start up some potassium today too
    aye not too shabby sounds like a tasty diet!


    Update!

    still have great energy.

    diet is currently:

    Breakfast:
    50g of protein with 2 table spoons of peanut butter

    Snack : Green beans and peas

    Lunch: chicken breast, brown rice and a protein shake.

    Pre workout :

    200g of carbs and 10mg of biotin with one scoop of hemavol

    Dinner:

    Depends on how I am feeling. lately I have pork chops and rice


    things are going well!
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    Today I had an amazing chest workout. weights were mediocre but the pump and feel were through the roof! Looking leaner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    aye not too shabby sounds like a tasty diet!

    Update!

    still have great energy.

    diet is currently:

    Breakfast:
    50g of protein with 2 table spoons of peanut butter

    Snack : Green beans and peas

    Lunch: chicken breast, brown rice and a protein shake.

    Pre workout :

    200g of carbs and 10mg of biotin with one scoop of hemavol

    Dinner:

    Depends on how I am feeling. lately I have pork chops and rice

    things are going well!
    Its been really tasty. I've found these chipotle lime chicken sausages and add them to progress chicken and cheese enchilada soup. Absolutely amazing and only like 500 calories for a whole can of soup and a whole package of sausage
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    Its been really tasty. I've found these chipotle lime chicken sausages and add them to progress chicken and cheese enchilada soup. Absolutely amazing and only like 500 calories for a whole can of soup and a whole package of sausage

    Sounds great I'll have to try this out. Today through some magical power I weighted in at 207 but I'm a lot leaner.


    Started my morning with a tablespoon of coconut oil


    lunch I had a spinach and egg omelet with some toast and bacon

    snack I had a bunch of prunes (potassium and fiber)

    Right now Im eating a subway chicken breast footlong. Easy calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    Sounds great I'll have to try this out. Today through some magical power I weighted in at 207 but I'm a lot leaner.

    Started my morning with a tablespoon of coconut oil

    lunch I had a spinach and egg omelet with some toast and bacon

    snack I had a bunch of prunes (potassium and fiber)

    Right now Im eating a subway chicken breast footlong. Easy calories.
    Nice, 207 is exactly where I'm at right now too. I'm really comfortable right around this 200-210 range
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    Nice, 207 is exactly where I'm at right now too. I'm really comfortable right around this 200-210 range
    nice! Haha yeah this bottle is lasting me. Today once again started off with coconut oil and my one level two.

    Might toss in an AI but eh I'll wait till I'm done with the bottle to keep this accurate.


    stuff is great with appetite suppression

    I have used phentarmine, Ephedrine, and a million other things for **** and giggles , this stuff is great.
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    You wanting to take an AI to push water out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    You wanting to take an AI to push water out?
    No not really i just tend to have rather high estro levels so lowering e3 tends to assist me dieting
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    No AI yet I'll wait till the log is over. I'm back up to three a day. I will have to count the pills to see where I am at.

    Still 207 but lean and mean

    Bringing in 2500 calories mostly fat and protein with a major carb up prior to lifting!



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    Flat but I'm leaner than where I started! pretty impressed considering my crap diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    Its been really tasty. I've found these chipotle lime chicken sausages and add them to progress chicken and cheese enchilada soup. Absolutely amazing and only like 500 calories for a whole can of soup and a whole package of sausage
    Swanky - porfavor....send me the recipe...sounds awesome....

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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post

    Swanky - porfavor....send me the recipe...sounds awesome....

    Hows tricks oogly
    Literally its just a package of chipotle lime sausage and a can of soup! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post

    Swanky - porfavor....send me the recipe...sounds awesome....

    Hows tricks oogly
    Tricks? The cereal? I hear it's not for rabbits, but I feed them it anyways.

    Things are going well, I feel ashamed for not giving a full play by play log but to be honest my diet has been crap and I had taken a week or so off from the gym.

    Fact of the matter is, Level II, even in a lazy bastard like me, is working quite well. I am impressed as I usually forego all proprietary blend supplements as I tend to be on 100 other things and fear interactions.
    Everyone always goes to the ECA stack or clenbuterol when making diet pill comparisons or simple debates.

    So far where Level II wins:

    No cardiac damage (clenbuterol)
    No jitters (both)
    No massive attenuation (both)
    Appetite suppression (I get hungry on both clen and EC,)
    LEGAL
    Lasting a while at least with me
    I CAN SLEEP (I get restless on clen)
    Clen also makes me feel overall terrible which is why I never got past a week on it.
    Oh and guess what? No increase in BP or excess increase in resting heart rate

    Tested over a three day period upon waking:
    BP : 130/80
    BP: 123/74
    BP: 120/60

    resting heart rate always wavering around 60bpm

    The absolute LOWEST I have ever gotten my blood pressure was 90/60 with a 51 resting heart rate at 171lbs running 3-11 miles a day and fighting 1-2 hours a day (fight prep)

    I suppose the only downside is the lack of clinical testing showing the actual amounts of bodyfat lost in a controlled vs tested group, but it's a supplement, not a pharmaceutical.
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    Not sure how everyone is done with their bottles already. my bottle is lasting a while and I started first...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Not sure how everyone is done with their bottles already. my bottle is lasting a while and I started first...
    I still have some left too. At least another week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post

    I still have some left too. At least another week.
    haha same here.

    Couldn't hit the gym last night, girlfriend had a major family emergency so I did my duty.

    Wednesday I felt great, got a heavy lift in and an hour of cardio

    Tuesday I did a heavy full body lift
    and

    Monday I focused on a lot of chest work focusing on power rather than "bodybuilding"
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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Turn the negative into a positive....make resolutions a reality!
    I don't do resolutions lol I just do.

    my first fight I cut from 220lbs down to 168lbs.

    after that I bulked back up to 190 and since I haven't had the need to exactly lose "weight" I've been hanging around my natural weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    I don't do resolutions lol I just do.

    my first fight I cut from 220lbs down to 168lbs.

    after that I bulked back up to 190 and since I haven't had the need to exactly lose "weight" I've been hanging around my natural weight
    That's a big cut dude. How long did that take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post

    That's a big cut dude. How long did that take?
    Yeah it was a war haha did that in about 6 or 7 months of strict dieting. I was running 3-10 miles a day and lifting 5-6 days a week.

    Got down to a 28in waist. Sorry didn't mean to sound like a douche by the way haha.


    Anyway today I weighted in at 200lbs even. Looking lean, feeling mean!

    Cardio is still up,
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post

    Yeah it was a war haha did that in about 6 or 7 months of strict dieting. I was running 3-10 miles a day and lifting 5-6 days a week.

    Got down to a 28in waist. Sorry didn't mean to sound like a douche by the way haha.

    Anyway today I weighted in at 200lbs even. Looking lean, feeling mean!

    Cardio is still up,
    Wha? How did you sound like a douche? 28in waist is crazy thin!
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    Phenomenal, as you know the hardest thing is losing the weight, always seems a little easier to maintain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Phenomenal, as you know the hardest thing is losing the weight, always seems a little easier to maintain.
    That's the truth!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSwanks View Post
    Wha? How did you sound like a douche? 28in waist is crazy thin!
    Thank you! It was fun but a lot of work!
    & Just making sure I covered my bases haha.



    Quote Originally Posted by double s View Post
    Phenomenal, as you know the hardest thing is losing the weight, always seems a little easier to maintain.

    Yep! Keeping a diet up and not drinking..ever, was very hard but worth it!


    Went from this lard ball at about 230 :

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    Actually was closer to 8 months from the first to the second.

    It was an uphill battle, my family likes to sabotage my diets haha


    That being said today I came in at 199lbs, looking pretty vascular. Got a very short workout in as I'm coming down with something. Tomorrow will be a full on day, dieting has been pretty damn clean, my dinner consisted of some veggies and tuna as I need to cut back on the calories.


    I am noticing however that my feet get really cold when I take 3 pills so I'm going back to one or two.
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    I don't think I'm ready yet for 3 caps.

    I hear ya on the uphill battle with dieting. My wife just told me this morning that I HAVE to finish these little sausages because she doesn't want them to go bad. She liked my idea of food prepping for the week, so she now does it it for her and kiddo with whatever they're eating. Then, when they don't eat it I have to. Sheesh. Makes dieting hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I don't think I'm ready yet for 3 caps.

    I hear ya on the uphill battle with dieting. My wife just told me this morning that I HAVE to finish these little sausages because she doesn't want them to go bad. She liked my idea of food prepping for the week, so she now does it it for her and kiddo with whatever they're eating. Then, when they don't eat it I have to. Sheesh. Makes dieting hard.

    Hahaha! That's funny. I'm part hispanic so any time I would start leaning out my mother would decide to cook me a heart stopping meal or pastry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Hahaha! That's funny. I'm part hispanic so any time I would start leaning out my mother would decide to cook me a heart stopping meal or pastry.
    Gotta love Mother's, when I am lean my Mom says I need to fill out BUT when I am bigger/plumper she says I look great.....guess it's all relative
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    Oh laaaawdy caught the flu this week.

    Been eating clean though and looking lean and mean!

    Only gripe is I have to use the restroom all the time! haha
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    That sucks, but it is a great way to drop some pounds fast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Oh laaaawdy caught the flu this week.

    Been eating clean though and looking lean and mean!

    Only gripe is I have to use the restroom all the time! haha
    Definitely sucks, wife and I had a bad bug a few weeks back. Vomitting first day then maybe a week before stomach was solid. Was a good way to detox my system from any and all supps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Oh laaaawdy caught the flu this week.

    Been eating clean though and looking lean and mean!

    Only gripe is I have to use the restroom all the time! haha
    Oh damn get well dude
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