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    Killed those wheels! I'm impressed Chefbo. Sounds like EpiSmash is doing it's job. Keep a vigilant eye on the BP. Keep killing it!

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    gonna take a couple days off epi smash back pumps are so bad i can barely work. taurine and all nothing is helping. stopped yesterday after first dose. i will jump back on saturday or sunday and se what happens i think i have 7 days left in the bottle. no since in trying to work out if i can't and hurt myself.

    now since they aren't bothering me so bad this morning i did GVT chest and back . supplemented pulldowns for pullups to give the back a break.

    decline db press 40lbs 10x10
    incline db flyes 40lbs 3x10

    lat pull-downs 134;bs 10x10
    one arm db rows 40lbs 3x10

    ab work tonight crunches, bicycle twists, planks 3x25 each

    3 eggs, ribeye(4 ounces) hash browns, 1 oatmeal pancake preworkout drink and coffee

    lunch- 1/2 cup brown rice, ham and swiss on whole wheat ornage slices.

    dinner will be grilled sirloin of pork with mushrooms, brown rice, satueed mixed greens with red wine vinaigrette

    finally got my wife to listen to me about eating. she gained 14 lbs since september and is furious. so i told her to lay off the bananas and breakfast bars in the mornings if she isn't going to do any cardio . i convinced her to let me make her protein shakes to take with her to work as meal replacements for breakfast. i explained how her body has been in a catabolic state all night and she need protein first not carbs. i also talked to my kids about their metabolism during the day. and we are going to make healthier choices for snacks they have during th day at school. teach them right as children and they will grow to be responsible healthy adults. i believe i finally have my wife coming around to my way of thinking. also bought here so diet accelerator powder off Nutraplanet to get her through the day.

    they have a helluva sale going on on things we all use daily not just preworkouts, protein powders and phs. great prices on agmatine, green tea, yohimbe cla/alc for next to nothing. check it out if you get a chance.( no i am not getting anything for promoting them, lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefbo View Post
    gonna take a couple days off epi smash back pumps are so bad i can barely work. taurine and all nothing is helping. stopped yesterday after first dose. i will jump back on saturday or sunday and se what happens i think i have 7 days left in the bottle. no since in trying to work out if i can't and hurt myself.

    now since they aren't bothering me so bad this morning i did GVT chest and back . supplemented pulldowns for pullups to give the back a break.

    decline db press 40lbs 10x10
    incline db flyes 40lbs 3x10

    lat pull-downs 134;bs 10x10
    one arm db rows 40lbs 3x10

    ab work tonight crunches, bicycle twists, planks 3x25 each

    3 eggs, ribeye(4 ounces) hash browns, 1 oatmeal pancake preworkout drink and coffee

    lunch- 1/2 cup brown rice, ham and swiss on whole wheat ornage slices.

    dinner will be grilled sirloin of pork with mushrooms, brown rice, satueed mixed greens with red wine vinaigrette

    finally got my wife to listen to me about eating. she gained 14 lbs since september and is furious. so i told her to lay off the bananas and breakfast bars in the mornings if she isn't going to do any cardio . i convinced her to let me make her protein shakes to take with her to work as meal replacements for breakfast. i explained how her body has been in a catabolic state all night and she need protein first not carbs. i also talked to my kids about their metabolism during the day. and we are going to make healthier choices for snacks they have during th day at school. teach them right as children and they will grow to be responsible healthy adults. i believe i finally have my wife coming around to my way of thinking. also bought here so diet accelerator powder off Nutraplanet to get her through the day.

    they have a helluva sale going on on things we all use daily not just preworkouts, protein powders and phs. great prices on agmatine, green tea, yohimbe cla/alc for next to nothing. check it out if you get a chance.( no i am not getting anything for promoting them, lol).
    What's your water intake looking like e/d?
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    Up your water intake and take more magnesium and potassium! It will help.. Something must be wrong with your diet, I've never heard that someone gets too painful pumps from Epi at such low dose and I don't think hexadrone makes pumps that much worse.
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    Hey Chefbo, how much taurine are you taking? I didn't get any relief from the back pumps until 6g per day dosing 3 in the morning and 3 in the evening.
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    I am at a gallon a day. I've got 500-mg tabs so I take 10 spilt up.so six has been the lucky number.I'll give it a shot. I may just be prone to them guys.I've had this issue before at low doses before. Remember I am 52 .that may make a difference.
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    Got back on the epi smash yesterday.little to no back issues.blood pressure shot up last night at a movie so bad I almost threw up.I have to make sure I keep on my meds during these runs.took yesterday off from training to give my back a rest. Overall this hss been a great run aside from the back issues which could be a personal problem for me. Appetite had been usual except for the holidays. Upper torso has swelled up some.did get some belly fat back as expected. I would expect if I had something like alpha max or dmz to bridge this I would gain so much more. Some dbol would have probably kicked this in the ass. I will do a detailed review next week when finished. I will follow this with my pct setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefbo View Post
    Got back on the epi smash yesterday.little to no back issues.blood pressure shot up last night at a movie so bad I almost threw up.I have to make sure I keep on my meds during these runs.took yesterday off from training to give my back a rest. Overall this hss been a great run aside from the back issues which could be a personal problem for me. Appetite had been usual except for the holidays. Upper torso has swelled up some.did get some belly fat back as expected. I would expect if I had something like alpha max or dmz to bridge this I would gain so much more. Some dbol would have probably kicked this in the ass. I will do a detailed review next week when finished. I will follow this with my pct setup.
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    NO TAURINE LEFT , BUT NO PUMPS. SLIGHT TIGHTNESS UPON WAKING BUT THAT IS IT. GONNA TRY LEGS OR SHOULDERS TODAY IF I CAN GET OUT . WEATHER IS GOING TO GET BAD LATER ON. NOT COMPLAINING THOUGH COMPARED TO ALOT OF YOU . BE CAREFUL OUT THERE THIS WEEK.

    SHOULD FINISH EPI SMASH FRIDAY IF MY COUNT IS RIGHT ON THE BOTTLE. P BOLD IS DONE NOT THAT THAT MATTERS. TWO MONTHS OFF AFTER THIS THEN ON TO THE NEXT ONE . HOPE THE MONEY COMES TO GET IT DONE RIGHT. HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND GUYS . I'LL POST LATER ON IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO LOG.
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    delts and triceps today.
    Took two divz max tbs and my epi smash before work. Hit the y about 2thirty.
    Warm up
    Bentover raises
    3-10,9,8-25,35,40
    Superset
    Fronts
    Same

    Incline rear raises
    3-15,15, failure
    25,25,25 nothing for 3" reps

    Triceps
    Pushdowns
    4-15 . 85 2 down 4-5 up

    One arm cable extension
    25 2x15. 1x15@35 dropset to failure

    Close grip bench press
    4x10
    95,85,65,45
    Great pump nice vascularity no issues.
    Cold as hell here.
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    bo like the hulk is ready to smash with blackstone labs!


    Nice work chef!
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    went top and bottom yesterday .chest and legs

    took 2 diva max test booster and my epi smash upon waking with my coffee

    before workout had 3 big blue beta alanine tabs and preworkout mix

    front squat super set back squat rapid pack constant tension

    4x10 on both 135 lbs
    calf raises on smith 135 4 sets 40 reps each
    one legged calf raises on leg press sled weight 120 lbs
    4 sets 35 or until failure

    chest
    flat barbell bench 5 x10 135
    triset
    incline dumbbell bench 40 for same rep/set
    incline fly 25's slow and hold

    didn't think I did that much to my legs when I left the gym until I started ab work at home at night.
    leg raises about killed me only got 3 sets done

    did crunches , ankle touch, scissors and cross legged crunch holds for 25 each 3 sets

    taking whey protein again to up my caloric intake daily, even got the wife taking them instead of carbs in the morning.

    seeing some more definition in my shoulder region . going to start hitting the traps more to round out the top of my frame. I can finally start seeing all my work pay off. can't wait to I start to shred down for summer. any suggestion anyone following me has to offer I am all ears.

    got to get these wheels on track with the rest of my body though . hard gainer on the lower part. Back pumps have ceased except for the pain I got doing suats but I could have been in the wrong form . I have ahard time with my shoulder problems controlling the bar. wish I could afford a draper bar attachment.

    two more days of Epi smash left hopefully be able to post a review sunday. thanks again Neck for choosing me , just don't know if I did it justice or not.
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    tried out Larry Scott's Tri series on arms today and ring of fire on midsection

    got one more day of epi smash left . already started my test booster will get full pct rolling on monday. Want to thank Neck at Blackstone labs for this opportunity to try out this product. i can see some difference in my appearance and i didn't train all that much due to the holidays and work commitments. i'll post photos tomorrow with final review.

    3 exercises or 3 sets 6-10 reps each all on the scott bench
    it may not look like much but let me tell you i never finished all the reps on any of the sets for arms i was usually short 1 or 2. amazing

    really isolates the bicep muscles (all three) and the forearms . they are killing me right now and this was over 4 hours ago

    also did his shoulder routine

    same set up 3 exercises using the same movement on each

    arms
    scott bench dumbbell two arm curls
    30 lbs 3sets of 6-10
    8,6,5


    barbell curls Scott bench (Olympic bar)
    65 lbs 3 sets 6-10
    6,6,5 drop set with just the bar for 4


    reverse ez bar curls Scott bench
    65 (big weight what Larry suggests) 3 sets 6-10
    8,6,6

    lying tricep press
    65 lbs 3 sets 6

    [B]shouders[/B

    standing shoulder press -pinkies up
    3 sets 10
    40

    standing lateral raises
    40 lbs 3 sets of 10

    bentover lateral raises
    same as a bove

    midsection ring of fire
    for those who have never done this it takes a few times to get used to it. once i got the rhythm it became really easy .the main thing to do is feel the muscle contracting. i am not going to go into a total explaination of this exercise (google larry scott ring of fire )

    main thing is use a lat machine and attach a tricep pushdown rope to it for tension. set it on a wieght between 60-100 pounds depending on body size and strength. the other thing is to pull in your lower abs below your belt line. kind of like a sex hump if you will. then just like a crunch pull down or flex the total mid section and hold it for 20 seconds or it goes into full cramp. that is the key full cramp . back away and shake out the lactic acid that has built up . you can adjsut your feet on either side to it different area of the abs , obliques, intercostals etc. just read the articles. once you have it down you can do it in the shower or by using a wall of post in your home. Bruce Lee did isometric exercises like this to shred and strengthen his mid section. that is why he had the physique he did.

    i have found this old school training is great and wish i would have looked back at it earlier. Most of these guys built mass on bodies that were genetically inferior with no help from supplements or steriods. just nutrition and plan old hard work. this cat one 5 titles in 5 years with training like this.

    Bill Pearl, Larry Scott ,, vince Gironda, steve reeve all did it this way. big weight and alot of time. not knocking any supplements or companies they most definitely aid the ones of us that don't have super genetics, they aid in recovery and endurance for us older fellows . I think what the young guns miss is 2gs of test of 500mg of tren aren't gonna do diddly if you aren't training hard and right. eating correctly and getting the required amount of rest.

    i know not alot of people followed this log and that is a shame for blackstone. these are done for their benefit to check out there products on the average joe.
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    Nice job in here Chefbo. You've done some work in spite of the lack of time.
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    thanks brother that means alot.
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    ok final review of Blackstone labs EPI Smash

    let me first thnk the company rep The Neck for choosing me to log one of their fabulous products. I have been a fan of Blackstone for some years.

    overall rating out of 5 is a 3 . I started out at 178 and I am ending about the same. my weight went up and down but it was the holidays and that was to be expected. I trained hard but was out a few days because of back problems.

    the 3 is not because it doesn't work because it does, the sides were just to much for me to endure even with what I heard "low dosed epistane" . Everyone is different and react in the same manner. I have issues with my back pumps regardless of how much taurine I take. and I took it until I had diarrhea so there you go.

    on the other hand I am 52 and it could be an age thing so that might be something to mention to older people wanting to use this product.

    strength and size - pretty clean as far as water gain. I never got puffy or swole, but did get bigger in my upper torso. not by inches just by appearance. Strength I couldn't off hand say the weights got lighter or things got easier so I would say the same there.

    Blackstone has quality products and they work , maybe just not for me or at the dosage I was taking. maybe I need to have a test base backing them because of my age . I don't know. I'd like to see what would happen if I did. maybe some dbol to kick start it. but They wanted straight up results on what their product did and that is what I am giving them.

    give it a try it may work for you , I am sure it will .
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    posted review on blackstone company forum
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    I'm currently using epi smash just started today. I had just got off blackstone product meth-drol extreme.
  

  
 

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