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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I need to try rows before the pull-ups next week too. I'm usually spent by the time the rows come up.
    Yes there are some exercises that you are just too exhausted to do after the big 10..
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Man I know what you are saying. I would love to be able to slam some protein with my Pre, cause the pre isn't going anywhere. I have to have my stims!
    It takes less than 10 minutes for your pre to get into the intestines tops, take it 30 minutes prior wait 10 minutes have a scoop of protein problem solved. If your pre has creatine this will be better anyway since creatine uptake takes longer than the stims...
    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Will check your thread to see how last night went. Yes it also reads to go 6 rotations and then change things to 10x6 with a 5-0-x tempo. What are your thoughts on that?
    I thing that sounds about right. There may have been some negatives there but I can't remember. I only went into the latter portion 2 times out of the 4 I have done GVT.
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    Yes there are some exercises that you are just too exhausted to do after the big 10..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    It takes less than 10 minutes for your pre to get into the intestines tops, take it 30 minutes prior wait 10 minutes have a scoop of protein problem solved. If your pre has creatine this will be better anyway since creatine uptake takes longer than the stims...
    I was under the impression (was told) that a protein shake or food should be taken 45min pre-WO. What are your thoughts on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Suck it up Sally!
    Oh i do them... Err, I thought you weren't going to tell anyone my pet name ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Oh i do them... Err, I thought you weren't going to tell anyone my pet name ????
    Wait I thought it was butter bottom now after the other night... Oh boy now I did it...

    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I was under the impression (was told) that a protein shake or food should be taken 45min pre-WO. What are your thoughts on that?
    I think timing has more to do with when you can eat and be comfortable when working out. Some whey isolate 20 minutes before isn't going to bother most people. However you don't have to have it. Amino acids are great in that situation and still feed the muscle. I was just saying if you want protein prior to the workout without messing up the stim effects of a pre workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Wait I thought it was butter bottom now after the other night... Oh boy now I did it...


    I think timing has more to do with when you can eat and be comfortable when working out. Some whey isolate 20 minutes before isn't going to bother most people. However you don't have to have it. Amino acids are great in that situation and still feed the muscle. I was just saying if you want protein prior to the workout without messing up the stim effects of a pre workout.
    Always good info Chris! And yes...yes you have..
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    11/21/2013

    Day started as per norm with a run (5 km) fasted.

    Dosed 1/2 of a scoop of Stimul8 right before my run.


    GVT: Legs 4-0-2

    SUPERSET 1

    Squats (ATG)
    195x10
    195x10
    195x10
    195x10
    195x10
    195x10
    195x10
    195x10
    195x9
    195x7

    - Felt great pushing through a few extra reps this week.

    Lying Legs Curls
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10
    70x10


    TRI-SUPERSET

    Leg Extensions
    110x15
    110x15
    110x15
    110x15


    Stiffleg Deadlifts
    160x10
    160x10
    160x10
    160x10

    Standing Barbell Calf Raises - hard squeeze at the top - count of 3.
    185x20
    185x20
    185x19
    185x17

    Great workout... legs pretty shaky going back in the house and up to take a shower. Good stuff! That also pretty much puts my tub of Stimul8 to bed. I am going to be opening a purchased one though immediately and keep things going here just a tad longer. I will get a final review up this week. Thanks for all the helpful info along the way - and of course to the Finaflex team for this opportunity.
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    Nice update and log, brother. Nice work on those squats, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Nice update and log, brother. Nice work on those squats, too!
    Thanks man.
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    Awesome stuff Simon. Was a wonderful log so far and I'll be here for the durationtin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Was a wonderful log so far and I'll be here for the durationtin
    agreed - you already know I admire the consistency shown thruout your logs
    big shout out to you sir!
    I will be here for the duration, and whatever the hell word Montana is trying to say up there as well
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    Duration

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    keep up the great work brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Awesome stuff Simon. Was a wonderful log so far and I'll be here for the durationtin
    Thanks Montana..

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    agreed - you already know I admire the consistency shown thruout your logs
    big shout out to you sir!
    I will be here for the duration, and whatever the hell word Montana is trying to say up there as well
    Thanks Steve, means a lot.

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    11/22/13

    Warmup with 1 scoop of Stimul8: 5 km jog

    - Something to note here. Big difference with running performance with a full scoop in me. 2nd half of the run, pace was faster...Came home in the zone!

    GVT: Shoulders and Back Width

    Seated Barbell Press: 4-0-2
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10
    120x10

    - got interupted by a neighbour at set 6, which probably gave me too much rest. I so do not want to close the garage door, but if I must - I will. "Looks like your busy working hard in there" - "Yes heads up as a toss a dumbbell at your head"!

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns:
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10
    190x10

    -tempo was 4-0-2

    Face Pulls:
    120x15
    120x15
    120x15
    120x13,2

    - I have decided on accessory movements to work to my full rep range - utilizing a pause where needed.

    Wide Hammer Grip Pulldowns:
    190x15
    190x15
    190x12,3
    190x11,3,1

    Shrugs:
    60x10
    60x10
    60x10

    - 3 count at the top

    Stretchers:
    160x10
    160x9,1
    160x7,3

    - 2 count on the stretch

    What a great session this morning. Broke open a new tub of Stimul8. Going to add Maxpump to the mix next Saturday I think. Full scoop in me energy, focus, thermo were all just where I like them. Neighbor totally annoyed me though. Hard to say pi$$ off in a polite way. Guy rarely talks to me, picks mid workout of all times to wander into my garage!
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    Ha! See, you have gym drama at home too!

    Nice work bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Ha! See, you have gym drama at home too!

    Nice work bro.
    At least he didn't try and steal my bench

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    I was reading up on GVT....

    Tempo: For long-range movements such as squats, dips and chins, use a 4-0-2 tempo; this means you would lower the weight in four seconds and immediately change direction and lift for two seconds. For movements such as curls and triceps extensions, use a 3-0-2 tempo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I was reading up on GVT....

    Tempo: For long-range movements such as squats, dips and chins, use a 4-0-2 tempo; this means you would lower the weight in four seconds and immediately change direction and lift for two seconds. For movements such as curls and triceps extensions, use a 3-0-2 tempo.

    Why thy 3-0-2, do you think?
    Not as much range of motion so that would make for some terribly long TUT and strain on the shorter muscles.

    With the longer muscles the slower tempo allows the entire muscle length to come under stress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Not as much range of motion so that would make for some terribly long TUT and strain on the shorter muscles.

    With the longer muscles the slower tempo allows the entire muscle length to come under stress.
    What's TUT stand for?
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    TUT= Time under tension

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    TUT= Time under tension
    So you stick to the 3.0.2 then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    So you stick to the 3.0.2 then?
    Yes. I dont use 4-0-2 on accessory exercises either..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post

    So you stick to the 3.0.2 then?
    On shorter muscle groups like biceps and traps I'll use the 302 but everything else is 402 accessory or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    On shorter muscle groups like biceps and traps I'll use the 302 but everything else is 402 accessory or not.
    Oh really? See the plan I read up on had a different tempo for most accessory exercises... hmm noted
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post

    Oh really? See the plan I read up on had a different tempo for most accessory exercises... hmm noted
    It's just a personal preference. I feel like the longer negative makes a huge difference on chest and back.

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    Makes sense. I know with certain exercises if I drag out that negative DOMS are way more predominant the next day.
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    Great work and lots of good convo in here.

    Favorite quote of recent posts:

    "Looks like your busy working hard in there" - "Yes heads up as a toss a dumbbell at your head"!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Great work and lots of good convo in here.

    Favorite quote of recent posts:

    "Looks like your busy working hard in there" - "Yes heads up as a toss a dumbbell at your head"!


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    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Oh really? See the plan I read up on had a different tempo for most accessory exercises... hmm noted
    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    It's just a personal preference. I feel like the longer negative makes a huge difference on chest and back.
    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Makes sense. I know with certain exercises if I drag out that negative DOMS are way more predominant the next day.
    I enjoy the DOMs, and have been using 402 on everything. I struggled with incline curls this week, so I could see where an extra second NOT doing a neg helps, but honestly, I've noticed I'm not always at the very bottom when I hit '4', so it ends up being a 5-count.

    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Thanks Chris... Hmmm some say I am anti-social... I was just in the zone!
    I don't like talking much when I'm working out at all. Ain't nobody got time for that!
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    11/23/13

    Dosed 1 scoop of Stimul8 prior to my run. 5.5 km this morning. And would be the first run where it was snowing...mind you it didn't stay on the ground.

    Arms

    SuperSet 1

    Close Grip Bench Press:
    140x10
    140x10
    140x10
    140x10
    140x10
    140x10
    140x10
    140x10
    140x10
    140x9

    Tempo 4-0-2

    Incline Dumbbell Curls:
    30x10
    30x10
    30x10
    30x10
    30x10
    30x10
    30x9
    30x10
    30x8
    30x8

    - Did slightly better on these this time around. However, they were not as awkward to perform as the first time. Biceps are already providing some DOMS 45 minutes after my workout.


    Superset 2

    Overhead Tricep Extension:
    100x15
    100x15
    100x15
    100x15

    Preacher Curls:
    90x10
    90x10
    90x10
    90x7

    - ran out of gas on this one.


    Superset 3

    Rope Pushdown:
    90x15
    90x15
    90x15

    Hammer Curls:
    30x10
    30x10
    30x10

    - Hammer curl weight might have been a bit on the light side here. Will try 40's next time.

    - Going to try to get my final review up today.

    - Montana just for you I will take some pics after....but again guys, I am a huge work in progress...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    I enjoy the DOMs, and have been using 402 on everything. I struggled with incline curls this week, so I could see where an extra second NOT doing a neg helps, but honestly, I've noticed I'm not always at the very bottom when I hit '4', so it ends up being a 5-count.



    I don't like talking much when I'm working out at all. Ain't nobody got time for that!

    Well I can attest to the fact that you have been killing it Thomas!

    And same here, I just wanna do what I am in the garage to do. No interruptions, no cell phone, no chit chat. Mind on the task at hand, and music pumping.
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    Yay, noods!

    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Well I can attest to the fact that you have been killing it Thomas!

    And same here, I just wanna do what I am in the garage to do. No interruptions, no cell phone, no chit chat. Mind on the task at hand, and music pumping.
    Thanks man, I just try and keep up with you, which is hard, and that's without actually keeping up!

    Man, my Stimul8 just started kicking in, I did my two warmup sets on deads, and I made the mistake of waving at some guy that I normally avoid during the week because he's a talker. I was then stuck in a 5 min convo about his joints.

    Your workout here was no joke.
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    NOOOOOOOODS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    NOOOOOOOODS!
    Yes you will be getting you some my friend..
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    First of all a huge thanks to the Finaflex team for hooking me up with the opportunity to log Stimul8. Averaging a 3/4 of a scoop per dosing - this log seemed to last forever (which is a great thing in my books). A couple of hightlights for me were the clean energy matched with a long hang time and no crash, the appetite suppresion and the powerful focus. Finaflex certainly nailed it (again) with Stimul8.

    This product was a great source of clean energy/good mood: 5/5

    I'd typically dose Stimul8 right before my warm up run in the mornings. Which is about 40 minutes before lifting my first weight. This really worked to my advantage as I felt the energy kick in usually around the midway mark of my run - this resulted in a quicker pace, deeper breathing and a 'feel good feeling'. By the time I hit the garage most days, my focus, energy, and state of being were right in the zone. From 1/2 a scoop to a rounded scoop my energy levels were always great. Of course the more powder in me, the more powerful the kick and the stronger the thermo properties. It was always a clean ride, with hang time being anywhere from 4-7 hours and with no crash at all.

    This product helped me power through my training sessions: 5/5

    This is an understatement as I truly owned some of my sessions while taking Stimul8. The physical aspect of German Volume Training was perfectly matched with Stimul8. I had the power and drive to push through my workouts with confidence and a physical ability to push out my reps even when typically there would be nothing left in the tank.

    This product enhanced my mental focus: 5/5

    As mentioned throughout my log, I experienced tremendous focus while using Stimul8. With exception of 2-3 workouts (where I was just suffering from outside stress) I was always in the zone. Mind and muscle connection was great and my focus was on point. There were some days where the outside world just didn't exist - it was like 'I was at one with the bar'.

    This product did not give me the jitters: 5/5

    I found the energy I got from Stimul8 very smooth. No 'stimmed out', or 'jittery' feeling at all. After dosing, the first thing I always felt was the beta-alanine 'fuzzies', which would quickly be followed with an abundance in energy. Even when running and my breathing would intensify my heart rate never got rapid, nor did I have any strange feelings.

    This product tasted great: 5/5

    It seems most preworkouts are better tasting then as little as a year ago. Stimul8's flavoring system is top notch. A quick shake was all that was needed, resulting in a nice smooth texture, and a tasty flavor. Not too strong, nor mild.

    I really enjoyed this product and would recommend it to friends and family: Absolutely.

    I enjoyed more effective workouts, faster runs, appetite suppression, focus and thermo effect. Anyone who needs a strong preworkout that will enable them to push themselves to their fullest potential, with superb hang time would really benefit from Stimul8. The fact that most users will find 3/4 of a scoop their sweet spot, makes Stimul8 very cost effectiveness as the tub seems to last forever.

    On the flipside, those who cannot handle stims would need to tread lightly. Even though I did not get the 'jitters' from Stimul8, others might. That said, starting as low as 1/4 to 1/3 of a scoop would be a great way for this type of user to feel the benefits and evaluate the affects of the ingredients.

    Finally, thanks to everyone else for following along and making this a more enjoyable experience. The engaging conversation and encouragement by all is what makes these logs what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Thanks man, I just try and keep up with you, which is hard, and that's without actually keeping up!

    Man, my Stimul8 just started kicking in, I did my two warmup sets on deads, and I made the mistake of waving at some guy that I normally avoid during the week because he's a talker. I was then stuck in a 5 min convo about his joints.

    Your workout here was no joke.
    You keep up just fine...

    Him lucky you no breaka his joints!

    THanks bro... rest day tomorrow..
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    Ok here goes. Still lots of work ahead and obviously need to pay even closer attention to nutritional values.

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