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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Gotta read through this a bit, but there are some links to some literature about Liver stress from OEP and Versa-1. Personally I don't really think it is the product, but it isn't worth taking the chance until we find out the truth.

    The Army pushed out a warning today to tell soldiers to stop taking these products. I will forward the email
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    And that was a kick asss workout!!
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    FWIW, even if it's mildly stressful to the liver there are plenty of liv support supps that are proven to help, like liv52. Over 800 clinical studies on humans. And I can vouch for its effects in my personal bloodwork. It's dirt cheap if you buy the indian version too, & twice the price if you get the American bottles.

    And herbal liv support is only going to improve health, so not like it's a big hangup to run some with the versa-1 if he's already got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    And that was a kick asss workout!!
    Thanks, but I think my liver hurts. J/k

    I missed the Versa 1 part, just saw the OEP Thermo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    FWIW, even if it's mildly stressful to the liver there are plenty of liv support supps that are proven to help, like liv52. Over 800 clinical studies on humans. And I can vouch for its effects in my personal bloodwork. It's dirt cheap if you buy the indian version too, & twice the price if you get the American bottles.

    And herbal liv support is only going to improve health, so not like it's a big hangup to run some with the versa-1 if he's already got it.
    Never heard of it. Where do you get it?
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    Never heard of it. Where do you get it?
    That rainforest website that everyone buys stuff from. You know, mazon.
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    Pre:
    2x Jack3D Micro
    (Creatine and Agmatine taken @ 7am, workout at noon-ish)

    Elliptical x5 pre, x3 post. Just to boost the HR.

    Barbell Deadlift 357.5

    Set 1 : 135x5

    Set 2 : 225x10

    Set 3 : 325x2
    Set 3 : 275x5

    Set 4 : 275x9

    Set 5 : 275x4
    Set 5 : 225x7
    |
    Wide Grip Rear Pull-Up N/A

    Set 1 : 0x8
    Set 2 : 0x7
    Set 3 : 0x7
    Set 4 : 0x6
    Set 5 : 0x4
    Set 6 : 0x4
    Set 7 : 0x4
    |
    Barbell Good Morning 240.5

    Set 1 : 135x10

    Set 2 : 185x9 (PR)

    Set 3 : 185x8
    Set 3 : 135x8

    Set 4 : 135x10
    |
    Deadstops:

    Set 1 : 100x9

    Notes

    All one super set, kinda. I did Deads, pulls, deads, pulls, deads, GM's, pulls, etc. No breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Pre:
    2x Jack3D Micro
    (Creatine and Agmatine taken @ 7am, workout at noon-ish)

    Elliptical x5 pre, x3 post. Just to boost the HR.

    Barbell Deadlift 357.5

    Set 1 : 135x5

    Set 2 : 225x10

    Set 3 : 325x2
    Set 3 : 275x5

    Set 4 : 275x9

    Set 5 : 275x4
    Set 5 : 225x7
    |
    Wide Grip Rear Pull-Up N/A

    Set 1 : 0x8
    Set 2 : 0x7
    Set 3 : 0x7
    Set 4 : 0x6
    Set 5 : 0x4
    Set 6 : 0x4
    Set 7 : 0x4
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    Barbell Good Morning 240.5

    Set 1 : 135x10

    Set 2 : 185x9 (PR)

    Set 3 : 185x8
    Set 3 : 135x8

    Set 4 : 135x10
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    Deadstops:

    Set 1 : 100x9

    Notes

    All one super set, kinda. I did Deads, pulls, deads, pulls, deads, GM's, pulls, etc. No breaks.

    I haven't been working out much on the weekends, but I think I may start. Cardio day Saturday, and whatever on Sundays.
    Nice job Thomas, I haven't done heavy deads in about a month. Just takes so much out of my hips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Nice job Thomas, I haven't done heavy deads in about a month. Just takes so much out of my hips.
    I have been slacking on deads, no doubt. I need to make sure it's a weekly priority. And thanks, bro!
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    Pre:
    5g BCAA's
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    1x UNCUT
    1s Agmatine

    Elliptical preX5

    Smith Machine Incline Bench Press 270

    Set 1 : 135x10
    Set 2 : 225x6
    Set 3 : 205x9
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    Dumbbell Bench Press 114

    Set 1 : 90x8
    Set 2 : 80x10
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    Smith Machine Shoulder Press 191.17

    Set 1 : 155x2
    Set 1 : 155x7
    Set 1 : 135x4

    Set 2 : 135x11

    Set 3 : 135x12

    Set 4 : 135x9
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    Dumbbell Fly 71.5

    Set 1 : 55x9
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    Barbell Up Right Row 145.67

    Set 1 : 115x8

    Set 2 : 135x2
    Set 2 : 115x1
    Set 2 : 95x8
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    Cable Front Raise 74.67

    Drop Sets:

    Set 1 : 50x6
    Set 2 : 40x4
    Set 3 : 50x7
    Set 4 : 40x4
    Set 5 : 30x4
    Set 6 : 20x4

    Set 7 : 60x5
    Set 8 : 50x4
    Set 9 : 40x4
    Set 10 : 30x5
    Set 11 : 20x5

    Set 12 : 70x2
    Set 13 : 60x1
    Set 14 : 50x3
    Set 15 : 40x3
    Set 16 : 30x4
    Set 17 : 20x3
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    I got in "the zone" right when it was time to leave, dammit. I wanted to do more chest, but the gym got a little crowded and people were using the benches. It's hard to hog all the equipment, but, I wish when people take 20 min breaks in between their sets they would at least get their fat azz up and let someone else get in a set. Grrr...

    I still plan on sticking with the smith for all bb presses until my shoulder stops aching.
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    Amazing volume brother-makes me feel like a weakling! 17 sets of front raises=beastly. Uncut kicks in slowly but once it does it's awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Amazing volume brother-makes me feel like a weakling! 17 sets of front raises=beastly. Uncut kicks in slowly but once it does it's awesome.
    Agreed, great volume!! I have some uncut myself, tried 1 cap and didn't get much so may have to take 2 next time and see
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    Great workouts Thomas.. sick volume
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Amazing volume brother-makes me feel like a weakling! 17 sets of front raises=beastly. Uncut kicks in slowly but once it does it's awesome.
    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    Agreed, great volume!! I have some uncut myself, tried 1 cap and didn't get much so may have to take 2 next time and see
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    Great workouts Thomas.. sick volume
    Thanks guys! I don't really view it as that many sets when I drop set. It goes by fast, anyway.

    Yeah, I'm not 100% certain that I felt anything. I had a good pump going, but with the Agmatine and Creatine, I can't pin point who the major contributing supp is. I have two more caps and will try them tomorrow. I'm way looking forward to getting my PumpX3 in so I can stay away from stims a little longer. The jack3D is nothing compared to the stuff I was trying before.
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    Front raises demolish me - sick volume man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Front raises demolish me - sick volume man!
    I can't even do them anymore. Puts too much stress on my elbows
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Front raises demolish me - sick volume man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    I can't even do them anymore. Puts too much stress on my elbows
    I don't have issues with my elbows (yet), but these are definitely one of the workouts that can send a shooting pain in my left delt. The last time I did them with a plate was brutal, but I think this grip helps a little.
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    Pre:
    5g BCAA's
    3g Creatine
    2x UNCUT
    1s Agmatine

    Elliptical preX9, postX3min

    Barbell Squat 348.33

    Set 1 : 135x10
    Set 2 : 225x10
    Set 3 : 275x8

    INSERT LEG PRESSES HERE, because Team Hog-All-Three-Squat-Racks showed up.

    Set 4 : 135x30
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    Standing Leg Curl 190

    Set 1 : 150x8
    Set 2 : 100x12
    Set 3 : 130x8
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    Seated Calf Raise 300

    Set 1 : 180x20
    Set 2 : 180x15

    Set 3 : 180x20
    Set 3 : 135x20 (slow neg)
    Set 3 : 90x15 (SN)
    Set 3 : 45x30 (SN)
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    Leg Press 636

    Set 1 : 450x10
    (Hurt my IT/Achilles a little, but seemed to be stretched for the next set. Should have upped it)

    Set 2 : 360x23
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    Ab Rollout on Knees 10

    Set 1 : 10 Laps/Reps

    Apparently, only taking one day off between the wheel-o-death isn't enough. These burned like **** on rep 2!
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    Today was originally back day, but both my upper an lower back were still sore from my added Sunday session. Being that they were sore, it somewhat messed up some of my leg workouts. My second set on of curls, and both the squats and presses put a little pressure on my low back. Tomorrow will be upper back and biceps, assuming my body cooperates. If not, I may do a cardio day.
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    Pre:
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    Elliptical preX5, postX0

    Reverse Grip Machine Lat Pull Down 145.67

    Set 1 : 90x12

    Set 2 : 135x2 (*PR, according to Jefit. Sucks, because the knee placement thing wasn't working and I could have done more..)
    Set 2 : 135x1 *re-grip +
    Set 2 : 135x2 *pause to fix knee placement, drop weights, re-grip +
    Set 2 : 115x8 *PR

    Set 3 : 115x7

    Set 4 : 90x4
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    Alternate Hammer Curl 60

    Set 1 : 45x8

    Set 2 : 40x10

    Drop set-
    Set 3 : 50x6
    Set 3 : 45x2
    Set 3 : 40x2
    Set 3 : 35x3
    Set 3 : 30x4
    Set 3 : 25x4
    Set 3 : 20x5
    Set 3 : 15x5

    Great burn/pump!
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    Reverse Lying T-Bar Row 166.5

    Set 1 : 135x7 PR

    Set 2 : 125x7

    Drop Set-
    Set 3 : 100x13
    Set 3 : 90x4
    Set 3 : 45x20

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    Barbell Curl 145.83

    Set 1 : 125x5 *PR, BUT, I just barely broke parallel on my forearm. Should have stuck with working on the 120x5 from last week.

    Set 2 : 115x6
    Set 2 : 105x5

    Set 3 : 95x6
    Set 3 : 90x11
    Set 3 : 45x10
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    Cable Seated Row 240.67

    Set 1 : 190x8 wide grip
    Set 2 : 170x10 close grip
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    Nice numbers bro, and way to bust out some PRs!!!
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    Those seated row numbers are sweet..
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    Nice job. Killin it man. How do you like that Uncut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by niners4reggie View Post
    Nice numbers bro, and way to bust out some PRs!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Those seated row numbers are sweet..
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    Nice job. Killin it man. How do you like that Uncut?
    Thanks bros!

    The uncut is ok. I haven't *noticed* much from it but I'm also getting a good pump from Agmatine. It's possible it have me energy that was masked by my coffee. Oddly, I'm having better mental focus and hitting more PR's without any stims right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Nice job. Killin it man. How do you like that Uncut?
    Oh, and the rows hurt. I was proud of my reverse single arm machine pulls too!
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    Uncut has a little stim in it. Not much though. I sure as **** didn't get in the gym today. And I have to replace the brakes on the truck TODAY
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Uncut has a little stim in it. Not much though. I sure as **** didn't get in the gym today. And I have to replace the breaks on the truck TODAY
    Brakes, schmakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Uncut has a little stim in it. Not much though. I sure as **** didn't get in the gym today. And I have to replace the brakes on the truck TODAY
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    Brakes, schmakes.
    Wait, what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Wait, what?
    Have you never seen the Flintstones? Man up...
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    Yeah, Drew.....if you have good enough reaction time you should be able to just swerve through lights & stuff...seatbelts are also overrated. If you get into an accident you can just throw your arm across the passenger & give em the ol' "mom-belt"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Yeah, Drew.....if you have good enough reaction time you should be able to just swerve through lights & stuff...seatbelts are also overrated. If you get into an accident you can just throw your arm across the passenger & give em the ol' "mom-belt"

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    Took a rest day today. I woke up with a head ache, and I went Sunday plus plan on going both days this weekend, so that extra hour sleep was needed.

    I will be staying in a hotel all week next week, so I need to figure out what I'm going to do. I called the desk and asked if they had a gym, but the girl couldn't describe it to me.
    So, if it's REALLY BASIC, I guess I'll do a deload week. Also, I won't be meal prepping. I have no idea what I'm going to do there. It's going to be a pain hitting my nutrition goals having to eat out and/or refrigerate little...
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    Hate it when I travel. Usually the hotel has little to no gym. Hard to keep eating healthy. I wish we can stay home and keep our routines up and still get paid. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Hate it when I travel. Usually the hotel has little to no gym. Hard to keep eating healthy. I wish we can stay home and keep our routines up and still get paid. Lol
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    If work pays for your expenses, I always hit up a wallyworld first thing, buy a cheap tub of whey, & lots of canned tuna/chicken (the big cans). Bring a can opener. Boom. 50-60g protein hits whenev you can shove em in throughout the day. But I also find a local gym & make a deal with the owner, usually for 20-30 for 2wks no contract. If it's only a wk I'd skip the whey & finding a gym is up to you - deloads can be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    If work pays for your expenses, I always hit up a wallyworld first thing, buy a cheap tub of whey, & lots of canned tuna/chicken (the big cans). Bring a can opener. Boom. 50-60g protein hits whenev you can shove em in throughout the day. But I also find a local gym & make a deal with the owner, usually for 20-30 for 2wks no contract. If it's only a wk I'd skip the whey & finding a gym is up to you - deloads can be useful.
    ^^ Great ideas. I think I will take the Wally-World tuna and whey route. It'll keep my belly out of trouble. I've missed tuna...
    I think I'm leaking towards a deload, at least on my upper body. I would be very excited if I find a squat rack in the hotel.
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    Pre:
    5g BCAA's
    3g Creatine
    1s Agmatine
    2x Jack3D

    Treadmill preX6, postX0

    Triceps Pushdown V-Bar 116.67

    Drop Sets. Used a different cable, this one is definitely tougher, but for a comparison I was doing 150x20 on the other.

    Set 1 : 100x5
    Set 2 : 70x10

    Set 3 : 80x10
    Set 4 : 60x6
    Set 5 : 40x7

    Set 6 : 80x11
    Set 7 : 60x6
    Set 8 : 40x7
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    Dumbbell Shoulder Press 70

    Set 1 : 50x12

    Drop Sets:

    Set 2 : 50x9
    Set 3 : 40x3
    Set 4 : 25x6 pause
    Set 5 : 25x6

    Set 6 : 50x5
    Set 7 : 25x6
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    Reverse Grip Skullcrusher 101.33

    Set 1 : 80x8

    Set 2 : 70x10

    Set 3 : 70x8
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    Cable Internal Rotation 66.67

    Set 1 : 50x10

    Drop Set:

    Set 2 : 50x6
    Set 3 : 40x3
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    Barbell Close Grip Bench Press 206.67

    Set 1 : 155x10

    Set 2 : 135x14

    Set 3 : 135x8
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    Cable Rope Rear Delt Row 265

    (The cable machine I mentioned above)

    Set 1 : 150x22 PR

    Set 2 : 150x23 PR

    Set 3 : 150x19
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    Arm Circles 20

    Drop Sets, alternating forward, reverse, small and large circles.

    Set 1 : 20 Laps/Reps 10 pound weights
    Set 2 : 20 Laps/Reps 5#
    Set 3 : 16 Laps/Reps Arm Only
    Set 4 : 10 Laps/Reps AO


    Set 5 : 13 Laps/Reps 10#
    Set 6 : 8 Laps/Reps 5#
    Set 7 : 5 Laps/Reps AO
    Set 8 : 5 Laps/Reps AO
    Set 9 : 3 Laps/Reps AO


    Set 10 : 10 Laps/Reps 10#
    Set 11 : 10 Laps/Reps 5#
    Set 12 : 6 Laps/Reps AO
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    Notes
    Exercise : Reverse Grip Skullcrusher
    - Note : + 8 Rev Grip tri press (EZ)
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    Interesting workout, way different than I'm used too. Arm circles good for shoulder tendon strength? Congrats on the PRs.
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    Great job bro. Those pushdowns are stellar. You must have bought more BCAA's, I am on empty. Bout 30-40 grams left.
  

  
 

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