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    Quote Originally Posted by classic34 View Post
    Happy belated birthday EBF.

    I'm not judging. I've used nicotine gum before with the goal of appetite suppression, but honestly I didn't find it useful enough to use again and it gave me a slightly scattered brain feeling that wasn't useful with a heavy class schedule. I do own a quality hookah, but don't use it for appetite suppression or anything bodybuilding related. It's more of a relaxing thing once a week or so. Many people report nicotine cravings from the gum and other routes or administration such as a patch, but I never noticed any of that. I guess people vary a lot there.
    Thank you

    And like you I don't get those cravings.

    It's weird I have an addictive personality but much better self control. When I want to stop something I can.. I own a hookah as well. Haven't lit it up in a while tho. I got some odd flavored tobaccos last time I bought

    Tha appetite suppression for me was as about 8mg 4 didn't do much. And 8 was a bit strong
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    Guys at the conclusion of te log I will be giving a run down on the pre workouts I used if any to help people further with the vascularity most seek with these products

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    Get yourself a bag of All-In by Prescription Nutrition(RX Whey). Non-stim and an absolutely phenomenal profile. Love the stuff.
    Post up the profile if you can I'm finishing up some enhanced

    Enhanced:
    Flavor: I personally choke to get this down at first it was ok. Now I don't look forward to it. But it's tolerable 6/10

    Pump: it was pretty decent at first I use it every so often not all the time but I can't say I really notice a big pump from it. 7/10

    Focus; this is where it shined for me. First few workouts I killed it and definitely got in the zone and I like it for that 9/10

    Stim: I'm a stim junky. I only use one really dense scoop BC I take other burners with caffeine. I would say it's super smooth definitely good 7/10

    Other effects: first few times using it it made me go straight to the bathroom.

    Thermo effect: this was ehh for me but hard to notice with everything else I'm taking so I can't comment

    Profile: I love the nitrates agmatine and yohimbine extract it's what really attracted me to it. I would say you can probably use it along with alphat2 for additional fat burning effects and for some all day pumps. I love that there's 40 servings makes this last a long time.

    Overall 7/10. If there's anything you want me to touch on ill be more then happy to.
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    Happy Birthday buddy!! Sorry I'm late wishing you that
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    Thanks guys!!! Appreciate the love
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Post up the profile if you can I'm finishing up some enhanced

    Enhanced:
    Flavor: I personally choke to get this down at first it was ok. Now I don't look forward to it. But it's tolerable 6/10

    Pump: it was pretty decent at first I use it every so often not all the time but I can't say I really notice a big pump from it. 7/10

    Focus; this is where it shined for me. First few workouts I killed it and definitely got in the zone and I like it for that 9/10

    Stim: I'm a stim junky. I only use one really dense scoop BC I take other burners with caffeine. I would say it's super smooth definitely good 7/10

    Other effects: first few times using it it made me go straight to the bathroom.

    Thermo effect: this was ehh for me but hard to notice with everything else I'm taking so I can't comment

    Profile: I love the nitrates agmatine and yohimbine extract it's what really attracted me to it. I would say you can probably use it along with alphat2 for additional fat burning effects and for some all day pumps. I love that there's 40 servings makes this last a long time.

    Overall 7/10. If there's anything you want me to touch on ill be more then happy to.
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    Zach, have you tried 1 scoop alphamine and 1 scoop enhanced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post
    Zach, have you tried 1 scoop alphamine and 1 scoop enhanced?
    I have not BC I always did 2 scoops alphamine pre workout

    And now I have no more but 1 scoop alphamine didn't do much for me IMO.

    So what I ended up doing at one point was 2 scoop alphamine am 2 scoop oxy elite powder pm

    That was great
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    I have not BC I always did 2 scoops alphamine pre workout

    And now I have no more but 1 scoop alphamine didn't do much for me IMO.

    So what I ended up doing at one point was 2 scoop alphamine am 2 scoop oxy elite powder pm

    That was great
    Wow. You sleep ok lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post

    Wow. You sleep ok lol
    Like a baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    I have not BC I always did 2 scoops alphamine pre workout

    And now I have no more but 1 scoop alphamine didn't do much for me IMO.

    So what I ended up doing at one point was 2 scoop alphamine am 2 scoop oxy elite powder pm

    That was great
    Wtf?! I'd be dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Wtf?! I'd be dead
    I have a retarded tolerance man idk why.

    Happens with everything I take
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    All-In

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    Yesterday finished at around 1800 cals


    Today will be lower fat higher carb and protein

    24.8 ounce 99% turkey
    3 packets guacamole
    5 serving polenta

    1100 calories

    Looking good

    Ordered new running shoes gotta get those miles in. Have issues with calves tho

    Today will be approximately 2300 calories
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Yesterday finished at around 1800 cals


    Today will be lower fat higher carb and protein

    24.8 ounce 99% turkey
    3 packets guacamole
    5 serving polenta

    1100 calories

    Looking good

    Ordered new running shoes gotta get those miles in. Have issues with calves tho

    Today will be approximately 2300 calories
    Grandma's cooking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Grandma's cooking?
    Today was mine lol

    Nothing eats grandmas cooking

    So I ended the day at 26-2700 calories I was hungry.

    And tomorrow sushi date with an old friend may be some potential there

    We will see. So tomorrow will be another high calorie day but I'm running and doing back and shoulders again

    So calorie expenditure will be high
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Today was mine lol

    Nothing eats grandmas cooking

    So I ended the day at 26-2700 calories I was hungry.

    And tomorrow sushi date with an old friend may be some potential there

    We will see. So tomorrow will be another high calorie day but I'm running and doing back and shoulders again

    So calorie expenditure will be high
    Where you get sushi tai show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Where you get sushi tai show?
    Going to this new place by sunrise mall. It's ****ing bananas.

    I used to hit himawari in lb. my fave by far but mine and my exs spot so haven't been there in ages.

    Fatty fish in glen cove is amazing too
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Going to this new place by sunrise mall. It's ****ing bananas.

    I used to hit himawari in lb. my fave by far but mine and my exs spot so haven't been there in ages.

    Fatty fish in glen cove is amazing too
    Damn I miss sushi. It just takes one bad experience bro... Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post

    Damn I miss sushi. It just takes one bad experience bro... Lol
    Ill take ya to my spot bro great turnover no worries. I don't **** around w sushi if a bad spot man

    Start off slow.
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    So what are you doing for "Cardio" as such? ( I am not sure if I have asked you this before)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Today was mine lol

    Nothing eats grandmas cooking

    So I ended the day at 26-2700 calories I was hungry.

    And tomorrow sushi date with an old friend may be some potential there

    We will see. So tomorrow will be another high calorie day but I'm running and doing back and shoulders again

    So calorie expenditure will be high
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invycktus View Post
    So what are you doing for "Cardio" as such? ( I am not sure if I have asked you this before)
    2 mile jogs like 3x a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post

    Do you respond well to c20?
    I would say yes
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    I have to redo my review of enhanced after todays work out

    I did 1 scoop pre.

    Half scoop immediately before

    Half scoop during.

    I just felt overall great today. Enough to go for a 30 min jog immediately after the workout.

    Endurance and focus was spot on. I will be dosing this way for now on

    Pump was also much better. Shoulder vein after 1 set of rows that lasted the entire workout

    Bumping it up to a 9/10
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    My body is fighting every ounce of fat still on it


    I am ravenous probably because my fat is so low.

    What I didn't add in there was a cucumber I ate

    Adds about 50 calories

    I didn't measure the potatoes but it came out to 2 cups cooked unsure how much it was if I didn't mash so I put down 3 coulda been a little more so I just accounted for it by not hitting the 2200
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    What kind of issues are you having with your calves? If your running shoes are worn out they may start aching after long runs.

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    Thank you

    And like you I don't get those cravings.

    It's weird I have an addictive personality but much better self control. When I want to stop something I can.. I own a hookah as well. Haven't lit it up in a while tho. I got some odd flavored tobaccos last time I bought

    Tha appetite suppression for me was as about 8mg 4 didn't do much. And 8 was a bit strong

    Pretty much the same thing for me. By the time it did anything significant for appetite there was uncomfortable stimulation. I'd rather drink a diet soda or chew gum. What flavors? We haven't had ours for all that long, but tried mixing chai + vanilla the other night and it was different but very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by classic34 View Post
    What kind of issues are you having with your calves? If your running shoes are worn out they may start aching after long runs.

    Pretty much the same thing for me. By the time it did anything significant for appetite there was uncomfortable stimulation. I'd rather drink a diet soda or chew gum. What flavors? We haven't had ours for all that long, but tried mixing chai + vanilla the other night and it was different but very good.
    It's like above my Achilles. Below my calf gets really tight and painful.

    Warm tea usually helps my appetite but these last 3% are going to be extremely hard to get gone. I think ill train just arms tomorrow and try and run again then hit legs on Friday. Well glutes and hams only. I am sitting at an average if 2300 calories a day.


    Running shoes aren't too old they are brooks. Better then my Nike and ascics. I switch between pairs sometimes. I have like a **** load of running shoes
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    Do you get shin pain or is it more localized to the musculo-tendinous junction? - Monitor those as calf tears are common at that point. When stretching, make sure you address your gastrocnemius (stretch with straight knee) and soleus (stretch with bent knee). Foam rolling, massage and trigger point release are also obviously effective. Running biomechanics is a difficult habit to alter, although slightly reducing your stride length could reduce the dominance of your calf group and may be something to trial. Injuries suck, so prevention definitely better than cure..
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    Quote Originally Posted by oz_phys View Post
    Do you get shin pain or is it more localized to the musculo-tendinous junction? - Monitor those as calf tears are common at that point. When stretching, make sure you address your gastrocnemius (stretch with straight knee) and soleus (stretch with bent knee). Foam rolling, massage and trigger point release are also obviously effective. Running biomechanics is a difficult habit to alter, although slightly reducing your stride length could reduce the dominance of your calf group and may be something to trial. Injuries suck, so prevention definitely better than cure..
    No shin pain anymore. I shortened my stride yesterday and was able to run longers. It's closer to my soleouse that hurts

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    Apparently my diet is getting to me


    I dreamt about iifym last night. Woke up and went to the gym. Wtf I'm looking decent today

    Agmatine in enhanced doesn't make me use the bathroom

    It's my post workout dose from bulk powder that does. Not pleasant
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