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    Introduction

    Hey guys. I am excited to start my first log on AM! I was fortunate to be selected to log MAN Sports new product, Pure PF3.

    Although I am new to logging on AM, I am no stranger to logging. This post is intended to introduce myself, my nutrition and training, as well as supplementation while I use this new product.

    I am a 38 year old father of a five year old little boy, residing in Nashville, TN. My wife has been very supportive of my goals, and I am so glad that I have her to help me.

    I have only been lifting since November of 2011, after deciding to lose weight in March of 2011. I started out at ~335 lbs. and ~45% BF. As of Saturday, I weighed in at 215.8# and ~20% BF. I stand right at 5' 9.5" tall.

    I obtained a Master's degree in Medical and Urban Anthropology in 2008, and am approaching the three year mark for my current job as a social science researcher at a medical center.

    Training

    I have primarily used a strength routine since I started lifting, beginning with Stronglifts. I have since moved to 5/3/1 BBB, and recently decided to change to 5/3/1 Bodybuilder. I need to put on more muscle mass, and I figure this is one of the best ways to do it!

    I am basically still using a 5/3/1 scheme for my core lifts (Deadlift, OHP, Bench and Squat), with lots of high rep accessory movements. I currently train four days per week.

    Here's how it is split up:

    Monday: OHP, Face Pull, DB OHP, Bentover DB Raise, DB Curl
    Tuesday: Deadlift, Lat Pulldowns or Chins, DB Row, Back Extensions, Ab Wheel
    Thursday: Bench Press, DB Bench, Dips, DB Fly/Pec Deck, Tricep Pushdowns
    Friday: Low Bar Squat. Leg Press, Leg Extensions, Leg Curls, Situps

    My current calculated 1RMs are:

    Bench: 190
    DL: ~335
    Squat: ~203
    OHP: 133

    My Squat is low because I have had form issues that I am trying to correct, but it is slowly coming back up. I just keep on pushing!

    Nutrition:

    I recently switched back from IF to "regular" eating. I also stopped carb cycling.

    My current intake is based on a "slow" bulk, and I keep meticulous track of calories and macros on MFP.

    Here is my current intake:

    3,600 calories per day

    180g Protein (.82g per lb.)
    100g Fat (~.45g per lb.)
    495g Carbs

    I strive to hit the minimums on Fat and Protein first, and may fill in with more Fat or Protein to hit my calories, but generally stay close to these numbers.

    Letely, I have been getting all of my protein from food, and will do the same for this log, except for PF3

    Supplementation:

    I don't really supplement with a lot, mostly the basics. I actually started some ARA (X-Factor Advanced a couple of weeks ago, and will describe my dosing scheme below, with my other supplements:

    Multivitamin: Orange Triad, split 3 and 3 with morning and evening meals

    Fish Oil: Generally 2-3g EPA/DHA per day, but not while taking ARA.

    ARA: I am currently taking 4 pills of X-Factor Advanced 45 minutes pre-workout on workout days only.

    Creatine Mono: 5g daily

    Vitamin D: 2,000 IU in addition to the amount in Orange Triad

    Pre-workouts: I have various pre-workouts, but recently got a tub of Jack3d Advanced. I'm going to try an pick up a tub of Game Day on the first. Getting paid once per month sucks

    PF3 Dosing Plan:


    I plan on dosing PF3 as follows:

    Workout days

    Pre-workout: One scoop of Pure PF3 pre-workout with my ARA, 1 scoop of Fermented Leucine and a pre-workout

    Intra-workout: One scoop of Pure PF3 during my workout, with 1 scoop of Fermented Leucine

    Post-workout: One scoop of Pure PF3 with 1 scoop of Fermented Leucine

    Rest Days

    1 scoop of Pure PF3 in the AM, mid-day and Evening. I haven't decided if i will dose with Fermented Leucine on these days or not. Probably not. Let me know what you guys think!

    Starting Stats:

    I weighed in on Saturday morning, and will weigh in again on Tuesday to get a more recent weight. I also took measurements on Saturday. Here are those results:

    Weight: 215.8#

    Navel: 36.5"

    Biceps: 14.5"

    Thighs: 23"

    Hips: 39"

    Calves: 16"

    Chest: 45 3/4"

    Shoulders: 50"

    Before Pictures

    These are not the best pictures, but the best I could do yesterday. I stuck my phone to the mirror with some clay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryancap77 View Post
    In on this.... (Any relation to Walter White...?) :P
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    good intro; all necessary details
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    I'm not completely sure I'm going to take the Fermented Leucine three times on workout days or on rest days. Any reason why I shouldn't? I'm wondering if pre-workout and post-workout might be enough. I assume the ARA wouldn't throw anything off too bad, would it?

    And do you guys think a carb source is needed with the Leucine and PF3 as well? I generally train fasted in the early morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    good intro; all necessary details
    Thanks I try to cover all the bases
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    subbed misfit good luck! i'll be logging as soon as I get it. sub to it if you like i'll light it up soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefbo View Post
    subbed misfit good luck! i'll be logging as soon as I get it. sub to it if you like i'll light it up soon!
    Thanks, brother! Will sub to yours when you get it up.

    I got my tubs today, but resisting the temptation to use any today. I hit shoulders and biceps this morning.

    I have Deadlifts tomorrow.

    I think I'm going to dose one scoop with my pre and ARA, one scoop intra with BCAAs, and one scoop post with two scoops of Fermented Leucine.

    I'm also going to try dosing only two scoops on Rest days, like it says on the bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    Thanks, brother! Will sub to yours when you get it up.

    I got my tubs today, but resisting the temptation to use any today. I hit shoulders and biceps this morning.

    I have Deadlifts tomorrow.

    I think I'm going to dose one scoop with my pre and ARA, one scoop intra with BCAAs, and one scoop post with two scoops of Fermented Leucine.

    I'm also going to try dosing only two scoops on Rest days, like it says on the bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    I'm not completely sure I'm going to take the Fermented Leucine three times on workout days or on rest days. Any reason why I shouldn't? I'm wondering if pre-workout and post-workout might be enough. I assume the ARA wouldn't throw anything off too bad, would it?

    And do you guys think a carb source is needed with the Leucine and PF3 as well? I generally train fasted in the early morning.
    To start at the end first, no it does not need to be taken with a carb source it would be just fine fasted, but hey throw in some sugar and see how you like it with some carbs. All four tubs are yours so you get to play around with the dosing as much as you want. That's the great thing about logging! IN!
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    Alright guys, heading to the gym this fine morning for Deadlifts.

    Trying a total of three scoops today: pre, intra and post.

    Update coming when I get to work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Alright guys, heading to the gym this fine morning for Deadlifts.

    Trying a total of three scoops today: pre, intra and post.

    Update coming when I get to work
    This is a nice dosing regiment.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    This is a nice dosing regiment.....
    Nobody dosing with their last meal of the day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Nobody dosing with their last meal of the day?
    I will on rest days
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    Quick update before my real update with my workout. Last night I made a few videos.....




    I'll have to post them one at a time I should have made just one video, but I kept thinking of things
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    Update: 8/27/2013

    Hey guys, I hit Deadlifts and a bunch of accessories this morning.

    I dosed the PF3 like this:

    1 scoop with 1 scoop of pre-workout and my ARA caps 45 minutes before the gym.

    1 scoop mixed with 1 scoop of BCAAs taken intra-workout.

    1 scoop mixed with 5g Creatine Mono and 2 scoops of Fermented Leucine.

    After my post-workout dose, I ate my post-workout meal of 1 cup of oats, a banana and a greek yogurt with some trail mix.

    I am very interested to see how my recovery goes. My traps, lats and lower back are usually killing me after my workouts on Tuesdays.

    Mixability is decent so far, and the taste is great.

    One note: I mixed the PF3 and BCAAs last night and put them in the fridge. I usually do this with BCAAs, as it helps them dissolve. This morning as I drinking my intra, I discovered big hunks of PF3. Didn't bother me too bad, but it was a bit difficult to swallow the big chunks Maybe I will mix it right before my workout next time. In fact, I think I am just going to dose before and after my workouts for the rest of the log. It seems to me that three scoops that close together may not be very advantageous, and may actually waste product.

    As others have mentioned, foaming is very prevalent with this product, especially mixed with Leucine and/or BCAAs. I actually expected that. I will see how PF3 mixed solo does tomorrow evening.

    Here's the workout I did this morning. I have point values listed because I track on Fitocracy, for those of you wondering The DB rows are 40# sets of 10 per arm. I was dripping sweat when I got done, as I did all of this in about an hour:

    Barbell Deadlift:

    135 lb x 5 reps (+66 pts)
    155 lb x 5 reps (+75 pts)
    185 lb x 3 reps (+74 pts)
    230 lb x 5 reps (+125 pts)
    265 lb x 3 reps (+127 pts)
    295 lb x 5 reps (+194 pts)

    5/3/1 Bodybuilder C1, W3, D2: Felt kinda weak on DLs today. Tightening up my form a bit. I blame a lack of quality sleep for my weakness today. Still got 1+, of course, but wanted more reps.

    Wide-Grip Lat Pulldown:

    112.5 lb x 10 reps (+33 pts)
    112.5 lb x 10 reps (+33 pts)
    112.5 lb x 10 reps (+33 pts)
    112.5 lb x 10 reps (+33 pts)

    Widened up my grip to really hit my lats. 60s between sets.

    One-Arm Dumbbell Row:

    40 lb x 10 reps (+39 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+39 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+39 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+39 pts)

    Man, these got me dripping sweat! 60s between sets, except for 90s between Sets 3 & 4.

    Hyperextension:

    15 reps (+5 pts)
    15 reps (+5 pts)
    15 reps (+5 pts)
    15 reps (+5 pts)

    Man, my glutes were on fire after these! 90s between sets.

    Ab Wheel (kneeling):

    10 reps (+18 pts)
    10 reps (+18 pts)
    10 reps (+18 pts)
    10 reps (+18 pts)

    90s between sets. I may need to move up to 15 reps per set here.

    Stretching:

    5 min (+2 pts)

    Lats, hams, quads, piriformis, calves

    Shoulder Dislocation:

    10 reps (+5 pts)
    10 reps (+5 pts)
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    And, one more video of mixing my post-workout dose:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    This is a nice dosing regiment.....
    Thanks, I'm excited to see how sore I am tomorrow. Those hypers kill my glutes/hams after Deads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpaquett View Post
    To start at the end first, no it does not need to be taken with a carb source it would be just fine fasted, but hey throw in some sugar and see how you like it with some carbs. All four tubs are yours so you get to play around with the dosing as much as you want. That's the great thing about logging! IN!
    Thanks for the input I might try carbs with it on leg day. I'll try out Bench day on Thursday and see how that feels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    In for the great strides you made. Wow! Losing 120 lbs! You are on the road to health and longevity!
    Thanks, glad to have you! Love your gym setup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Update: 8/27/2013
    One note: I mixed the PF3 and BCAAs last night and put them in the fridge. I usually do this with BCAAs, as it helps them dissolve. This morning as I drinking my intra, I discovered big hunks of PF3. Didn't bother me too bad, but it was a bit difficult to swallow the big chunks Maybe I will mix it right before my workout next time. In fact, I think I am just going to dose before and after my workouts for the rest of the log. It seems to me that three scoops that close together may not be very advantageous, and may actually waste product.)
    yeah, the same thing happens with casein if it sits more than 10 minutes before consumption; it has to do with the molecular weight i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    yeah, the same thing happens with casein if it sits more than 10 minutes before consumption; it has to do with the molecular weight i think.
    I believe the reason is that the bio-actives in general are hydrophobic. They essentially do not dissolve in water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I believe the reason is that the bio-actives in general are hydrophobic. They essentially do not dissolve in water.
    Hmm, interesting. Doesn't matter to me, as long as it does what it's supposed to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Hmm, interesting. Doesn't matter to me, as long as it does what it's supposed to
    Yeah, that's why you found it in clumps the next day. The stuff settled and since it's hydrophobic, it didn't absorb or break down in water. Just shake it up real nice the next time to break the stuff up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Yeah, that's why you found it in clumps the next day. The stuff settled and since it's hydrophobic, it didn't absorb or break down in water. Just shake it up real nice the next time to break the stuff up again.
    Yep. I had to chew it mid-workout, LOL.
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    yeah. after 30 minutes this one time i couldnt get casein to pour out of the glass; come to think of it, it did have some mixability issues as well when stirring, but after those 30 minutes it had transformed into this gelantinous mass; the water was able to do something to it over time that it couldnt do off the bat when i normally downed it
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    Great thread!
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