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    Interesting. I haven't had that problem with any BCAA or Protein supplement. Usually not even with Pre-Workouts. Sandwiches with mayo on them are really the only thing that trigger heartburn. And alcohol (back when I drank).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Noticing an increase in stomach acid. Minor heartburn symptoms last night in bed.
    You think it's tied to the Betaine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    You think it's tied to the Betaine?
    Possibly. If it doesn't get better, or worse, that will be a better indication.

    Too early though to put all the blame on it.

    Had sushi for lunch, and buffalo wings an veggies for dinner

    Wasn't hungry when I ate dinner, just ate cause I didn't want to wake up at 12 am starving.

    But only 2 servings of pf3 in the am an 2 servings the night before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Noticing an increase in stomach acid. Minor heartburn symptoms last night in bed.
    interesting. jbry, you mentioned in another thread that you are taking drugs to reduce production of hcl due to your abnormally high production of it if you think what you are experiencing now is from the hcl content being too much for someone with your condition, then you are smart to be aware of that cause and effect relationship. i would say your doc is spot on with regards to his diagnosis of you having too much hcl if you are sure that the addition of supplemental hcl is aggravating things.. more water can dilute the effects of hcl and calcium supplements (particularly poorly absorbed ones like tums) will neutralize stomach acids, but running what youre supplementally taking by your doc is a good idea also
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    interesting. jbry, you mentioned in another thread that you are taking drugs to reduce production of hcl due to your abnormally high production of it if you think what you are experiencing now is from the hcl content being too much for someone with your condition, then you are smart to be aware of that cause and effect relationship. i would say your doc is spot on with regards to his diagnosis of you having too much hcl if you are sure that the addition of supplemental hcl is aggravating things.. more water can dilute the effects of hcl and calcium supplements (particularly poorly absorbed ones like tums) will neutralize stomach acids, but running what youre supplementally taking by your doc is a good idea also
    could just be a false alarm though. we'll see. cant wait to hit shoulders/arms tomarrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    could just be a false alarm though. we'll see. cant wait to hit shoulders/arms tomarrow.
    ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    It will be interesting to see how everyone decides to dose theirs. if I ever open my mailbox and find pf3 x2 with fermented leucine, I will take it as a sign from the heavens to dose 2 servings of pf3 with 1 servings fermented leucine twice daily for 25 days
    4 servings daily? Due to weight or preference?
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    I'm going to play with doses. Havent used whey in forever so it shouldn't be hard to gauge the difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    It will be interesting to see how everyone decides to dose theirs. if I ever open my mailbox and find pf3 x2 with fermented leucine, I will take it as a sign from the heavens to dose 2 servings of pf3 with 1 servings fermented leucine twice daily for 25 days
    I'll stay with 3 of each
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    4 servings daily? Due to weight or preference?
    i just like pushing the envelope with supplements i know are safe i suppose. ive been lifting 15 years straight and i guess ive acquired a kind of humility that guides me to throw all the nutrition i can into my body as provision for what im inevitably going to put it through. logically, i think 25 days is a good time in which to make determinations, and the more pronounced effects a higher dose could theoretically achieve, the more usefull it is to me in reaching that determination
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    better late than never, inn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    i just like pushing the envelope with supplements i know are safe i suppose. ive been lifting 15 years straight and i guess ive acquired a kind of humility that guides me to throw all the nutrition i can into my body as provision for what im inevitably going to put it through. logically, i think 25 days is a good time in which to make determinations, and the more pronounced effects a higher dose could theoretically achieve, the more usefull it is to me in reaching that determination
    That's just silly.
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    Serving of grape an leucine this morning with bfast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Serving of grape an leucine this morning with bfast.
    Question: why dose leucine with PF3? Would this skew the log results? Did you normally add leucine to your diet? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post

    Question: why dose leucine with PF3? Would this skew the log results? Did you normally add leucine to your diet? Just curious.
    Because they also sent me two tubs of their fermented leucine with the PF3.

    I think if it wasn't intended to be used, reviewed, they would of said so.

    And no, adding 2g of leucine to my pf3 I don't think is going to skew the results.

    Yes, I do normally use leucine. If you watched the review, you would of caught me mentioning my tub of Sns leucine I have.

    But if those at man would like me to run pf3 without leucine, I'll do so.

    Everyone can use more leucine though.
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    So, why fermented leucine? First I've heard of fermented leucine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    So, why fermented leucine? First I've heard of fermented leucine.
    I think that just means that it is derived from a vegetable source, like corn. That way you know it isn't made from feathers or hair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    I think that just means that it is derived from a vegetable source, like corn. That way you know it isn't made from feathers or hair
    Ah, I see. TBH, I don't really care where the leucine comes from as long as it doesn't negatively impact health and as long as the stuff is effective. LoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Ah, I see. TBH, I don't really care where the leucine comes from as long as it doesn't negatively impact health and as long as the stuff is effective. LoL.
    Hehe, I hear you! Some people are grossed out by that, I think.

    I also think that it being fermented means that it is better quality, as it produced using microbial fermentation, rather than using chemicals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Ah, I see. TBH, I don't really care where the leucine comes from as long as it doesn't negatively impact health and as long as the stuff is effective. LoL.
    Pubic hair is lower quality due to lack of vitamin d.
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    The fermented leucine will be better absorbed, and yes, it is not sourced from hair/duck feathers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    Pubic hair is lower quality due to lack of vitamin d.
    Not with my pubes. They are fortified with ABCDE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Question: why dose leucine with PF3? Would this skew the log results? Did you normally add leucine to your diet? Just curious.
    sure. in a big way though , our results are always skewed; people are eating different things, taking staple supplements with everything they try, and training differently. in the case of adding leucine, that is exactly what would happen to anyone buying pf3 on nutraplanet since theyre giving a free tub to anyone who buys it. anyway, leucine is considered a staple to supplement regimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    sure. in a big way though , our results are always skewed; people are eating different things, taking staple supplements with everything they try, and training differently. in the case of adding leucine, that is exactly what would happen to anyone buying pf3 on nutraplanet since theyre giving a free tub to anyone who buys it. anyway, leucine is considered a staple to supplement regimes
    Wait... it's up for sale on NP now?!?
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    Damn, considerably more expensive than Bio-Gro. Placed my order though. Will start running it after I finish this tub of Bio-Gro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Wait... it's up for sale on NP now?!?
    Yes it is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    Yes it is!
    Yup, grabbed one. Will give it a go after I finish my current tub of Bio-Gro. Do some compare and contrast most probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Yup, grabbed one. Will give it a go after I finish my current tub of Bio-Gro. Do some compare and contrast most probably.
    Oh yes that will be awesome!
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    Took grape pf3, mixed in some bulk SNS Agmatine, beta alanine, and citruline malate. Workout between clients at 6pm.
    Shoulders and arms. Yea buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Wait... it's up for sale on NP now?!?
    Yeah, Nutra always gets the good stuff as early as possible

    J-Bry, killing it so far my MAN
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Damn, considerably more expensive than Bio-Gro. Placed my order though. Will start running it after I finish this tub of Bio-Gro.
    Our raws are considerably more. Colostrum is cheap, and that is where the big price difference is coming from my MAN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpaquett View Post
    Our raws are considerably more. Colostrum is cheap, and that is where the big price difference is coming from my MAN.
    I see what you did there... :P
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    No heartburn symptoms since so must of been something else I ate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    The fermented leucine will be better absorbed, and yes, it is not sourced from hair/duck feathers.
    Mallard feathers are best used for calorie deficiencies, geese feathers more for hypertrophy.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    Mallard feathers are best used for calorie deficiencies, geese feathers more for hypertrophy.....
    Good to know
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    No heartburn symptoms since so must of been something else I ate.
    Dem der buffalo wings, probably
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Mallard feathers are best used for calorie deficiencies, geese feathers more for hypertrophy.....
    And wood ducks?
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    grape pf3 is a bit shocking at 3am when I wake up.
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