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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Is there a reason that it's a good idea to use leucine with it? For the insulin spike or to combo the protein synthesis signaling of the PF3 and the leucine?
    I am saying that the Leucine stacked with the PF3 post w/o will be the best bet for results. But everyone's different, that's just what I'm doin
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    I am saying that the Leucine stacked with the PF3 post w/o will be the best bet for results. But everyone's different, that's just what I'm doin
    that's what Ill be doing as well.

    and pre w/o.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    that's what Ill be doing as well.

    and pre w/o.
    Pre and post dosage with both is what ill be doing...
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  7. Had a suggestion to have a serving for intra workout.

    So I may do one intra, with leucine, and 2 post w/o
    And just a glass of whole milk at bfast

  8. It will be interesting to see how everyone decides to dose theirs. if I ever open my mailbox and find pf3 x2 with fermented leucine, I will take it as a sign from the heavens to dose 2 servings of pf3 with 1 servings fermented leucine twice daily for 25 days

  9. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Had a suggestion to have a serving for intra workout.

    So I may do one intra, with leucine, and 2 post w/o
    And just a glass of whole milk at bfast
    I would think 1-serving intra would be a good idea. The workout kicks off protein synthesis and the PF3 should super-charge that. I would assume that's why PF3 is in Game Day, because you're drinking Game Day before a workout so having the PF3 in your system should have some synergistic effect with the workout kicking your body off in protein synthesis mode.

  10. Noticing an increase in stomach acid. Minor heartburn symptoms last night in bed.

  11. Interesting. I haven't had that problem with any BCAA or Protein supplement. Usually not even with Pre-Workouts. Sandwiches with mayo on them are really the only thing that trigger heartburn. And alcohol (back when I drank).

  12. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Noticing an increase in stomach acid. Minor heartburn symptoms last night in bed.
    You think it's tied to the Betaine?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    You think it's tied to the Betaine?
    Possibly. If it doesn't get better, or worse, that will be a better indication.

    Too early though to put all the blame on it.

    Had sushi for lunch, and buffalo wings an veggies for dinner

    Wasn't hungry when I ate dinner, just ate cause I didn't want to wake up at 12 am starving.

    But only 2 servings of pf3 in the am an 2 servings the night before.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Noticing an increase in stomach acid. Minor heartburn symptoms last night in bed.
    interesting. jbry, you mentioned in another thread that you are taking drugs to reduce production of hcl due to your abnormally high production of it if you think what you are experiencing now is from the hcl content being too much for someone with your condition, then you are smart to be aware of that cause and effect relationship. i would say your doc is spot on with regards to his diagnosis of you having too much hcl if you are sure that the addition of supplemental hcl is aggravating things.. more water can dilute the effects of hcl and calcium supplements (particularly poorly absorbed ones like tums) will neutralize stomach acids, but running what youre supplementally taking by your doc is a good idea also

  15. I'll get my log up in the morning. Expecting my package tomorrow
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    interesting. jbry, you mentioned in another thread that you are taking drugs to reduce production of hcl due to your abnormally high production of it if you think what you are experiencing now is from the hcl content being too much for someone with your condition, then you are smart to be aware of that cause and effect relationship. i would say your doc is spot on with regards to his diagnosis of you having too much hcl if you are sure that the addition of supplemental hcl is aggravating things.. more water can dilute the effects of hcl and calcium supplements (particularly poorly absorbed ones like tums) will neutralize stomach acids, but running what youre supplementally taking by your doc is a good idea also
    could just be a false alarm though. we'll see. cant wait to hit shoulders/arms tomarrow.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    could just be a false alarm though. we'll see. cant wait to hit shoulders/arms tomarrow.
    ok.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    It will be interesting to see how everyone decides to dose theirs. if I ever open my mailbox and find pf3 x2 with fermented leucine, I will take it as a sign from the heavens to dose 2 servings of pf3 with 1 servings fermented leucine twice daily for 25 days
    4 servings daily? Due to weight or preference?

  19. I'm going to play with doses. Havent used whey in forever so it shouldn't be hard to gauge the difference
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    It will be interesting to see how everyone decides to dose theirs. if I ever open my mailbox and find pf3 x2 with fermented leucine, I will take it as a sign from the heavens to dose 2 servings of pf3 with 1 servings fermented leucine twice daily for 25 days
    I'll stay with 3 of each

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    4 servings daily? Due to weight or preference?
    i just like pushing the envelope with supplements i know are safe i suppose. ive been lifting 15 years straight and i guess ive acquired a kind of humility that guides me to throw all the nutrition i can into my body as provision for what im inevitably going to put it through. logically, i think 25 days is a good time in which to make determinations, and the more pronounced effects a higher dose could theoretically achieve, the more usefull it is to me in reaching that determination
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    better late than never, inn.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    i just like pushing the envelope with supplements i know are safe i suppose. ive been lifting 15 years straight and i guess ive acquired a kind of humility that guides me to throw all the nutrition i can into my body as provision for what im inevitably going to put it through. logically, i think 25 days is a good time in which to make determinations, and the more pronounced effects a higher dose could theoretically achieve, the more usefull it is to me in reaching that determination
    That's just silly.

  24. Serving of grape an leucine this morning with bfast.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Serving of grape an leucine this morning with bfast.
    Question: why dose leucine with PF3? Would this skew the log results? Did you normally add leucine to your diet? Just curious.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post

    Question: why dose leucine with PF3? Would this skew the log results? Did you normally add leucine to your diet? Just curious.
    Because they also sent me two tubs of their fermented leucine with the PF3.

    I think if it wasn't intended to be used, reviewed, they would of said so.

    And no, adding 2g of leucine to my pf3 I don't think is going to skew the results.

    Yes, I do normally use leucine. If you watched the review, you would of caught me mentioning my tub of Sns leucine I have.

    But if those at man would like me to run pf3 without leucine, I'll do so.

    Everyone can use more leucine though.

  27. So, why fermented leucine? First I've heard of fermented leucine.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    So, why fermented leucine? First I've heard of fermented leucine.
    I think that just means that it is derived from a vegetable source, like corn. That way you know it isn't made from feathers or hair

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    I think that just means that it is derived from a vegetable source, like corn. That way you know it isn't made from feathers or hair
    Ah, I see. TBH, I don't really care where the leucine comes from as long as it doesn't negatively impact health and as long as the stuff is effective. LoL.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Ah, I see. TBH, I don't really care where the leucine comes from as long as it doesn't negatively impact health and as long as the stuff is effective. LoL.
    Hehe, I hear you! Some people are grossed out by that, I think.

    I also think that it being fermented means that it is better quality, as it produced using microbial fermentation, rather than using chemicals.
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