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    Heres a funny fact about most gyms. If you limited yourself to the weights left on the floor /not put back you could still get an awesome workout. Gratz to the guy who left 5 45 plates on each side of the smith machine. I decided to challenge his weight. I won. 12 reps brother. Dont usually do smith machine squats either. Lol
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    Lol ^ nice!
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    6 reps on the first set of deads 11 reps on shoulder press
    35 for 6 reps on pull ups.
    3 new prs.

    Great agression so far.

    Sorry for the 2 days no update my daughter is going back to school and such. Fittest dad in the school it seems LOL!
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    I've really started noticing the strength gains.... I just hope I can keep them!
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    Rep prs on all my chest and tricep
    Weight on my flys went up 5 lbs

    Reps on legday went up aswell! From 15 to 17 on squats. Im feeling really strong at the moment. My calfs went up in sitting raises 5 lbs

    Hoping back day has more prs to come!
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    Hey Pyro..I'm back from vacation.....great log myman...keepin it honest and to the point...listen, how many days and/or caps do you have left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    Hey Pyro..I'm back from vacation.....great log myman...keepin it honest and to the point...listen, how many days and/or caps do you have left?
    I believe at 3 caps per day I should be finished by the 6th of September because I started on the 26th. Im 3 weeks or so in. Weigh in numbers this weekend.
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    Adding forearm training for fun. Wrist curls and twist .
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    Adding forearm training as a permanent.

    Prs on back day mostly reps. Went up in weight on rows 5 lbs .

    Shoulder day im up 5 lbs on military press and 5 lbs on deads.

    Weigh in shows im up 2 lbs.

    246. Im not measureing bodyfat because I dont give a crap. I look 13% to 15 . Im gearing up for a cut after this anyway haha!
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    Chest day was pretty amazing. Im only at 3 soft gels but my flat bench is up 5 lbs and im at 11 reps so next week ill be moving up and im adding a little size.

    My squat is up 5 lbs and I noticed a lot more power outa the hole. Teardrop is getting more defined thanks to max bulk,Jefferson squats,flexed pointed leg extension and wide stance leg press.
    Killer combo if you want more leg action.

    I tend to be able to add more volume on maxbulk sooner than other phs. Deff has great endurance.

    Today is back,bicep and forearm/grip. Yes im training grip the day before deads. Arrest me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Chest day was pretty amazing. Im only at 3 soft gels but my flat bench is up 5 lbs and im at 11 reps so next week ill be moving up and im adding a little size.

    My squat is up 5 lbs and I noticed a lot more power outa the hole. Teardrop is getting more defined thanks to max bulk,Jefferson squats,flexed pointed leg extension and wide stance leg press.
    Killer combo if you want more leg action.

    I tend to be able to add more volume on maxbulk sooner than other phs. Deff has great endurance.

    Today is back,bicep and forearm/grip. Yes im training grip the day before deads. Arrest me .
    I agree On the endurance
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    Okay so no prs on shoulder day. Had to get done early for a meeting.

    Im up 10 lbs on my rows. Significant to me atleast. But other than that I stayed the same.

    Im up another pound. Going to up calories by 150. Been busy at work hence these quick updates

    My balls arent shirnking and libido is boosted? Strange for a 19 nor haha!

    No side effects except more oily skin.
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    Clear your PM's

    I am still undecided between which one I want to take...I am looking for something comparable in strength and size gains to the likes of 10-15+... I mean a cycle of Hdrol and LMG will get 15lbs on you for cheaper price... not that price is the issue, but I am hoping this stuff is strong enough...or should I stack it with something?

    Will both products produce same gains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    Clear your PM's

    I am still undecided between which one I want to take...I am looking for something comparable in strength and size gains to the likes of 10-15+... I mean a cycle of Hdrol and LMG will get 15lbs on you for cheaper price... not that price is the issue, but I am hoping this stuff is strong enough...or should I stack it with something?

    Will both products produce same gains?
    Pms cleared
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    Chest day I went up in weight. 5 lbs on bench.
    My weighted pull ups I got to 8 reps with 35! Wholey crapp!

    Leg day had a massive leg press pr. Another 10 on each side which is 20 lbs total. Up to almost 4 plates

    My tear drop seems to be getting larger. Wide stance legpress and feet flexed pointing toes outward on the leg extension.

    My biceps are growing which is a problem area for me.

    My traps are definitely getting bigger. I work on tempo the first 3 sets of shrugs. First a very intense fast 15 reps and finish with a slow ear touching 8 to 12 with heavier weight.

    Deadlifting shall be today along with shoulders. I dont expect a dead pr cause im going off of the rack finally and lifting off the floor. Wish this tall drink of bulk good luck
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    Deads went well. Work is crazy. Pr on over head press. Up 10 lbs and up 15 on deads.

    My xmas tree is bulging brothers and sisters. Lower back is something I dont look at often. Its growing like crazy!

    Chest and leg updates tomorrow
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    Long tomorrow lol.

    Bench stayed the same. I went up 10 lbs on dips. Playing with tempo atm. My flat bench is done fast with little rest time. My incline is done slow and controlled.

    Legs pr in a major wayyyyy!
    Squatting 275 deep deep in the hole up from 250 when I started. I believe my depth has improved significantly. Even had a pr with weighted crunches.

    Back and biceps went good. Single arm cable rows are the **** when you finish up. My back has definitely grown more which is surprising because im a chest/back/leg genetic freak but they seemed to stall for the longest time.

    Shoulders was heaven. I went up another 5 lbs in the military press and I had enough oomph left to throw in an extra lateral raise. Surprised cause my shoulders have always lacked strenght.

    Grip is impressive. If you dont train grip I must suggest picking up plate pinchs. 2 5 lbs plates for 50 seconds makes you lift eaiser. My elbow pain has gone away sense I started training grip.


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    Sickens me the gains PH give! Lol those are big improvements on squats, killin it!
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    No change in leg day this week. Im downing 3700 calories by the way. Feel hungry still.

    Acne decided to show after what? 4 weeks? * estimate. *

    Libido has no change nor does ball size.

    Good run so far!
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    Final update on the 26th brothers! Stay tuned!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Final update on the 26th brothers! Stay tuned!
    Nice. Looking forward to it
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    Sub'd for final review
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    Final update.

    Heres the thing you have to realize is you only get as much as you put into these products and I gave it everything ive got. Up 8 pounds and all lifts have increased in weight. 20 lbs gained on flat bench. My squat has improved the most at a whopping 25lbs.

    My diet was as follows
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    I highly recommend max bulk for anyone looking for size. The things that grew the most were my lower back ,Traps back and bicep. I can see more xmas tree action than ever before. I love the ph gains haha! Ive got a little more to go on this train but in 30 days I have 8 more pounds with little to no bodyfat change. Simply amazing. This was only at 3 caps too. Perfect thing to use before my upcoming 24 week cut.

    Side effects wise I had an increase in libido,no prolactin issues and unlike the delivery system from primordial preformance's andro series no stomach or heart burn issues.
    I did notice a little water retention today. 4 weeks and none untill today is impressive considering the compounds.
    No oily skin as of yet
    Agression was definitely up and I felt ready to fight at any turn

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Final update.

    Heres the thing you have to realize is you only get as much as you put into these products and I gave it everything ive got. Up 8 pounds and all lifts have increased in weight. 20 lbs gained on flat bench. My squat has improved the most at a whopping 25lbs.

    My diet was as follows
    3700 calories *as now. Started at 3200*
    35% protein
    45% carbs
    20% fats



    I highly recommend max bulk for anyone looking for size. The things that grew the most were my lower back ,Traps back and bicep. I can see more xmas tree action than ever before. I love the ph gains haha! Ive got a little more to go on this train but in 30 days I have 8 more pounds with little to no bodyfat change. Simply amazing. This was only at 3 caps too. Perfect thing to use before my upcoming 24 week cut.

    Side effects wise I had an increase in libido,no prolactin issues and unlike the delivery system from primordial preformance's andro series no stomach or heart burn issues.
    I did notice a little water retention today. 4 weeks and none untill today is impressive considering the compounds.
    No oily skin as of yet
    Agression was definitely up and I felt ready to fight at any turn

    Thanks for the opportunity Androfactory has given me and thank you for following along.
    Thanks for the solid and honest review partner. Just goes to show like you said...higher dosage doesn't always mean better gains in the end when smart training and diet are dialed in. Good numbers!!
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    Wow nice final review 8 lbs with no fat is pretty impressive concidering how cut you are and I'd kill for those strength gains in just 30day I've spent 6 month of hard work to accomplish less.
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    How much of it will you lose tho?
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    These product aren't like methyls that make you put on a bunch of water weight that you don't keep. Also there a lot less surpressive than most methylated oral making it easier to keep your gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsy7 View Post
    How much of it will you lose tho?
    No one can answer that until pct is done. Also depends on the individual (pct, diet, training)

    But nad also had a good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    No one can answer that until pct is done. Also depends on the individual (pct, diet, training)

    But nad also had a good point
    This!

    Doesnt matter what you run ...you need a solid regime when coming off any cycle...which includes PCT supplements, training, diet and rest.
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    Pretty good gains. Had very similar (less weight) but was able to keep the few I gained.
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    It sounds like you ran a very thought out cycle. You took a great product and used it to the best of it's ability. I'm sure your pct is on point so you should completely keep your gains. Nice job man and great review!!
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    nice log! Up 8 lbs. in 4 weeks is great especially with a non-methylated prohormone.
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    solid review pyro. max bulk looks like a legit product.
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    How did PCT go? Do you feel upping your dose to 6 caps while on cycle or doing 3caps at 8 weeks would of returned more gains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    How did PCT go? Do you feel upping your dose to 6 caps while on cycle or doing 3caps at 8 weeks would of returned more gains?
    Waiting 3 weeks for bloodwork. Stay tuned. I think its going very well!
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    Bloods coming next friday!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Bloods coming next friday!
    Do you get this done regularly just to keep an eye on things? Sounds pretty cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilsy7 View Post

    Do you get this done regularly just to keep an eye on things? Sounds pretty cool
    Always. I get free bloods. I have a brain thingy. Wont try and spell it haha but needless to say free bloods when I want them. I'm going to be playing around with ostraine for 24 weeks here pretty soon. My big cut. Ima also inject hcg and taking t3. Also im gonna be using 8 weeks at full dose of lean cuts in the last 8 weeks when im reverse dieting.

    Bloods will be done at the end of that too. Ima be a lab rat so to speak. I will say this. I have seen bloods from 2 different people showing 30+weeks of use ostraine. I should also say in no way is this needed ever if you aren't going to compete one day. I am planing on it so dont copy me. Dont try this at home

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    I'll be curious to see how things look. Are you going to lay everything out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I'll be curious to see how things look. Are you going to lay everything out?

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    Yes. Are you talking for my cut or max bulk?
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