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    Tren is nasty business .

    Libido is pretty much static for me. In all fairness though I don't think its possible for mine to increase. My wife says I'm worse then a 15 year old boy. Either way coming off cycle can wreak havoc on libido but that's not the case at all for me .

    Overall I marvel at the results I'm getting .
    Increased sleep , glowing skin , strength has remained and vascularity is through the roof . I've got some crazy veins crossing all over my forearms and up from my elbow . Synergistic effects from Fomeron and Prolactrone are amazing so far . Could there be a better liver friendly cycle ?? I don't know
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    Ok so.....probably two things are contributing to this and both are very bad.

    1. blood pressure. I have had my blood pressure get to 195/110 on tren. I also had a cardiac arrest on tren and had to be revived. I now have a pacemaker implanted in my chest. DO NOT fuk around with your blood pressure. Buy a BP cuff and check it several times daily when on cycle.
    If it gets out of hand, get on blood pressure meds or pull the plug on the cycle. period.

    2. Dehydration. Tren makes me sweat like a whore in church.....if your not taking in 1-2 gallons of water daily you WILL be dehydrated even if you dont feel thirsty. 1 gal is the min i drink even off cycle....dehydration leads to all kinds of nasty things. A wel hydrated body and brain function at optimal levels.
    Stay hydrated.

    Prolactrone and excedrine will help but remember excedrine is a caffeine pill and will DEHYDRATE YOU lol. Its a diuretic.
    So..with the excedrine reach the 2 gal mark with water daily.

    Thx for the info Brundel..I'll definitely do what you mentioned but as far as blood pressure I think am fine so far but quick question are Ephedrine pills bad to take as a pre-workout supplement while on Tren and Test? My other question would be regarding "Prolactrone" where some people mentioned it causes Carpel Tunnel Syndrome..Is that true? And when would it subside fast if somebody ends up getting it? Thanks for your time bro.
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    The combo of formeron and prolactrone is actually a great otc cycle. The amazing thing is...after the cycle your endocrine system and hpta are actually functioning better than before
    This is in contrast to any aas.

    Ephedrine has been used for decades by bodybuilders for fat burning as well as a pre workout and overall stimulant. As far as a preworkout supp goes i think this is a personal preference. If your young and healthy with no heart issues and you dont overdo it ephedrine is fine. Do note that many people have died using ephedrine and it would be wise to respect its strength. Keep the dose low and watch your heart rate and especially body temp and you should be fine.
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    Carpel tunnel syndrome? never heard that one. I haven't noticed anything like that.

    As far as ephedrine goes can legit sources be found? I remember eating Ripped Fuel by twinlabs like it was candy. That and ultimate orange were staples to being able to lift the entire gym.
    I may have just dated myself with those two supplement references.
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    Elevated HGH levels can cause carpel tunnel syndrome, however, IF it occurs it is transient and will subside as soon as HGH levels normalize.
    Meaning if you stop using whats causing it itll go away
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    Tren is nasty business .

    Libido is pretty much static for me. In all fairness though I don't think its possible for mine to increase. My wife says I'm worse then a 15 year old boy. Either way coming off cycle can wreak havoc on libido but that's not the case at all for me .

    Overall I marvel at the results I'm getting .
    Increased sleep , glowing skin , strength has remained and vascularity is through the roof . I've got some crazy veins crossing all over my forearms and up from my elbow . Synergistic effects from Fomeron and Prolactrone are amazing so far . Could there be a better liver friendly cycle ?? I don't know
    This is so awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    Tren is nasty business .

    Libido is pretty much static for me. In all fairness though I don't think its possible for mine to increase. My wife says I'm worse then a 15 year old boy. Either way coming off cycle can wreak havoc on libido but that's not the case at all for me .

    Overall I marvel at the results I'm getting .
    Increased sleep , glowing skin , strength has remained and vascularity is through the roof . I've got some crazy veins crossing all over my forearms and up from my elbow . Synergistic effects from Fomeron and Prolactrone are amazing so far . Could there be a better liver friendly cycle ?? I don't know
    I'd say no. BLR is what's up.
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    Crappy picture I'll get some better ones.

    Point is almost 3 weeks on a OTC PCT featuring Fomeron and Prolactrone and I'm increasing size . I've lost nothing in the way of muscularity. When I carb down this coming week it should be sick the progress I'm making .





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    SO wait......I just want to make sure.....your GAINING in PCT?!?!
    How would you compare it to the cycle you ran before PCT?
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    Youll lose some weight when you drop carbs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    Crappy picture I'll get some better ones.

    Point is almost 3 weeks on a OTC PCT featuring Fomeron and Prolactrone and I'm increasing size . I've lost nothing in the way of muscularity. When I carb down this coming week it should be sick the progress I'm making .

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    Looking good man keep it up! I got a question for you Brundel, I have minor pain in my right wrist when I bend it upwards, what supplement or medicine I could take to make it better so I won't stop lifting since am on cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    SO wait......I just want to make sure.....your GAINING in PCT?!?!
    How would you compare it to the cycle you ran before PCT?
    Yes sir. I feel really amazing . I haven't lost any strength and have a very good increase of aggression .

    I need to reset but I would be very confident using this same PCT running say 6 weeks of epistane .

    I'm real experienced running epi and not using research chemicals would be a godsend . I'm thinking Fomeron , Prolactrone and DAA would be a very effective PCT for a mild methylated product like epistane or possibly halodrol.
    I'll get ripped by some for that comment but results are what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    Yes sir. I feel really amazing . I haven't lost any strength and have a very good increase of aggression .

    I need to reset but I would be very confident using this same PCT running say 6 weeks of epistane .

    I'm real experienced running epi and not using research chemicals would be a godsend . I'm thinking Fomeron , Prolactrone and DAA would be a very effective PCT for a mild methylated product like epistane or possibly halodrol.
    I'll get ripped by some for that comment but results are what they are.
    You shouldnt get ripped for it. The reality is this combo is sufficient as a PCT for ANY cycle. I am 100% confident.
    I have seen enough bloodwork now during PCT to know for sure that FOrmestane works very well for restoring HPTA function.
    Add a boost in HGH and some DAA and you have even a better PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    Looking good man keep it up! I got a question for you Brundel, I have minor pain in my right wrist when I bend it upwards, what supplement or medicine I could take to make it better so I won't stop lifting since am on cycle?
    1. stop bending it upward whenever possible.
    2. ibuprofen before training. Dont let it bend up when not training.
    3. get some wrist wraps. We plan on making BLR wraps soon but for now Harbinger makes good ones. (what I use)

    What caused the pain in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    1. stop bending it upward whenever possible.
    2. ibuprofen before training. Dont let it bend up when not training.
    3. get some wrist wraps. We plan on making BLR wraps soon but for now Harbinger makes good ones. (what I use)

    What caused the pain in the first place?
    Okay thanks for the help brother..I had a problem from lifting heavy on my flag bench 2 years ago and it keeps coming back every now and then and it bugs me a lot..I take "Naproxen" instead ibuprofen, is that fine? Another question for you, I've been on my Tren-A + Test-P for 9 days now and my nipples are fine and not sensitive but I could say they're just a little puffy sometimes..I started from day-1 on cycle taking 0.25mg of Arimidex EOD..Do you think that's enough or should I go on 0.5mg EOD instead to be on the safe side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    Okay thanks for the help brother..I had a problem from lifting heavy on my flag bench 2 years ago and it keeps coming back every now and then and it bugs me a lot..I take "Naproxen" instead ibuprofen, is that fine? Another question for you, I've been on my Tren-A + Test-P for 9 days now and my nipples are fine and not sensitive but I could say they're just a little puffy sometimes..I started from day-1 on cycle taking 0.25mg of Arimidex EOD..Do you think that's enough or should I go on 0.5mg EOD instead to be on the safe side?
    In order to properly assess required dose Ill need to know the doses of AAS.
    how much test
    how much tren
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    I'm doing 400mgs Tren-A "1cc EOD" and I'm doing 200mgs Test-P "0.5cc EOD"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    I'm doing 400mgs Tren-A "1cc EOD" and I'm doing 200mgs Test-P "0.5cc EOD"
    Prolactrone at least 2 caps per day but 3 is better.

    I prefer aromasin or formeron though as they are suicidal AI's. Arimidex can release a bunch of aromatase so...eod administration is not ideal.
    I think .25ed is better just so there is no rebound on the off days. Otherwise estro will be high one day and low the next but itll be a rollercoaster.
    ED is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    Prolactrone at least 2 caps per day but 3 is better.

    I prefer aromasin or formeron though as they are suicidal AI's. Arimidex can release a bunch of aromatase so...eod administration is not ideal.
    I think .25ed is better just so there is no rebound on the off days. Otherwise estro will be high one day and low the next but itll be a rollercoaster.
    ED is better.
    Thanks brother that's really helpful.
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    Hey brundel you think I'll need a PCT for this PCT ?? great results so far but I'm running 4 pumps a day.
    PCT is stronger then the cycle itself . Possibly some erase or similar product ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    Hey brundel you think I'll need a PCT for this PCT ?? great results so far but I'm running 4 pumps a day.
    PCT is stronger then the cycle itself . Possibly some erase or similar product ?
    NO! lol....

    Not a chance youll need a PCT. THIS IS YOUR PCT

    Your HPTA will be fully restored.

    Erase is an AI.
    Formeron is an AI. So it doesnt make sense to run an AI for PCT from a different AI.

    Formeron is anabolic yes but its NOT suppressive...At least not until you are in the super high dose range....800+mg daily. 4 pumps = 300mg
    Have faith my friend. Enjoy the PCT but remember it is a PCT.

    I had a feeling it would be better than your cycle. So...for those who are reading this.......
    Imagine going into your PCT expecting to continue gaining.
    Or at the very least feeling good during PCT.
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    I didn't really think so - back to back AI's seemed illogical . I just didn't expect to be getting stronger and keeping weight without upping calories.
    I planned effective recovery and keeping some gains but I feel better then when I was on cycle.
    Kinda hard to explain but it's not been a typical PCT. It's been a seamless transition into more effective workouts .
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    It is certainly unusual.
    Im glad its working this way. Most people who run Prolactrone and Formeron experience mild cycle like results
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    It is certainly unusual.
    Im glad its working this way. Most people who run Prolactrone and Formeron experience mild cycle like results
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    Brundel is it possible for somebody to start feeling gyno symptoms in 2 weeks being on a Tren+Test Cycle? And if it is possible, what dosage do you think I should run the Arimidex everyday to take care of it?
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    i have ran formestane too many times to remember, but prolactrone/formeron together looks insane...going to start saving up to get some of this!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    Brundel is it possible for somebody to start feeling gyno symptoms in 2 weeks being on a Tren+Test Cycle? And if it is possible, what dosage do you think I should run the Arimidex everyday to take care of it?
    Yes.
    What exactly are the symptoms? Gyno feels like glass (pain) under the nipples. Even wearing a shirt can be uncomfortable.
    usually there is a detectable lump. not puffyness. Like a mass under the nipples.

    1. where did you obtain your arimidex? If from a research chem site there is an 80+% chance its bunk or severely underdosed.
    ALL research chem sites are like this. Even if you have used them before with good results....doesnt mean anything.

    2. are you using anything to combat gyno from the tren?
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    A week into IF and I've been able to keep up with the strength even while losing 4 pounds ( by design ).

    Other then some slight fatigue from adjusting to a new eating plan this pct continues to be highly successful . Fomeron is helping me lean out for sure .
    Cut carbs add Fomeron = instant paper thin skin.

    No negatives even applying 4 pumps a day. No irritation or dry skin . One thing to note is I seem to be running low and I have a week left . It's possible I over pumped but removing the pump you can get product out by pouring . I'm going to wash the pump with hot water tonight .
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    It does seem to run dry fast. THis is a common complaint ,however, its not a fill issue.
    Everytime I hear this I pull a random bottle and pour it into a beaker. Its always right on.....never once been off.
    It may be that the pump "sometimes" pumps out more than expected.
    This pump is good though it doesnt leak ever.....toss up
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    I'm sure it's spot on . I poured out my dose today . After applying 4 times a day for almost a month I can eyeball a pump pretty good.
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    Yah there is a bunch left once the bottle stops pumping.
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    I haven't really focused on Prolactrone but I can't reports any sides from DAA powder. I've seen some adverse sides from DAA powder - stomach discomfort and itchy / puffy nips . I'm susceptible to those particular sides .

    I tried inhibit-P in the past and didn't really see much from it . Either I needed a higher dose/extra bottle or I didn't respond . Prolactrone seems to have knocked any sides out . No doubt the combo with Formeron is very effective at smashing prolactin and estrogen.

    When I say smash I mean more regulating . I don't have the typical low estrogen sides . No dry joints in particular . The combo really enhances the normal balance .
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post

    Yes.
    What exactly are the symptoms? Gyno feels like glass (pain) under the nipples. Even wearing a shirt can be uncomfortable.
    usually there is a detectable lump. not puffyness. Like a mass under the nipples.

    1. where did you obtain your arimidex? If from a research chem site there is an 80+% chance its bunk or severely underdosed.
    ALL research chem sites are like this. Even if you have used them before with good results....doesnt mean anything.

    2. are you using anything to combat gyno from the tren?
    Now the nipples are not that itchy anymore and I don't feel that soar weird feeling that I felt by my outer chest spot by the armpit area..The arimidex I got from a pharmacy so it's legit..I'm taking 0.5mg "half a pill" every day right now and I've been doing that for the last 5 days and I think it helped already cause I feel better bout this gyno issue..As far as the TREN gyno I'm not using anything to battle it other than taking 2 or 3 pills of Prolactrone by BLR everyday..Do you think I should get something just in case? So far I feel fine and my libido/sleep/mood are fine.
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    I think itll just take a bit for the gyno to subside. Give it 2-3 weeks and it should be gone. Unless its been there for years or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    I think itll just take a bit for the gyno to subside. Give it 2-3 weeks and it should be gone. Unless its been there for years or something.
    I got you bro..By the way if somebody ends up with some lumps under their nipples from a gear cycle, do you think Letro during or after a PCT will help take care of it and crush the gyno or no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALPH0NSE View Post
    I got you bro..By the way if somebody ends up with some lumps under their nipples from a gear cycle, do you think Letro during or after a PCT will help take care of it and crush the gyno or no?
    Depends on what caused it. If its from estrogen letro is a good choice. Just be aware that its VERY strong and will KILL your libido and mood and strength.
    So use sparingly. Better off using tamoxifen citrate and Formeron.
    The nolva will get rid of the gyno and the Formeron will lower your estrogen so it doesnt come back.
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