* R1's Mass FX log (sponsored) *

[R1balla]

First off, I want to say thank you to Athletic Xtreme for choosing me to log Mass FX! First, let me tell you what this product is claiming to do:

1.) Increase Free Testosterone
2.) Improve Insulin Sensitivity
3.) Boost EPO
4.) Reduce Estrogen
5.) People will be able to "feel" something in 3-5 days

Here is my source: Mass FX Clinical Study

I wont be getting any bloods done, but i can (for the most part) tell if my test is increased or if my estro is lower.

Other Supps I am Using: BioCor Creatine, BioCor Agmatine, BioCor Citmal, Primordial Performance Beta Alanine, Orange Triad.

Things I will monitor - Strength, libido, acne, aggression, body comp changes, endurance, weight gain/loss

Yesterday I tore ligaments in my ankle cant walk on my foot right now. Tomorrow I have an appointment with an orthopedic surgeon. If you want pics of my foot in the ER ill post em! So that being said, I will NOT be doing legs. I will be doing an AB workout routine of chest/biceps and back/triceps.


My workouts consist of low reps for the first lift of the day (usually a compound lift like bench). The rest of the workout I will hit 6-12 reps. I love supersets and drop sets so I will randomly throw that in there. I will try to keep my routine the same every week for the next 4 weeks so we can monitor strength.

My expectations: It will be interesting to see if I get any strength gains from this in only 4 weeks. the only product I have experienced real strength gains in 4 weeks (numbers up across the board almost) is Prime. I will monitor this and go hard every day!

Diet is a clean bulk. I train Monday/Wednesday/Friday. I trained yesterday (7/15) and did chest and biceps. Wednesday I will log my first training day whether the product comes in or not (so we have a baseline).

Thanks for following along!

 

[thebigt]

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[AZMIDLYF]

Sucks about the ankle big man. All the best with the recovery.

 

[R1balla]

Sucks about the ankle big man. All the best with the recovery.

Thanks man. Hope no surgery is needed. Either way won't keep me out of the gym lol

 

[Hyde]

third!!!

 

[Austinmck17]

subbed I'm using it right now

 

[R1balla]

subbed I'm using it right now

how long have u been on it? any effects yet?

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Yeah, the write up says you should be feeling it within 3 days.

 

[R1balla]

Great news! I will be logging two bottles for a total of eight weeks!

 

[Austinmck17]

running 3 caps a day and noticing better sleep and mood mostly. also endurance has gone up for high intensity exercise

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Thought the rec dose was 4 caps ed?

 

[thebigt]

Great news! I will be logging two bottles for a total of eight weeks!

lol...i asked and was told NO....guess i aint no fortunate son!!!

damn...going to have to go to viet nam....

 

[R1balla]

lol...i asked and was told NO....guess i aint no fortunate son!!!

damn...going to have to go to viet nam....

i didnt ask. apparently it was an accident but im happy!!!! If i do not like it after 4 weeks, I will ship the bottle to somebody else to log.

7/17

Today I did back and Triceps. Just wanted to give you guys an idea of how I train so you know what to expect. Today I had to do random crap because the gym was packed and couldnt do what i was wanting to do. I am going to try to keep my workout style A1 B1 A2 B2 and stay with that for 8 weeks. Today this is what I did. Let me know if you guys think this is too much volume or not. i dont think it is but i welcome other opinions.

Back

Lat Pulldown - 3 working sets 12,10,8
BB Row - 8,6,4
Wide Grip Pullups - 3 sets to failure
High Rope Pulls - 3 sets all drop sets

Triceps

Close Grip Bench - 12 10 8
Straight Bar Pushdown - 12 10 8
Skull Crusher - 10,8,6
Dips - 3 sets all drop sets (weighted)

Once i receive the package I will weigh in and start to log numbers with my lifts and keep the exercises as consistent as possible.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Are you DC training but pushing the rep range a little higher?

 

[R1balla]

Are you DC training but pushing the rep range a little higher?

no im not, but thats not a bad idea! i love trying new things. we will see. i was on P/RR/S a few months ago, have been on my normal 8-12 rep routine for about 6 weeks now. maybe time to change it up for this stack. I may stick to my A1 B1 A2 B2 but use DC style for the lifts with some supersets and drop sets on the accessory lifts. what do you think?

7/18

Received my product today! Going to start it first thing in the morning. 2 caps in the morning then 2 caps pre workout or 2 caps pre 2 caps post?

 

[Hyde]

Also got mine today, & wondering how best to dose it. If Athletic Xtreme doesn't have a recommendation I'm going bfast & preworkout/dinner #1 because it's convenient as heck. If it bothers my stomach for some reasone preworkout & before bed seem like a natural combo for a t-booster as well. Prob doesn't matter much as long as one dose is preworkout.

I'd call your volume perfect, if you just want opinions. Nice heavy hypertrophy routine with proven movements & no fluff.

 

[thebigt]

Also got mine today, & wondering how best to dose it. If Athletic Xtreme doesn't have a recommendation I'm going bfast & preworkout/dinner #1 because it's convenient as heck. If it bothers my stomach for some reasone preworkout & before bed seem like a natural combo for a t-booster as well. Prob doesn't matter much as long as one dose is preworkout.

I'd call your volume perfect, if you just want opinions. Nice heavy hypertrophy routine with proven movements & no fluff.

got mine today as well...you guys dosing empty or with food?

 

[Hyde]

With food, only way I know how baby - gotta eat to keep the muscle, right?

 

[thebigt]

With food, only way I know how baby - gotta eat to keep the muscle, right?

a few t-boosters have called for maybe 15-20 minutes before eating...ergopure and diesel test for example, but i agree, as a rule with food is best!!!

 

[AZMIDLYF]

I've always taken mine with meals.

 

[R1balla]

I've always taken mine with meals.

Have u tried without? Bottle says with glass of water.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

I haven't run MassFX but every other test booster that I have was taken with food.

 

[R1balla]

Wish we could get a rep in here or mr.cooper69 to help us out on timing of dosages.


Tomorrow (Friday) I will hit chest and biceps. hit it hard. I will weigh in first thing in the AM and start the log tomorrow when i get back from them gym. For now, I will dose 2 caps morning 2 caps with my pre workout meal.


Edit: mr.cooper69 instructed me to run 3 caps/day so I will listen to the wise one of the forum and do that. im with with that anyways...i can stay on the product longer!

 

[kenny76]

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[Cordeen]

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[Bnatural]

roll with 4 caps, not 3, YOU HAVE 2 bottles !!!!
get mrc69 in here and lets see why he said 3.
not mad, just curious.

running 3 caps a day and noticing better sleep and mood mostly. also endurance has gone up for high intensity exercise

mood is the interesting part, that's the first effect i got.
thanks for the quick insight!

lol...i asked and was told NO....guess i aint no fortunate son!!!

damn...going to have to go to viet nam....

it was a fat finger mistake. I hit 2 when i submitted his, honest mistake, and hey, you are welcome to buy a second bottle!
I think they have it at NP, and I have a code in my sig for all my special AM frands.
AX site only for the dc code.

 

[R1balla]

trying to get an answer from mr.cooper69 on 3 caps vs 4....

edit: from the man himself

"That much NMA may be detrimental to health, and 2g of Nettle is a TON. Also, 50mg Zinc is way too much to ingest daily, especially if you take a multi. You can get full doses of both NMA and Urtica (they're the 2 main ingredients) at 3 caps a day. Plus, your bottle lasts longer. There's really no downside except skimping on minor players like vanadium and boron, which are a different story altogether.

The avoidance pre-bed is because theobromine is a mild stimulant"

 

[R1balla]

7/19 -Day 1

Weight - 174 , 8% bf

Dosing - 1 cap with breakfast 1 cap pre workout meal 1 cap post workout meal

Today was a bad day at the gym number wise. I woke up many times during the night with foot pain which hindered my sleep. anyway, here are the numbers

Chest

Bench
135 warmup
225x12
235x8
245x5

Hammer Strength Incline - weight does not include machine weight
180x12
200x8
220x5

Machine Fly - drop sets
150x12
90x8
50x5

Biceps - had to cut it early because my foot was starting to hurt. still got some work in

BB Curl
45 warmup
95x7
85x12
65x17

Rope Hammer Curl - drop sets
35x10
30x12

Had to cut it short, but got solid work in today. Nothing to note really as it was only day one. weighed in. im really lean right now because im ending my cut but this stack I will be clean bulking so numbers should go up.

 

[R1balla]

7/20

Just wanted to give a quick weekend update. no problems sleeping whatsoever. the latest dosing im using is around 5-7PM and sleep fine. ready to get this product in my system over the weekend and give solid workouts in the gym. thanks for following along guys! any questions/suggestions/comments are welcome. no pride over here. i love learning.

 

[booneman77]

Subbed... Got 2 bottles of this on the shelf and have been waiting to see some results and dosing protocols. I too will be coming off a cut here in a few weeks and at a similar body comp so this is perfect. Good luck man keep up the solid updates!

 

[R1balla]

Subbed... Got 2 bottles of this on the shelf and have been waiting to see some results and dosing protocols. I too will be coming off a cut here in a few weeks and at a similar body comp so this is perfect. Good luck man keep up the solid updates!

always love logs because it gives people a chance to see what it can deliver.

 

[R1balla]

First post has been edited with other supplements I am currently using. Just the staples.

 

[Hyde]

Interesting thoughts on the ingredient dosing. I'll be sticking to 2 caps, 2x/ day for both convenience to dose with my fish oil & orange triad & such, as well as to see what the standard dosing will/won't do.

 

[R1balla]

Interesting thoughts on the ingredient dosing. I'll be sticking to 2 caps, 2x/ day for both convenience to dose with my fish oil & orange triad & such, as well as to see what the standard dosing will/won't do.

im glad you are dosing 4 caps so we can compare efficiency with the two.

 

[R1balla]

7/22 - Monday - B1

Today was Back and Triceps. Had a SOLID workout with high volume. Nothing really to note on any effects (both positive and negative) from Mass FX yet. Usually, at least for me, I dont start to see anything until late week 2 or early week 3. The numbers do NOT include the weight of the machine. Here are my numbers from today:

Back

Machine T bar Row - 45 - warmup
70x12
90x8
105x4

V Bar Seated Row - 3 second negs
135x12
150x10
165x8

Pullovers
90x12
110x10
140x8

High Rope Pull

3 sets superset with Reverse Grip tricep pulldown

Triceps

Skull Crusher
50x15
70x12
90x9

The rest of triceps were machine work. (rope extensions and stuff like that). B2 will be mostly free weights and compound lifts. I did a total of 12 sets on triceps and 12 on back.

 

[Hyde]

Nice skullcrushers man! Wish I could pull off the 90 with any decent form at all

 

[R1balla]

Nice skullcrushers man! Wish I could pull off the 90 with any decent form at all

Yeah the last two reps were more close grip bench hahah

 

[R1balla]

7/24 - A2 - Wednesday

Today was Chest and Biceps. Also was able to do leg extensions and hammy curls. gotta get some leg work in while my foot is broken. its actually healing very quick. Its been a week and a half and im off crutches and in a boot. Got a solid workout in today. One training day (A1 for example) i try to focus on machine work then the other (A2..etc) i do mainly free weights. Just to help you guys follow along. I think machine work can be very beneficial.

Chest

BB Incline - 135 warmup
185x12 (this was a mistake. thought it would be harder. I wanted to go low reps on incline)
225x5
235x3

Machine Flat Press (hammer strength)
185x12
220x10
225x8

Cable Flys
2 sets, both drop sets

Biceps

Preacher Curl (Hammer Strength) - 45 warmup
70x12
80x10
90x8

Incline DB Curl
25x12
30x8
35x4


Friday will be A1 day so it will be fun to track my progress. I will also weigh in on Friday.

 

[Hyde]

You notice any changes in hunger or anything?

 

[R1balla]

You notice any changes in hunger or anything?

The past three days I've been eating a ton l, always hungry. Didn't even connect the dots. How about you?

 

[AZMIDLYF]

BigT is saying the same thing

 

[R1balla]

7/25 - Thursday

Just wanted to give an update on what I am experiencing since I am starting to notice a few things

Negatives

libido is down

Acne starting to increase

Positives

Vascularity (not sure why)

Hunger Increase

Tomorrow (friday) I will weigh in and see what we are at!

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Libido part is definitely not good but the acne, while a pain, is a good sign of the added hormones.

 

[kenny76]

The libido thing kinda sucks but i have heard people report that from other stuff ive used such as erasr pro and ive nevrr had a problem yet. I just started compound 20 for the first time and im thinking of starting mass efx the second month of c20. I know ideally you want to run things alone first to see the effects but sometimes i feel there isnt enough months in the year and i already have plans for the winter. How do you guys feel they would stack for a recomp to slight bulk?

 

[R1balla]

The libido thing kinda sucks but i have heard people report that from other stuff ive used such as erasr pro and ive nevrr had a problem yet. I just started compound 20 for the first time and im thinking of starting mass efx the second month of c20. I know ideally you want to run things alone first to see the effects but sometimes i feel there isnt enough months in the year and i already have plans for the winter. How do you guys feel they would stack for a recomp to slight bulk?

i have no clue since this is my first time running mass fx. to be honest, i didnt notice anything from compound 20. i ran it twice at 8 weeks each. I think my results were from other products i used (i know this because i ran them solo before). just my assumption.

I will monitor libido. it could be attributed to anything really. if it continues, then we can start to say mass fx, but not yet. and Erase Pro did shut down my libido the second time i ran it.

 

[Bnatural]

Libido being down sucks. It was the opposite for me, but every one is different.
Hunger increase is normal, and you should notice better sleep.
Great log so far!

 

[R1balla]

Libido being down sucks. It was the opposite for me, but every one is different.
Hunger increase is normal, and you should notice better sleep.
Great log so far!

i have not read any reviews or logs or anything on this product so im going in blind and whatever i experience i experience. the way logs should be! loving it so far.

 

[Bnatural]

i have not read any reviews or logs or anything on this product so im going in blind and whatever i experience i experience. the way logs should be! loving it so far.

truth, effects are better to note when going in blind.
that way, there's little preconceived notions. positive or negative.

 

[R1balla]

truth, effects are better to note when going in blind.
that way, there's little preconceived notions. positive or negative.

Exactly.

 

[Hyde]

Hunger is up. Not massively, but when it comes time to eat I can put more away more easily it seems, and I'm always ready to eat these last few days it seems. Def up some, for better or worse.

Libido is up for this guy. Mood has been stellar, despite gf now being out of town. Haven't got any since wednesday & actually even better mood today than have been, if possible. BigT seems to be feeling positive too as of late. We'll have to see if this is a fluke or continues.