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    Hey guys, ace here.

    Recently got a bottle of AP with my tub of Oe protein. (which is the best tasting protein I've ever had, btw)

    Didn't take it the first few days, being that they've been low carb days. Figure I'll wait to start it on my high carb day Monday.


    For now, any dosing suggestions??
    Ie should I eat more carbs than usual while dosing, any preferred sources to consume after AP?
    (ex waxy maize vs basmati rice vs potato)

    Currently I am doing a prrs training program., will use this for anther month or two then i'm switching back to mountain dog.

    Diet is very clean. No fruit no gluten no sugar no dairy etc

    I cycle carbs. I do three high days a week, three low days, one moderate day.

    Macros are as follows:
    Pro 230-300
    Fat 110- 150
    Carbs 30- 400

    Carbs go up, fats and pro go down, vice Versa.

    My high days are between 250-400 carbs. Mostly Periworkout.
    medium day 100-200
    Low days 30-50

    Supplementation is just the essentials right now
    Oe Protein, mbcaas, enhanced, multi

    Anyway my goal is a slow recomp. I'm really happy with my cutting results I've dropped from 205- 182~
    And am quite leaner.

    But I do not feel like getting much leaner (not doing a show just throwing a mini cut into my bulk), below 180 I feel is too small.

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    whats your "low" carb intake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    whats your "low" carb intake?
    Thanks for joining.

    Low carb days are roughly between thirty and fifty. Then I do three high days a week between 200-400
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    subbed for ace, ap, and carb cycling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    subbed for ace, ap, and carb cycling
    Good to have ya man. Hope the gear isn't beating up your hips too bad

    Todays macros (roughly)
    50c
    150f
    300 p

    Todays eats:

    Meal 1 scrambled 2 Eggs/ 1Cwhites + 1 sweet potato

    Meal 2 10ozChicken + 2-3C greens + 1/4 C nuts

    Meal 3 two scoops Oe protein plus nuts

    Meal 4 same as meal two

    Meal 5 12oz 85% lean GD beef 4 tbsp natty peanut butter

    Right now greens are broccoli, asparagus, and green /wax beans

    During the week I have these along with spinach, mushrooms, onion, kale, lettuce, etc

    I don't count carbs from greens..

    Macros and amounts are rough estimates.. I just eyeball everything.
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    I'm in bro hope it treats you well
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    I'm in bro hope it treats you well
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    I'm in for this ace!

    Nice start man. AP activates the glucose transport protein GLUT4 in muscle cells (independent of exercise or insulin), which allows for the entry of glucose into those cells. Since both complex carbs and simple sugars end up as glucose, it can be used with most carb sources. I prefer using it before meals containing complex carbs more often than not.

    The recommended dosing is 1 cap twice daily, about 15-20 minutes before a minimum of 30g carbs. Each dose should be kept ~4 hours apart.

    Considering that your carb intake is mainly peri-workout, I'd recommend using AP before your pre-workout meal and the next carb containing meal after training. That's the approach that I've been using, while consuming almost all of my carbs peri-workout.
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    In on this. To answer your question about preferred carb sources, I would go for starches, so any of those three will work. Generally we recommend slower digesting carb sources with AP, because the immediate effects persist for quite a while. any of those three sources along with protein, fat, vegetables or whatever else you eat in a meal should be fine.
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    In for another epic Ace thread

    I'm glad breezy and classic got in here to answer your questions bud. Nothing more to add except I love me some AP :-)

    Enjoy bud
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    Scrambled eggs + sweet potatoe sounds like a werid combo. Do they actually taste good together? Or is it just what you had available to eat?
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    This is an awesome supplement, you will love

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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    I'm in for this ace!

    Nice start man. AP activates the transport protein GLUT4 in muscle cells (independent of exercise or insulin), which allows for the entry of glucose into those cells. Since both complex carbs and simple sugars end up as glucose, it can be used with most carb sources. I prefer using it before meals containing complex carbs more often than not.

    The recommended dosing is 1 cap twice daily, about 15-20 minutes before a minimum of 30g carbs. Each dose should be kept ~4 hours apart.

    Considering that your carb intake is mainly peri-workout, I'd recommend using AP before your pre-workout meal and the next carb containing meal after training. That's the approach that I've been using, while consuming almost all of my carbs peri-workout.
    I'm thinking I'll do it before breakfast (pre meal) then because it won't be four hours later I'll probably skip it with my waxy maize and whey, and have it with my first actual whole food post meal..
    how's that?

    Quote Originally Posted by classic34 View Post
    In on this. To answer your question about preferred carb sources, I would go for starches, so any of those three will work. Generally we recommend slower digesting carb sources with AP, because the immediate effects persist for quite a while. any of those three sources along with protein, fat, vegetables or whatever else you eat in a meal should be fine.
    Awesome, didn't know that.

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    In for another epic Ace thread

    I'm glad breezy and classic got in here to answer your questions bud. Nothing more to add except I love me some AP :-)

    Enjoy bud
    Excellent.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Scrambled eggs + sweet potatoe sounds like a werid combo. Do they actually taste good together? Or is it just what you had available to eat?
    I eat them together regularly.. I usually don't mix them together, but sometimes I do. Pretty good combo...I usually eat basmati with my eggs tho

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    looking forward to it. Never tried it before.


    Thanks for the info and suggestions, and thanks for following along peeps!


    Also, today is off day, means low day. Macros and food will be identical to yesterday
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    I eat them together regularly.. I usually don't mix them together, but sometimes I do. Pretty good combo...I usually eat basmati with my eggs tho
    I love eggs and rice with a dash of soy sauce. I've never tried the sweet potato/egg combo but it sounds like it might be good as long as the potato isn't sweetened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    I'm thinking I'll do it before breakfast (pre meal) then because it won't be four hours later I'll probably skip it with my waxy maize and whey, and have it with my first actual whole food post meal..
    how's that?
    Looks solid man. That's exactly how I'm using it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by classic34 View Post

    I love eggs and rice with a dash of soy sauce. I've never tried the sweet potato/egg combo but it sounds like it might be good as long as the potato isn't sweetened.
    Whole eggs over basmati rice with Franks red hot on top ))

    No sweetening on the sweet.

    I've eaten it separate as well as mixed together in a bowl..
    Next time I mix I might add almond milk.

    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Looks solid man. That's exactly how I'm using it as well.
    Thanks again. Looking forward to tomorrow, high carb plus AP
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    just got this with the oxyprotein deal, looking forward to see how u run it and how it treats u before i dig into mine!! rip it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    Whole eggs over basmati rice with Franks red hot on top ))No sweetening on the sweet.I've eaten it separate as well as mixed together in a bowl..Next time I mix I might add almond milk.
    Eh, not a fan of Frank's Red Hot. Almond milk sounds...interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    Whole eggs over basmati rice with Franks red hot on top ))

    Thanks again. Looking forward to tomorrow, high carb plus AP
    Nice. I love Frank's with eggs, but have been on a Sriracha kick lately. Sometimes I'll add them to the eggs before cooking.

    No problem bud.

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    just got this with the oxyprotein deal, looking forward to see how u run it and how it treats u before i dig into mine!! rip it up!
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    Eh, not a fan of Frank's Red Hot.
    Ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    just got this with the oxyprotein deal, looking forward to see how u run it and how it treats u before i dig into mine!! rip it up!
    Cool man thanks for joining.

    Quote Originally Posted by classic34 View Post
    Eh, not a fan of Frank's Red Hot. Almond milk sounds...interesting.
    Whaaaaaattt?! I LOVE Franks on eggs.

    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Nice. I love Frank's with eggs, but have been on a Sriracha kick lately. Sometimes I'll add them to the eggs before cooking.

    No problem bud.

    Thanks for the support mkretz!

    Ridiculous.
    Yeah siracha is great, one of my favorites for everything else, but I cannot stop putting Franks on eggs
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    I over did franks during my prep lol. I'm on a Chalua kick now.

    Whole eggs over basmati (runny yolks) FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Whole eggs over basmati (runny yolks) FTW
    This.

    Also, update, took AP about 15 minutes before breakfast.
    No food pump but I trained legs and upper body looks Fuller.

    Meal 1
    1.5C basmati, 3 whole eggs 1c whites

    1hr later, foam roll, set hips, Train legs, 2 scoops jack3d micro (sample pack)
    2 scoops mbcaa intra

    Post /meal 2
    75g waxy maize
    1 scoop dymatize elite whey
    1 scoop dymatize xt protein
    5g glutamine

    (I know I know, should have done oe pro, but it's TOO GOOD to mix with waxy maize)

    Just took 1 AP, going to eat in fifteen.

    Meal 3
    2c basmati
    8-10oz chicken

    M4
    2c basmati
    Asparagus
    ~10Oz 96/4 GD sirloin
    Few spoonfuls of baked beans
    Add mustard and Franks (ran out of siracha :[ ) mix it all together

    M5
    8-10oz steak
    Asparagus
    ~2 Tbsp natural peanut butter

    macros:
    ~380c
    ~90 f
    ~ 300p

    Prob will have another meal, maybe two. Not sure.

    Will update with rest of food later, maybe training if you'd like to see it
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    Yes Ace please post up your training. I'll be interested to see any changes over the course of this log.
    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    I over did franks during my prep lol. I'm on a Chalua kick now. Whole eggs over basmati (runny yolks) FTW
    Alright, that's it... I'm firing up the rice cooker.
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    Felt ****ty today from switching my sleep schedule 180° due to work, so went lighter
    As you know I am currently doing prrs, planned for another three Weeks then deloading and doing a mountain dog program.

    Shock week, legs

    Standing freemotion single leg curls Ss single leg bw sldl
    60x4x15 // 4x20


    Front squat Ss standing freemotion leg extension
    185x4x15 // 40x4x15


    unilateral leg press pyramid
    starting with one plate up to four then back down again each ten reps.

    Donkey calf raise Ss standing calf raise Ss dorsiflexion
    Three rounds
    190x15 // 400x10 // bwx20

    hyper extensions Ss hanging leg raise
    Three rounds, no weight
    40// 15


    no cardio besides my fifteen minute bike ride with my dog, alternating between riding on concrete, sprinting on concrete with the brakes on, and sprinting on the grass
    Mini hiit session.

    For those who didn't know,,I tore my hamstring a month or so ago so I've been training my legs much lighter than I'd like to be.
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    Solid leg session ace. Does your hamstring limit what exercises you can do, or mainly the weight used at this point?

    The food looks good too man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Solid leg session ace. Does your hamstring limit what exercises you can do, or mainly the weight used at this point?

    The food looks good too man.
    At first, it was both..

    For a good month or two I couldn't even train legs, let alone barely walk.

    Now I can do most exercises but I've been keeping them light.

    As of now, when I do regular squats I have to go light because sitting back makes my ham feel like it's going to pop, again.

    we have two ghr at my gym, the actual good one, I cannot use yet. It puts too much pressure on the back of my knee, making it feel like it'll tear again.

    I hate it. I feel like such a b1tch squatting 155.

    Whatever though just have to work around it. No lie my quads are pretty thrashed this morning.. must have been the back to back sets, literally the only rest yesterday was how long it took my bro to complete the sets


    I figure I'll let it heal, keep it light, and i'm sure I won't be squatting too heavy with MD so by the time I finish that i'm hoping that not only will my wheels grow, but I'll be ready to squat heavy again.

    As a BB, my legs are a glaring weakness. I know this seems opposite to logic, but before I tore my ****, my legs blew up from squatting 350-400 on the regular
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    06/24

    M1
    1AP 15 min before
    1.5 c basmati
    3 whole eggs,1c whites
    ~1L water

    1hr later sample pack of micro abs 1/3 scoop pump hd

    Intra 2 scoops mbcaa 1L h20

    M2/ post
    75g waxy maize
    1 scoop dymatize elite whey iso
    1 scoop dymatize elite xt
    5g glu
    ~800mL h20

    M3
    2c basmati
    ~4Oz 85/15 GD beef
    ~6Oz chicken breast
    Half bag spinach

    M4
    1.5c basmati
    ~9oz chicken breast
    Salad with lettuce and spinach

    M5
    2scoops OE protein blended with water, ice, and two tbsp natty jif pb

    -i've said it before I'll say it again, usp labs has done an amazing job with this protein, the vanilla is some of the best i've ever had

    M6
    One big badass omelette. I wish I would have took a picture. It filled a plate 8" in diameter.
    1c whites mixed with 3 whole eggs
    ~6oz English eye steak diced and sauteed in butter, onion, garlic, salt, mushrooms and with a strip of bacon
    A few small slices of smoked gouda to top it off.

    Macros (rough)
    ~325 c
    ~100 f
    ~350 p
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    Figured I'd post my training in a separate post.

    06/25 shock upper

    seated DB rear delt fly ss fat man rows
    25x20, 35x3x15 // Bw x4x12

    - palms facing backwards for rd
    -elbows at 90° with body for both

    Db lateral raises ss fat bar seated ohp
    20x5x20 // bar + 40(per side)x5x12

    -last set dropset on each
    -the fat bar is light, prob 30-40lb

    Free motion cable chest fly ss slight incline DB twist press
    23x4x20 // 50x4x10

    Last set dropset on each

    BB flat bandell press ss fat bar pushup
    Three 10lb KB per side x 4x15 // Bw x4x12

    -we no longer have a bandell bar so I used a regular BB, making the movement more stable than a traditional bandell bar

    CG supinating pulldowns ss baseball high pulley pullovers
    110 x4 x8 // 60x4x 8

    -last set dropset each


    I haven't achieved a pump of this level in quite some time.

    Not quite sure what it was from, whether the AP, mixed pre's, or exercise combinations, but it was so extreme it hurt.

    Felt like king Kong walking out of there.

    Edit: about six hours after training I took my dog on a bike ride, about fifteen minutes with some 50yd sprints in there I think it was eight.
    Two in the grass, the remaining six I did on the concrete with my brakes applied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    At first, it was both..

    For a good month or two I couldn't even train legs, let alone barely walk.

    Now I can do most exercises but I've been keeping them light.

    As of now, when I do regular squats I have to go light because sitting back makes my ham feel like it's going to pop, again.

    we have two ghr at my gym, the actual good one, I cannot use yet. It puts too much pressure on the back of my knee, making it feel like it'll tear again.

    I hate it. I feel like such a b1tch squatting 155.

    Whatever though just have to work around it. No lie my quads are pretty thrashed this morning.. must have been the back to back sets, literally the only rest yesterday was how long it took my bro to complete the sets


    I figure I'll let it heal, keep it light, and i'm sure I won't be squatting too heavy with MD so by the time I finish that i'm hoping that not only will my wheels grow, but I'll be ready to squat heavy again.

    As a BB, my legs are a glaring weakness. I know this seems opposite to logic, but before I tore my ****, my legs blew up from squatting 350-400 on the regular
    I'm glad that you've been able to work around it and continue to make progress man. Yeah, MD is brutal, but will be a nice break from the heavy weight. I had a couple nagging injuries that have completely gone away during my MD run. I'm sure that you'll be back to squatting heavy soon enough.
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    The meals are making me hungry ace!

    As you already know, don't worry about weight on squats bud. I've followed you since I've been on AM, I know you're a beast :-). Just let that thing heal and you'll be back to squatting heavy in no time bud!!
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    Thanks bean.
    Notes today, looking quite full today. Still pretty dry too for how I've been eating.
    Pump in the gym was ridiculous.
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    06/26

    Food thus far today, low day

    M1
    1.5c basmati
    1c whites 3 whole eggs

    Trained arms 1hr later, 1 scoop pump hd pre
    2 scoops mbcaa intra

    M2/post
    25 g waxy maize
    2 scoops protein
    5g glu

    M3
    6oz round eye steak diced and sauteed in onions, garlic, dash of Laury's seasoning
    4 whole eggs
    15 g whites
    Large spinach/lettuce salad (no dressing)

    M4
    ~10-12Oz new York strip plus wax beans and broccoli

    M5
    8oz 90/10 gd sirloin
    3 chicken sausages
    Mixed together on a plate with onion, pickles, mustard, and Franks (really wish I had siracha instead)
    Two tbsp natty pb

    Macros
    F 150
    C 100
    P320

    Training, shock week, arms
    Started with tris, then bis

    One arm palm up high pulley extension ss bench dips
    20x5x10 // bw x5x15

    Decline ez skulls ss db pronated kickbacks
    85 x4x12 // 20x4x10

    One dropset high pulley rope extensions with my hard grip4orce's

    Strict incline DB curls ss BB curls
    20x5x15 // 70x5x10

    Preacher curl machine ss reverse barbell curls ( with g4)
    4 x 12 // 50x4x15

    One dropset low pulley 1.5 cable curls

    Pumps were again painful today. Not sure if ap or pump hd

    Like I said earlier I was looking very full and round, especially my Delts. Leanness is about the same.


    Going to bike with my dog later
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    Also, my macros are slightly off.
    besides the rounding, I had two beers, I ****ed up.
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    Edit.
    Man, for only 100c today I'm feeling and looking quite full.
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    06/27
    woke up looking quite full for a low day yesterday, and still quite lean for all the extra stuff I've been eating (cheese, chicken sausage, etc).
    Feeling good today going to go train back shortly..

    M1 (1 AP fifteen minutes before)
    2c basmati
    1c whites, 2 whole eggs

    1hr later train
    3/4 pump hd + a sprinkle of enhanced from what was left in my tub.. May she rest in peace.
    Please, a moment of silence.
    ...
    ...
    ... Thank you.
    Trained back, was great.
    2 scoops mbcaa intra

    M2 / post shake
    100 g waxy maize
    1 scoop dymatize elite whey
    1 scoop dymatize elite xt

    M3 (AP 10 min prior)
    2c basmati
    ~9oz chicken

    M4
    ~9Oz sweet potato with a few scoops of mashed Yukon golds
    ~9Oz chicken
    Bit of broccoli

    M5
    8oz 95% GD sirloin
    One smoked chicken sausage

    Cut up stirred together with pickles, onion, and those peppers that are like peppercini but spicy add mustard and siracha.

    Macros
    C ~400
    F ~50
    P~300


    Trained back today, shock week

    Rack rows ss supinating db row
    315x 8, 365 x4x8 // 50x5x10

    Tri set:
    Snatch grip high pulls ss chest supported rows ss head down DB rear delt fly(2 angles)

    135x10 // 3# x10 // 20x12
    155x8 // " // "
    175x8// " // "
    185x2x6 // " // "

    - the #is 45 lb plates per side, it was a unilateral chest sup row
    - for the rear delt flys I did twelve reps at each arm angle. First was 90° palms focusing on rear delt second was around 40° more lat and scap action

    Swiss grip pulldowns
    110 x3x6

    -did six reps at each hand position each set, inside to middle to out, outside to middle to inside

    one dropset on high pulley face pulls, six or so drops

    Reverse hyper ss 45° hyper ss ab wheel
    100x3x10 // 35 plate x3x10 // 3x15

    -I did not swing my reverse Hyper.. Up on elbows hips on the edge, really control the negative, stop it, explode up, then hold for a second
    -dropset on the 45

    Finished with two good ol sets of neck curls
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    Fuller + still dry = win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    In bro!
    Welcome, just updated my post for todays training and diet

    Quote Originally Posted by classic34 View Post
    Fuller + still dry = win.
    Yeah, I love carb cycling. As long as I keep it pretty clean I can still stay dry and I just fill up like a balloon.

    I've been noticing I feel and look Fuller this week.. Hmmm
  

  
 

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