A very stimul8ed Mattys4

[mattys4]

Hi guys so Ill be Beta-testing finaflex Stimul8. 10 servings Ill probably give one or two to the wife (docbrown) so we can get a few opinions on this thread here.

Today is day one.

18 days out from competing for my IFBB pro card at Team Universe

First off thought I would have a $hitty workout today I had a last minute photo shoot and really had to dry out fast no diuretics just hoodied up stepmill and sauna so that really took a toll on me yesterday. Also carbed up big time to look full at the shoot dirty style probably like 600c yesterday so I had quite the sugar hangover this morning

My stim use lately has been

75 mg ephedrine ED
2-3 scoops OEP powder ED
200-400mg caffeine ED

First impressions

Mixed well one scoop in shaker 8oz water just swirled it around mixed perfect
Taste was great I like apple

now to the good stuff since those have no relevance towards effectiveness

Stim factor = mind blown, I wasn't expecting much since ive been running quite a few stims lately but dayyyuum this was great
Hang time = Jordan status 7 hours after first dose was scared to take ephedrine pre PM cardio session ( I did though successfully)
Pumps..... I take 50g vitargo or glycofuse pre and another 50 or so intra so I get crazy pumps and veins regardless so nothing to note here
Mood enhancement.... this was something I noticed not sure if it was from the total workout domination or actual mood enhancement from the product something il keep an eye on though

I did feel pretty uncomfortable and irritable before 4-5 hours after dosing doubt its related to the product most likely has to do with recovering from the drying out process yesterday and excess carb intake

Todays workout

Push day
12 sets chest
9 sets shoulders
9 sets triceps

65 minutes total

PM
20 minutes HIIT 12 sets calves.

Ill try to keep this about stimul8 but if anyone wants more details about my diet and training or contest prep please ask.

 

[Montego1]

First!

 

[MrKleen73]

Looks good and to feel it like that after being on that much other stims it is quite impressive!

 

[wasme]

In Matty... interested in your thoughts on stimul8 but also anything else you wanna share..

 

[mattys4]

First!

you win!!!

Looks good and to feel it like that after being on that much other stims it is quite impressive!

yes this stuff is strong I was fired up today. Impressive since my preworkout lately has been 25mg ephedrine 1 scoop oep

In Matty... interested in your thoughts on stimul8 but also anything else you wanna share..

Stimul8ed was a good first experience I think itll be better tomorrow since my diet is on point today and Ill be properly hydrated. Feel free to ask whatever wasme I can talk abot anything LOL

 

[iparatroop]

That much stim after E for your normal PWO? Mmmmm, sounds good.

 

[edje007]

Following as always....show us what you got champ

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

In for the matty pro card.

I can't wait for this stuff

 

[bean5er]

I guess I'll sit in on this

 

[mattys4]

That much stim after E for your normal PWO? Mmmmm, sounds good.

yes I was impressed... honestly wasn't expecting much but proved myself very wrong

Following as always....show us what you got champ

thanks buddy

In for the matty pro card.

I can't wait for this stuff

2 shots at it this year 17 days out right now

I guess I'll sit in on this

thanks for subn

 

[mattys4]

Another bad ass workout

back rear delts traps bis

33 sets total 65 minutes

Killed it today

Again very impressed with the power of this stuff I need more rene had some today too so its going too fast LOL

Strong long lasting stim factor, not that dirty stim out of breath feeling its really nice and clean and strong

Things I noticed was frequent cold chills and goosebumps, sweating my ass off at the gym and being cold LOL. Don't think this is a negative effect just something ive noticed today and yesterday


Heres some Pimp shots from my photo shoot on Monday (Jamie Dominic Photography)

 

[Montego1]

You are the third beta I've seen experiencing cold chills. How did the doc like it?

 

[MrKleen73]

I always either get cold chills or cold hands from stronger stims. Figured the chills are from an uncharacteristically hot body and light sweat being hit by cooler air.

Matt these pics are awesome, already saw them on facebook but still impressed every time I see them.

 

[mattys4]

You are the third beta I've seen experiencing cold chills. How did the doc like it?

Doc is in the office being a Dr. I cant go in there LOL ill ask her later first update was slight nausea but passed quickly an strong stim effect she used it pre work though not preworkout so Im sure we will get a better opinion tomorrow.

Ya crazy cold chills and just cold in general had to sweat suit up at home to stop shivering

I always either get cold chills or cold hands from stronger stims. Figured the chills are from an uncharacteristically hot body and light sweat being hit by cooler air.

Matt these pics are awesome, already saw them on facebook but still impressed every time I see them.

Thanks Kleen Jamie Domininc my favorite photographer... I have another shoot with him next week. well the 29th

I usually don't get the cold chills from stims even ephedrine, this is a strong stim and good strong doesn't feel "dirty" to me anyway.

 

[mattys4]

DocBrowns cliffnotes

1) slight nausea after about 20 minutes but subsides fast
2) strong stim factor
3) lots of staying power
4) rough crash after about 5hours

Ive also noticed that when I take my stims before my PM workout 7-8 hours after Stimul8 they seem to have no effect. I will try 1/2 scoop stim8 pre PM wprkout tomorrow see how that goes

 

[wasme]

Great pics bro... good luck with that pro card.

 

[mattys4]

A little.vascular today..... It was leg dat

 

[iparatroop]

Where are you sitting, BF% wise Matty? Just out of curiosity.

 

[MrKleen73]

I would say about Ripped as fug%.

 

[Montego1]

I would say about Ripped as fug%.

Lol

 

[mattys4]

Where are you sitting, BF% wise Matty? Just out of curiosity.

I have no idea, no access to a BODPOD and other methods...... you might as well just pick a number out of a hat

I would say about Ripped as fug%.

I would say this is a close estimate, that's how I determine my BF% what I see in the mirror. Though a lot of times water can be confused with fat

Lol

 

[bean5er]

Easily sub 6%

Ripped and vascular bud!

 

[edje007]

Another bad ass workout

back rear delts traps bis

33 sets total 65 minutes

Killed it today

Again very impressed with the power of this stuff I need more rene had some today too so its going too fast LOL

Strong long lasting stim factor, not that dirty stim out of breath feeling its really nice and clean and strong

Things I noticed was frequent cold chills and goosebumps, sweating my ass off at the gym and being cold LOL. Don't think this is a negative effect just something ive noticed today and yesterday

Heres some Pimp shots from my photo shoot on Monday (Jamie Dominic Photography)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/6ro1.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/bidx.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/rzs1.jpg/

Amazing pics...very cool, like they just came out of the FLEX magazine...

Stimul8 treating you well I see...can't wait for it myself.....well, when I get things organised around here.....

 

[mattys4]

quick update very busy day last minute photo shoot and then my dads retirement party tonight.

Took stimul8 about 20 minutes after preworkout meal. I waited about 45 the last two days.

Taking it closer to food negated some of the effects. I got no cold chills or crash, but also the DAMN THIS $HIT IS STRONG feeling wasn't there either. was able to take 50mgs ephedrine and 2 scoops oep throughout the day as well where as the last 2 days I was so stimmed out I was scared to take any more for 6-8hours LOL

Oh ya my preworkout meal is..

~30g WPI
~40g vitargo
~1tbs natty PB

 

[iparatroop]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you are pretty stim tolerant.

 

[mattys4]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you are pretty stim tolerant.

I would benefit from a period of.time free of stims.

 

[wasme]

I would benefit from a period of.time free of stims.

I would too, I feel like crap when I don't have the EC stack running through me..

 

[mattys4]

I would too, I feel like crap when I don't have the EC stack running through me..

Im going to take two weeks off i think after this next show. But i definitly agree that ec makes daily activities much easier

 

[wasme]

Do you think it messes with the metabolism a bit much though? I find if i come off an take a break from it. I instantly gain bodyfat.

 

[bean5er]

I'm on day three of no stims whatsoever lol. Not too bad really. A few headaches but those will diminish. EC stack is hard to come off of and I felt like garbage for two days then it levels out.

 

[wasme]

I'm on day three of no stims whatsoever lol. Not too bad really. A few headaches but those will diminish. EC stack is hard to come off of and I felt like garbage for two days then it levels out.

I find when I take a break from EC it takes me 4-5 days to shake that dragging my a$$ feeling, where I just want to fall asleep all day.

 

[bean5er]

I find when I take a break from EC it takes me 4-5 days to shake that dragging my a$$ feeling, where I just want to fall asleep all day.

I may have been that for me too. I'm all honesty I was in a serious food coma during that so it was hard to tell. Lol. I'm doing real well right now actually day three and no headaches thus far. BP was a bit elevated so I kicked the stims for a while. ;-)

 

[MrKleen73]

Yeah I bet the being close to the Peanut Butter could knock some of the edge off of it.

 

[Montego1]

Yeah I bet the being close to the Peanut Butter could knock some of the edge off of it.

I'm going to mix my Stimul8 on a spoon with PB and have a Stimul8 popsicle. Mmmmmmm

 

[mattys4]

27 working sets today. Chest/shoulders/tris 60 minutes total

Focus and intensity were great some cold chills but they seem to be less powerfull

Side.note i felt shrink wrapped today doing cable.flys my skun felt like it was going to tear it was awesome lol

 

[Montego1]

Nice nice. Tight skin for the win.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Im going to take two weeks off i think after this next show. But i definitly agree that ec makes daily activities much easier

if you been on stim product for a long duration which I would assume (thruout prep?), you may want to take more than 2 weeks off when you're done showing..
who needs a fatburner or stims in PCT and/or after-show recovery timeframe?
push the cals and get your energy from foods for awhile...

looking great, as usual!

I'm going to mix my Stimul8 on a spoon with PB and have a Stimul8 popsicle. Mmmmmmm

lol


disclaimer: we do not advise consuming Stimul8 in this fashion

 

[mattys4]

if you been on stim product for a long duration which I would assume (thruout prep?), you may want to take more than 2 weeks off when you're done showing..
who needs a fatburner or stims in PCT and/or after-show recovery timeframe?
push the cals and get your energy from foods for awhile...

looking great, as usual!

Hey thanks man. I have two more shows in august so no break for me until after that. Two weeks mental health break from heavy stims and fat burners then right back into prep mode

 

[mattys4]

Last day so sad......

I need more of this like now

Final review will be up soon

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Keen for review

 

[MrKleen73]

Looks like this one was a major win with you Matt.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

damn, already? time just flew by, must be stimul8ed as well..
:run:

 

[Montego1]

The doc was sharing in his endeavor I believe.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

The doc was sharing in his endeavor I believe.

taroo
look forward to both matt & doc's perspectives!

 

[edje007]

Same here...

 

[wasme]

Last day so sad......

I need more of this like now

Final review will be up soon

That's a review in itself...

 

[edje007]

That's a review in itself...

It pretty much says it all....stimul8 delivers!!!

 

[Montego1]

Welllllll?

 

[mattys4]

So i had saved one scoop for a special.occasion.... Dafaq happened in here???? Weird

 

[snagencyV2.0]

yes matty - we have seen that a few of the testers have experienced this same thing..we have already taken steps to diagnose and rectify the issue
thanks for providing additional feedback on such

speaking of feedback: a request, if you would please post up final review, I know you've been busy with shows and whatnot no worries, but we need to gather all this feedback now so we can release the product for retail in timely fashion

thank you in advance for your attention and follow-thru!