One of the first to get STIMUL8ED!!!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Not to be a turd but you are not supposed to hold your breath like that when lifting. You should be able to keep you belly full of air so to speak and still breathe. What you experiences was called the valsalva effect. It happens automatically as a survival method when you hold your breath while pushing you create extreme pressure that can go to your head and cause an embolism the valsalva effect basically senses this pressure and closes the valves in your arteries going up to your brain so that you do not rupture a blood vessel in your brain. Once this happens you black out, it is the exact same principle in being choked out. They are not really being suffocated to the point of passing out it is the pressure created from blocking those arteries that causes it.

    Doing a great job in here so far. Also I think most people tend to drink there doses all at one time which would explain why you feel a lot more of the focus than the energy. If you wouldn't mind trying it once I would love to hear your impressions if you finish the Stimul8 prior to working out then maybe sip on some BCAA or just water during. If not that is cool, I am just curious.

    thanks, i appreciate it, its just that i have never experienced that before...... weird, we will see how i feel tomorrow with DLs. I will drink more of it right away tomorrow and see how i feel and then jsust sip on a little for the rest of the workout.......... today i took a big chug right before going out to do sprints, but ended up not doing sprints, my legs were like seizing up on me from the leg workout, so i made a shake and went to the store, had CRAZY energy in the store lol


  2. Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Damn Kleen if I ever get on a game show - you will be my dial a friend for the answer. I always learn something at AM.
    for sure, kleen is the man!
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  3. Chest/Tris/Abs - worked out with my cousin who i rarely see so it was cool, gonna try to make it an every sunday thing....took advantae of the spotter for sure!

    DB incline
    65x8
    65x8
    65x8
    70x7+1
    70x6+2
    40x15
    40x15

    weighted dips ( no dip belt, chain around the neck- hardcore stuff)
    x12
    x12
    x12
    x10 drop as many
    x11 drop - as many

    flat db press
    55- 4 sets 10-12

    decline db press

    60 - 4 sets 10-12

    incline cable fly crossing over at the top ss hammer strength incline - 3 sets 10-15

    db pullover 3

    55 3 sets 12-15

    decline skull crusher
    4 sets 10-12 forced on last 2 sets, drop on last set

    db overhead ext
    70lb 4 sets 8-10 forced on last 2 sets drop on last set

    reverse grip skull crusher
    3 sets 10-15 drop on last set

    rope pressdown - 3 sets 10-15

    leg raises 4 sets of 15

    a superset of leg raises hip thrusts and windshield wipers on a bench - 4 sets.


    started lacking intensity halfway through but picked it back up towards the end......if im feeelin fresh, going for a pr in DL tomorrow

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    for sure, kleen is the man!
    ahh yes - and a good catch, as I guess I missed the part where you were holding your breath!
    hell yes that makes sense - been there, done that myself in the past, and experienced that same thing

  5. yea,but only till i get pastthe sticking point
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  6. felt super run down today, went to the gym to do more of a deload workout, lighter weights, not to failure perfect form.............well.....my buddy wanted to work out so we started and i just got into it and it ended up being a decent session. def no DLs today though, hammies are still super sore form legs 2 days ago

    no time to post workout today , sorry


    btw....took a big couple chugs of stimul8 which kept me going strong for 3/4 of the workout then took another swig and was good to go, one heaping scoop is by far enough, no dizzyness problems or anything today during the workout.

  7. last 2 workouts ive been chuing a bunch of the stmul8 right before teh workout and leaving it in the locker room, this keeps me from sipping on it just because and im realizing most days i dont even need a full scoop thats pretty cool. unfortunately that light headed feeling came back today, i really dont know what is causing it but its whenever i take a deep breath even ifi onlyhold my breath for a short time i get etremely light headed and like a head rush......its almost liek my heart isnt pumping right or something i dunno, never hadthis issue............. kinda scary, leg workout today killed my legs. The weights I used were not much more, however i wasreallyfeeling it today,which is not a bad thing.......


    leg ext 2 warm up 4 set 10-15 strict form, drop on last 2 sets - pre exhaust

    front squat- form o nthese was spot on and have been trying to stay away from using my belt, really was feeling these for a change, felt good
    165x8x3
    175x8
    185x7
    135x as many x 2

    back squat
    195x8
    205x8
    215x8
    215x8

    leg press
    6 plates 8-12 x 5
    4 plates 20-30 x 2 - i decided to stay away from drop sets but instead i added an extra heavy set and did a couple back off set

    hack squat

    4 sets 10-12
    2 sets 15-20

    walking lunge - 4 sets 24 steps

    glute bridge - used lighter weight but felt them way more, i think i was getting my body higher

    275x10x4 - 5-10 second hold on last rep each set

    glute ham raise - 5 sets of 10 - these are AWESOME!

    seated leg curl - 3 sets 8-10 2 sets 12-15

    1 leg lying curl - 3 sets 10-12

    high and wide leg pres for hamstring emphasis - 3 sets 15-20

  8. Drink it all at once all ready! Lol. Good session
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  9. ^^ and stop taking deep breaths and holding it

  10. You could be breathing faster / more shallow due to the stims so the brain has less oxygen and when the valves close you are already lower on oxygen so less time in the valsalva effect brings the darkness more quickly. That or your BP may be going higher already and the valves close ealier due to the already increased pressure.

    Getting through the sticking point is when that pressure is going to be the highest. So exhaling after is not going to help. Something that may help you is to growl your way through the sticking point. You are releasing some of the pressure while still retaining the internal / guttural pressure because you need back pressure in the vocal cords to produce a growl. Plus it may make you feel animalistic. I tend to do it on accident when I am really in the zone but I have noticed it releases the pressure and keeps me from yelling out when at maximum effort level in a rep.

    Hell for that matter I realize I am growling sometimes as I pace back and forth between a set getting into the zone. My wife pointed it out to me before I even noticed it. LOL I have no idea how long I have done it since I keep my headphones up loud during training.
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  11. What are you taking other than stimul8? Anything hormonal?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    You could be breathing faster / more shallow due to the stims so the brain has less oxygen and when the valves close you are already lower on oxygen so less time in the valsalva effect brings the darkness more quickly. That or your BP may be going higher already and the valves close ealier due to the already increased pressure.

    Getting through the sticking point is when that pressure is going to be the highest. So exhaling after is not going to help. Something that may help you is to growl your way through the sticking point. You are releasing some of the pressure while still retaining the internal / guttural pressure because you need back pressure in the vocal cords to produce a growl. Plus it may make you feel animalistic. I tend to do it on accident when I am really in the zone but I have noticed it releases the pressure and keeps me from yelling out when at maximum effort level in a rep.

    Hell for that matter I realize I am growling sometimes as I pace back and forth between a set getting into the zone. My wife pointed it out to me before I even noticed it. LOL I have no idea how long I have done it since I keep my headphones up loud during training.
    Yea I tend to growl ss well....so much stronger when u make noise

  13. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    What are you taking other than stimul8? Anything hormonal?
    I'm on trt at 100mg test cyp a week....although I just stopped a blast of 400 a week

  14. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post

    I'm on trt at 100mg test cyp a week....although I just stopped a blast of 400 a week
    How long was your blast, when did you stop, and have you run bloods? First thing that came to mind after reading this was hematocrit. Thicker than normal blood will have a more difficult time carrying oxygen to where it's needed.

  15. Blast was about 9 weeks...just stopped this week....ya know the last week I was using test I got from a certain site, not my script cuz my script is gone.....that could be it

  16. no issues today regarding dizzyness......was only chest/tris, started of pretty good (worked out with a buddy) then after a few exercies got in a conversation with a younger kid i was watching squat the other day and talked to him about proper ways to get bigger, (TUT, short rest periods, full ROM, checking ur ego at the door, feeling the muscle work etc) so I was talking for a while which is totally unlike me but i love to help people out and he seems to be getting into lifting. After that it took me a while to get back into it, so the workout suffered a bit.

    Barbell bench - been a while since i did these.....DB presses have gone up but this has not
    175x8
    175x8
    175x8
    185x6+2
    185x5+3
    135x as many
    135x as many

    incline db press - very slow negatives, pause at full stretch
    60x8
    60x8
    60x8
    60x8+2
    60x8+2

    weighted dips
    35x6
    25x10
    25x10
    25x10
    bw x as many
    bw x as many

    incline db fly ss hammer strength incline press
    3 sets 10-15 drop on last set of hammer strength

    hex press - 40 lbs 3 sets 10-12

    high cable fly 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

    seated e-z bar overhead ext.
    60x10
    60x8
    60x8
    60x8
    40x15
    40x13 ss diamond pushups to failure - def gets the pump goin!

    v bar pushdown - 4 sets 10-12 drop on last set

    Rev grip skull crusher with pullover (makes it much harder) - 4 sets 10-12 + presses

    one arm neutral grip skull crusher - 3 sets 8-12 forced on last set

    ABS

    decline bench rev crunch ss hip raise ( when u raise ur legs str8 up - 15 reps each - 5 sets

    ab coaster obliques - i don do these liek most people i use littl weight and actually squeeze the top of the motion so i get good contractions

    4 sets of 25 each side

  17. bw since it was chest tris ( smaller muscles) i gave a str8 chug a go....did about 3/4 scoop maybe a little less and it was plenty to get me through the workout, felt great.....the break of talking stunk but w/e helped someone out

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post

    I'm on trt at 100mg test cyp a week....although I just stopped a blast of 400 a week
    Seems everybody is on trt....shame it's not done here

    not that I need it right now, I think....but in a couple of years it would be nice.
    OLYMPUS UK REP

  19. Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    Seems everybody is on trt....
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
    forgive my rant, I am done

  20. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
    forgive my rant, I am done
    Makes sence...and kretz 23?...I get your point....maybe we're not so crazy over here
    OLYMPUS UK REP

  21. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
    forgive my rant, I am done
    It does suck...we tried a restart a few times....although I'm having a surgery in sept and am thinkong of trying my own restart with more than just clomid...what do u think? What would u r ecommend for it

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    It does suck...we tried a restart a few times....although I'm having a surgery in sept and am thinkong of trying my own restart with more than just clomid...what do u think? What would u r ecommend for it
    I can not (and will not) advise you on such course of action friend, sorry
    just not something I wish to be involved in; nor am I the expert in such matters - tho there are a couple knowledgeable guys you can find around the boards who do have no problem discussing such things, and have more insight than I would
    whatever you choose to do - best to you in that regard

  23. Find a GOOD hormone specialist. Safest and best thing to do.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
    forgive my rant, I am done
    Definitely not a rant. If anything that was a great reality check.
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  25. quick note on yesterdays workouts....back/bis, SOOO focused it was rediculous and btw i tried taking just 3/4 scoop and it was amazing! such good contractions, feeling it today for sure.......

    todays workout was jsut cardio and a little bit of abs, no stimul8 today

    decline oblique crunches 4 sets 10-15

    weighted decline crunch 3 sets of 12 drop on last set

    rope crunch 4 sets of 25

    lying side to side leg raises while holding 135 lb barbell

  26. will be killin chest/tris with a bodybuilder friend tomorrow so should be intense to finally train with someone that trains with some intensity, cant wait!!! look forward to a stimul8ed workout and post tomorrow!

  27. great focused, intense workout with my buddy today, a little shorter than my typical workout, but felt good for sure, had a really nice pump going even with low carbs yesterday. Did a couple things in different order than normal which is a nice switch up.

    incline db press
    70x8
    70x8
    75x6+2 - pr - felt nice usin the 75s!
    75x5+3
    50x15 - my buddy commented on how i go real low and keep constant tension on all my reps....glad someone gives credit to proper form! Ive also been really focusing on pausing in the stretch position, feels good (hurts lol) and think teh whole fascia stretching idea sounds decent in regards to muscle growth.

    heavy flat DB flys - been years since ive done heavy flys, this was def. a nice switch up
    45x10
    45x12
    45x12
    45x10+2
    35x20!

    decline db press
    65s - pr usually use 60 4 sets 8-12 - drop to 50lb x 5 on last set

    dips - 4 sets to failure with great ROW slow negatives and good contractions at the top with minimal rest.....sick pump

    flat db twist press - twist form neutral to regular position, gives a great contraction and finisher- 3 sets of 10

    1 arm rev grip cable ext straight on to the station supersetted with facing to the side of the station to hit the tri from a different angle. ( i like this way a lot cuz u can brace ur elbow on your body so your form stays perfect. - 4 sets 10-15

    neutral grip db skull crusher, 3 sets 10-12 forced reps on last 2 sets

    rope pressdown 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set











    still ot a few servings of stimul8 left which is awsome, today was teh first day i noticed an increased pump, not sure why, but i am not complaining. Also want to note that there is no crash ever off of this,if anything it lasts for a longtime, always feel alert after taking this.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    great focused, intense workout with my buddy today, a little shorter than my typical workout, but felt good for sure, had a really nice pump going even with low carbs yesterday. Did a couple things in different order than normal which is a nice switch up.

    incline db press
    70x8
    70x8
    75x6+2 - pr - felt nice usin the 75s!
    75x5+3
    50x15 - my buddy commented on how i go real low and keep constant tension on all my reps....glad someone gives credit to proper form! Ive also been really focusing on pausing in the stretch position, feels good (hurts lol) and think teh whole fascia stretching idea sounds decent in regards to muscle growth.

    heavy flat DB flys - been years since ive done heavy flys, this was def. a nice switch up
    45x10
    45x12
    45x12
    45x10+2
    35x20!

    decline db press
    65s - pr usually use 60 4 sets 8-12 - drop to 50lb x 5 on last set

    dips - 4 sets to failure with great ROW slow negatives and good contractions at the top with minimal rest.....sick pump

    flat db twist press - twist form neutral to regular position, gives a great contraction and finisher- 3 sets of 10

    1 arm rev grip cable ext straight on to the station supersetted with facing to the side of the station to hit the tri from a different angle. ( i like this way a lot cuz u can brace ur elbow on your body so your form stays perfect. - 4 sets 10-15

    neutral grip db skull crusher, 3 sets 10-12 forced reps on last 2 sets

    rope pressdown 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

    still ot a few servings of stimul8 left which is awsome, today was teh first day i noticed an increased pump, not sure why, but i am not complaining. Also want to note that there is no crash ever off of this,if anything it lasts for a longtime, always feel alert after taking this.
    I see stimul8 keeps delivering

    Sounds like you're having a blast!!!
    OLYMPUS UK REP

  29. Looking solid! The try flexing and stretching between sets if you are trying to stretch facsia. Gets three blood rushing into the muscle even more.
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  30. ^^ this
    power stretching/hard flexing of muscles being worked between sets has long been a "secret" approach to squeezing more growth out of the muscle tissue
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