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    What are you taking other than stimul8? Anything hormonal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    You could be breathing faster / more shallow due to the stims so the brain has less oxygen and when the valves close you are already lower on oxygen so less time in the valsalva effect brings the darkness more quickly. That or your BP may be going higher already and the valves close ealier due to the already increased pressure.

    Getting through the sticking point is when that pressure is going to be the highest. So exhaling after is not going to help. Something that may help you is to growl your way through the sticking point. You are releasing some of the pressure while still retaining the internal / guttural pressure because you need back pressure in the vocal cords to produce a growl. Plus it may make you feel animalistic. I tend to do it on accident when I am really in the zone but I have noticed it releases the pressure and keeps me from yelling out when at maximum effort level in a rep.

    Hell for that matter I realize I am growling sometimes as I pace back and forth between a set getting into the zone. My wife pointed it out to me before I even noticed it. LOL I have no idea how long I have done it since I keep my headphones up loud during training.
    Yea I tend to growl ss well....so much stronger when u make noise
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    What are you taking other than stimul8? Anything hormonal?
    I'm on trt at 100mg test cyp a week....although I just stopped a blast of 400 a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post

    I'm on trt at 100mg test cyp a week....although I just stopped a blast of 400 a week
    How long was your blast, when did you stop, and have you run bloods? First thing that came to mind after reading this was hematocrit. Thicker than normal blood will have a more difficult time carrying oxygen to where it's needed.
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    Blast was about 9 weeks...just stopped this week....ya know the last week I was using test I got from a certain site, not my script cuz my script is gone.....that could be it
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    no issues today regarding dizzyness......was only chest/tris, started of pretty good (worked out with a buddy) then after a few exercies got in a conversation with a younger kid i was watching squat the other day and talked to him about proper ways to get bigger, (TUT, short rest periods, full ROM, checking ur ego at the door, feeling the muscle work etc) so I was talking for a while which is totally unlike me but i love to help people out and he seems to be getting into lifting. After that it took me a while to get back into it, so the workout suffered a bit.

    Barbell bench - been a while since i did these.....DB presses have gone up but this has not
    175x8
    175x8
    175x8
    185x6+2
    185x5+3
    135x as many
    135x as many

    incline db press - very slow negatives, pause at full stretch
    60x8
    60x8
    60x8
    60x8+2
    60x8+2

    weighted dips
    35x6
    25x10
    25x10
    25x10
    bw x as many
    bw x as many

    incline db fly ss hammer strength incline press
    3 sets 10-15 drop on last set of hammer strength

    hex press - 40 lbs 3 sets 10-12

    high cable fly 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

    seated e-z bar overhead ext.
    60x10
    60x8
    60x8
    60x8
    40x15
    40x13 ss diamond pushups to failure - def gets the pump goin!

    v bar pushdown - 4 sets 10-12 drop on last set

    Rev grip skull crusher with pullover (makes it much harder) - 4 sets 10-12 + presses

    one arm neutral grip skull crusher - 3 sets 8-12 forced on last set

    ABS

    decline bench rev crunch ss hip raise ( when u raise ur legs str8 up - 15 reps each - 5 sets

    ab coaster obliques - i don do these liek most people i use littl weight and actually squeeze the top of the motion so i get good contractions

    4 sets of 25 each side
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    bw since it was chest tris ( smaller muscles) i gave a str8 chug a go....did about 3/4 scoop maybe a little less and it was plenty to get me through the workout, felt great.....the break of talking stunk but w/e helped someone out
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post

    I'm on trt at 100mg test cyp a week....although I just stopped a blast of 400 a week
    Seems everybody is on trt....shame it's not done here

    not that I need it right now, I think....but in a couple of years it would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    Seems everybody is on trt....
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
    forgive my rant, I am done
    Makes sence...and kretz 23?...I get your point....maybe we're not so crazy over here
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
    forgive my rant, I am done
    It does suck...we tried a restart a few times....although I'm having a surgery in sept and am thinkong of trying my own restart with more than just clomid...what do u think? What would u r ecommend for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    It does suck...we tried a restart a few times....although I'm having a surgery in sept and am thinkong of trying my own restart with more than just clomid...what do u think? What would u r ecommend for it
    I can not (and will not) advise you on such course of action friend, sorry
    just not something I wish to be involved in; nor am I the expert in such matters - tho there are a couple knowledgeable guys you can find around the boards who do have no problem discussing such things, and have more insight than I would
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    Find a GOOD hormone specialist. Safest and best thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    meh - I'm not..personally, I am not a fan, definitely mixed feelings on this
    America's embracement of this "boosting T" thing is really getting off the chain, with MANY ppl who really do not need this, being prescribed TRT from borderline quack doctors who are happy to write you a script as long as you (or your insurance) is paying them well..(mkretz is 23 yers old! I mean, c'mon man)

    and the ones who cannot get a script, are self-medicating..
    I personally think there is a lot of ignorance in this whole area

    the culture here is funny: everything has to be bigger, better, stronger..
    we have to have the latest greatest technological release - even tho what we currently have and are using is just fine..
    and it spirals to having to work more and make more $, just to keep up with supporting the extravagances of our lifestyle, so you work more, causing stress and a host of other issues in an already grossly overindulged society

    the mouse keeps spinning in his wheel round & round..americans are spoiled

    ridiculous..
    forgive my rant, I am done
    Definitely not a rant. If anything that was a great reality check.
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    quick note on yesterdays workouts....back/bis, SOOO focused it was rediculous and btw i tried taking just 3/4 scoop and it was amazing! such good contractions, feeling it today for sure.......

    todays workout was jsut cardio and a little bit of abs, no stimul8 today

    decline oblique crunches 4 sets 10-15

    weighted decline crunch 3 sets of 12 drop on last set

    rope crunch 4 sets of 25

    lying side to side leg raises while holding 135 lb barbell
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    will be killin chest/tris with a bodybuilder friend tomorrow so should be intense to finally train with someone that trains with some intensity, cant wait!!! look forward to a stimul8ed workout and post tomorrow!
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    great focused, intense workout with my buddy today, a little shorter than my typical workout, but felt good for sure, had a really nice pump going even with low carbs yesterday. Did a couple things in different order than normal which is a nice switch up.

    incline db press
    70x8
    70x8
    75x6+2 - pr - felt nice usin the 75s!
    75x5+3
    50x15 - my buddy commented on how i go real low and keep constant tension on all my reps....glad someone gives credit to proper form! Ive also been really focusing on pausing in the stretch position, feels good (hurts lol) and think teh whole fascia stretching idea sounds decent in regards to muscle growth.

    heavy flat DB flys - been years since ive done heavy flys, this was def. a nice switch up
    45x10
    45x12
    45x12
    45x10+2
    35x20!

    decline db press
    65s - pr usually use 60 4 sets 8-12 - drop to 50lb x 5 on last set

    dips - 4 sets to failure with great ROW slow negatives and good contractions at the top with minimal rest.....sick pump

    flat db twist press - twist form neutral to regular position, gives a great contraction and finisher- 3 sets of 10

    1 arm rev grip cable ext straight on to the station supersetted with facing to the side of the station to hit the tri from a different angle. ( i like this way a lot cuz u can brace ur elbow on your body so your form stays perfect. - 4 sets 10-15

    neutral grip db skull crusher, 3 sets 10-12 forced reps on last 2 sets

    rope pressdown 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set











    still ot a few servings of stimul8 left which is awsome, today was teh first day i noticed an increased pump, not sure why, but i am not complaining. Also want to note that there is no crash ever off of this,if anything it lasts for a longtime, always feel alert after taking this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    great focused, intense workout with my buddy today, a little shorter than my typical workout, but felt good for sure, had a really nice pump going even with low carbs yesterday. Did a couple things in different order than normal which is a nice switch up.

    incline db press
    70x8
    70x8
    75x6+2 - pr - felt nice usin the 75s!
    75x5+3
    50x15 - my buddy commented on how i go real low and keep constant tension on all my reps....glad someone gives credit to proper form! Ive also been really focusing on pausing in the stretch position, feels good (hurts lol) and think teh whole fascia stretching idea sounds decent in regards to muscle growth.

    heavy flat DB flys - been years since ive done heavy flys, this was def. a nice switch up
    45x10
    45x12
    45x12
    45x10+2
    35x20!

    decline db press
    65s - pr usually use 60 4 sets 8-12 - drop to 50lb x 5 on last set

    dips - 4 sets to failure with great ROW slow negatives and good contractions at the top with minimal rest.....sick pump

    flat db twist press - twist form neutral to regular position, gives a great contraction and finisher- 3 sets of 10

    1 arm rev grip cable ext straight on to the station supersetted with facing to the side of the station to hit the tri from a different angle. ( i like this way a lot cuz u can brace ur elbow on your body so your form stays perfect. - 4 sets 10-15

    neutral grip db skull crusher, 3 sets 10-12 forced reps on last 2 sets

    rope pressdown 4 sets 10-15 drop on last set

    still ot a few servings of stimul8 left which is awsome, today was teh first day i noticed an increased pump, not sure why, but i am not complaining. Also want to note that there is no crash ever off of this,if anything it lasts for a longtime, always feel alert after taking this.
    I see stimul8 keeps delivering

    Sounds like you're having a blast!!!
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    Looking solid! The try flexing and stretching between sets if you are trying to stretch facsia. Gets three blood rushing into the muscle even more.

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    ^^ this
    power stretching/hard flexing of muscles being worked between sets has long been a "secret" approach to squeezing more growth out of the muscle tissue
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    ^^ this
    power stretching/hard flexing of muscles being worked between sets has long been a "secret" approach to squeezing more growth out of the muscle tissue
    I do this a lot. People often look at me funny but hey, the pump is unreal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I do this a lot. People often look at me funny but hey, the pump is unreal.
    absolutely
    I was dying today, pushing myself to limit on all things and flexing the chest/delts between sets

    but afterward - feelsgoodman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Looking solid! The try flexing and stretching between sets if you are trying to stretch facsia. Gets three blood rushing into the muscle even more.
    Yea...I used to do that in a fst 7 style...loved it, don't know why I got away from it...thanks for the reminder!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post

    I do this a lot. People often look at me funny but hey, the pump is unreal.
    Especially on leg ext......hurts so good!! Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post

    Especially on leg ext......hurts so good!! Haha
    always fun to do some posedowns with the boys....not all the owners like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    always fun to do some posedowns with the boys....not all the owners like that
    yeah go try that in Planet Fitness
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yeah go try that in Planet Fitness
    let's do it..... just for fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    let's do it..... just for fun
    LOL
    had a client who worked out there, and I train my ppl wherever they go..
    soon as I walked thru the door, I started getting nasty looks from the staff there
    they don't want bb'ers at that place -- aerobics, FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    LOL they don't want bb'ers at that place -- aerobics, FTW!
    Only thing that is good for is.. hot a$$es in yoga pants!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    LOL
    had a client who worked out there, and I train my ppl wherever they go..
    soon as I walked thru the door, I started getting nasty looks from the staff there
    they don't want bb'ers at that place -- aerobics, FTW!
    Problem is, most owners here in holland associate bb with the old school look from the eighties...and steroids...

    complete bs ofcourse......staff people are just jealous....jealousy is so childish
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    Does any of the older guys here remember the old Spyder Stretch workout system? Way before DC, or FST-7 was Spyder you would do your work sets then immediately go into a weighted stretch on the muscle. I am pretty sure it was called Spyder and was an acronym for something. Anyway I used that for a bit and man it was beast mode!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Does any of the older guys here remember the old Spyder Stretch workout system? Way before DC, or FST-7 was Spyder you would do your work sets then immediately go into a weighted stretch on the muscle. I am pretty sure it was called Spyder and was an acronym for something. Anyway I used that for a bit and man it was beast mode!
    [still waiting for older guys to chime in here..not seeing any]

    anyway, no I do not remember it chris..prolly was in the time I refused to look at the abundant and numerous "programs" out there, as this seems to be the time period that segment exploded with everyone trying to push their own thing..
    of course, I dint think it could get any worse; and then, there is now

    meh, whatever works for you..but yes - deep fascia stretching is nothing new, in fact I would say it originates in the 60s at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Does any of the older guys here remember the old Spyder Stretch workout system? Way before DC, or FST-7 was Spyder you would do your work sets then immediately go into a weighted stretch on the muscle. I am pretty sure it was called Spider and was an acronym for something. Anyway I used that for a bit and man it was beast mode!
    Okay I had to go look it up... this is from an article at T-Nation, Now finding the actual program a little different but this thing was pretty cool when I did it.

    "Now, if you could score the Nov. ’97 issue of Muscle Media, our very own TC writes about another form of stretching called "SPIDER" which stands for Stretching with Pre-Induced Defense by Eccentric Repetitions. This concept was developed by Torbjorn Akerfeldt who felt that remodeling connective tissue surrounding muscle cells (thought of as bags or girdles that restrict muscle growth) will give them extra space to grow.

    However, much like Parrillo, Akerfeldt contends that the conditions must be right for this to occur: a) the pump contributes to muscle growth due to compartmental stretching induced by muscles filled with blood, and b) overfeeding increases IGF-1, Testosterone and insulin. Keep in mind that stretching can increase IGF-1 release 12 fold. IGF-1 mediated activation of satellite cells peaks after 3 to 7 days of stretching so perform SPIDER stretching sparingly, maybe one week out of every month. "
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    now why am I not surprised at the source, and that they infer it was a "new" thing that had just been "discovered"
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    great leg session today!

    started off with preexhausting myquads with 4 sets 15-20 drop on last 2 sets

    then frontsquats - felt super light headed again so didnt go super heavy, but as i continued to warm up i felt fine, so maybe i jsut gotta warm up better

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    135x as many
    135x as many

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    got one scoop about left, and that will be used tomorrow,then its time for the final review...this has been a great run, thanks again to finaflex!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    got one scoop about left, and that will be used tomorrow,then its time for the final review...this has been a great run, thanks again to finaflex!
    Looking forward to it!
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    im not sure what happened but i opened mytub today and its liek water got in it somehow, all the powder was crusted up so i basically ate like 1/2 a scoop (prety damn strong lol) and just shook t rest with water,not wasting it haha worked pretty well.

    I was super determined going into the gym so the fact that the workout was intense was not a suprise but jus how intense was crazy, no doubt stimul8 fueled this intensity, best workout on stimul8 no doubt just for the sheer lack of rest throughout, insane focus, and was dripping in sweat

    standing military press - weaker on these for some reason
    95x6-8x5 double drop on last set
    65x as many x 2

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    160x8
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    160x7drop 110 drop 90

    lateral raise - not the best form but controlling the negative as much as possible
    27.5x8x4 drop on last set 17.5 x as many, 10 x as many
    15x15

    supersetted with

    incline cable fly with crossover at the top - 4 sets 10-12

    db shoulder press 4 sets 10-12

    flat db bench 4 set 10-12

    decline hammer strength 4 sets 10-12 drop on last set.

    bodyweight dips 4 sets x as many

    supersetted with hanging leg raises - 5 sets

    cable lateral raise 4 sets ( 2 in front 2 behind) - no rest between arms

    face pull 5 sets 10-15
    supersetted with

    seated bent over lateral raise - 5 sets 15 with 15lb

    vbar pushdown 4 sets of 8 with double drop on last set

    supersetted with

    dragon flag negatives on flat bench x 6 4 sets

    standing rev grip over head ext. 4 sets 10-15

    dip machine - 4 sets of 10 drop on last set

    got all that done in 1.5 hours - i was moving!!!! felt amazing
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    this experience on last 1-2 scoops seems to be a recurring thing..hmm
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