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  1. BioCor's Stack, Put to the Test


    After what seemed liked an eternity (it was actually a week), I'm finally starting my log of BioCor's Agmatine, Creatine, DivaMax and Citrulline Malate. A big thanks goes out to BioCor for allowing me the opportunity to log this awesome stack! This is my first time using BioCor supplements and I'm looking forward to trying them out.

    As for me, I won't bore everyone with a long history as most are not really interested in that. However, I will say that I'm 38, I have been lifting since I was about 15-16 years old and I tend to use workout routines that most others are not doing. I guess you could say that I don't like following the crowd. Right now, I am in the beginning stages of changing the way I've almost always worked out. I have abandoned the common routine of working one or two muscles groups per workout/per week in favor of a traditional powerlifting routine, using compound exercises with the main goal of getting stronger. I have never followed a PL routine before and most would say that it is a bit late in the game to start, but that just motivates me to do it that much more. For the next 12 weeks or so, I will be following the routine made famous by Bill Starr, and later Glenn Pendlay, the 5 x 5 routine. In the next couple of posts, I will describe the 5 x 5 routine and philosophy as well as my personal goals. For now, I just wanted to get this log up and running and of course express my gratitude to BioCor for this opportunity


  2. Lets get it going!!! @thebigt @R1balla @EasyEJL
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  3. rdcopps...how do you plan on dosing?

    if you need help of any kind just ask!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  4. BioCor - I'm glad I'm back and am ready to catch up with everyone else!

  5. @thebigt -Tell me how this soundsivamax: everyday, one cap with each meal.Agmatine: everyday, one with breakfast and one with dinner (taken with Divamax)Citrulline: workout days about 30 minutes before workouts. most likely will go with 2 scoops. will adjust timing based on how and when I feel it during the workout.Creatine: somewhat undecided. definitely after workouts (5 grams) with my protein shakes. Haven't decided about non-workout days.What are your thoughts?
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  6. im following along!

  7. ​thebigt -Tell me how this sounds
    Divamax: everyday, one cap with each meal.
    Agmatine: everyday, one with breakfast and one with dinner (taken with Divamax)
    Citrulline: workout days about 30 minutes before workouts. most likely will go with 2 scoops. will adjust timing based on how and when I feel it during the workout.
    Creatine: somewhat undecided. definitely after workouts (5 grams) with my protein shakes. Haven't decided about non-workout days.

    What are your thoughts?

    Thanks for the follow!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rdcopps View Post
    @thebigt -Tell me how this soundsivamax: everyday, one cap with each meal.Agmatine: everyday, one with breakfast and one with dinner (taken with Divamax)Citrulline: workout days about 30 minutes before workouts. most likely will go with 2 scoops. will adjust timing based on how and when I feel it during the workout.Creatine: somewhat undecided. definitely after workouts (5 grams) with my protein shakes. Haven't decided about non-workout days.What are your thoughts?
    if it were me i would put creatine/citrulline/agmatine together with chrystal lite or some other flavoring and drink pre-workout...i also like to take a serving of agmatine and divamax before bed.

    this is just me...the plan you laid out should also be just fine to give some great results!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  9. Thanks for the input. I'll have to play around with it and see how my body responds best.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Rdcopps View Post
    Thanks for the input. I'll have to play around with it and see how my body responds best.
    my pleasure to offer suggestions, but ultimately you need to find what best suits your needs!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rdcopps View Post
    ​thebigt -Tell me how this sounds
    Divamax: everyday, one cap with each meal.
    Agmatine: everyday, one with breakfast and one with dinner (taken with Divamax)
    Citrulline: workout days about 30 minutes before workouts. most likely will go with 2 scoops. will adjust timing based on how and when I feel it during the workout.
    Creatine: somewhat undecided. definitely after workouts (5 grams) with my protein shakes. Haven't decided about non-workout days.

    What are your thoughts?

    Thanks for the follow!
    i take divamax 3x/ day, each dose with a meal

    citmal, agmatine, creatine i take all at once 30 min pre workout.

    as far as creatine timing, it does not matter when you take it. its all about saturation. you can take it when u wake up, after workout, pre workout, bed time, whenever.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    if it were me i would put creatine/citrulline/agmatine together with chrystal lite or some other flavoring and drink pre-workout...i also like to take a serving of agmatine and divamax before bed.

    this is just me...the plan you laid out should also be just fine to give some great results!!!
    hmm. never used agmatine at night. why do you do this? just curious

  13. So yesterday, I hit the gym to get back into the swing of things. I hadn't been in the gym consistently for about 2 weeks due to work and then vacation. I plan on starting Monday on my new 5 x 5 routine, so I used yesterday as a moderate day to get my body primed for some heavier lifting come Monday.

    I should also let everyone know that I train alone. It's been at least 6 years since I worked out with a partner. Personally, I've found it hard to find someone who has the same goals as myself and is willing to follow my training routines. Everyone always wants to do things their way, which usually isn't mine! Can't say that I blame them.

    With that being said, I am no where near as strong as I think I should be. This is a big reason that I will be going to the 5 x 5 routine. The lifts in this routine will be squats, bench presses, dead lifts, rows, military presses and chins. The only modification I will make is to substitute bench presses for DB presses (I also don't like anyone spotting me).

    With 5 x 5, I plan on working out Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I will start every workout with squats and will be followed by either DB presses and Rows or Dead Lifts and MP/Chins. Some sets are straight sets of 5, all with the same weight and others are ramped up sets finishing the last set with my max weight at 5 reps. I will go into more detail later.

    As far as my workout yesterday, this is how it went:

    Squats

    Warmup - 135 x 8, 185 x 5
    Set 1 - 205 x 5
    Set 2 - 225 x 5
    Set 3 - 245 x 5
    Set 4 - 260 x 5

    I also want to point out that I go well below parallel on squats. I don't quite get down to my ankles, but I'm not far off either. Since going to this type of squat, as opposed to parallel or almost parallel, I have found that I no longer have knee issues and my lower back does not hurt.

    DB Presses

    Warmup - 135 x 8 (Used a BB), 135 x 6
    Set 1 - 75 x 5
    Set 2 - 85 x 5
    Set 3 - 95 x 5
    Set 4 - 100 x 5

    Pendlay Rows

    Warmup - 95 x 8
    Set 1 - 105 x 5
    Set 2 - 135 x 5
    Set 3 - 155 x 5
    Set 4 - 175 x 5

    Pleased with the workout. I cut out the 5th set on all exercises. I didn't want to be too gung-ho my first day back in the gym. I have a spreadsheet that I will use that will lay out all the weights I will be using for the next 12 weeks.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    hmm. never used agmatine at night. why do you do this? just curious
    i feel it increases my recovery...dinoii recommended a bed time dose back when blue print 1st came out. been dosing agmatine that way ever since.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Rdcopps View Post
    So yesterday, I hit the gym to get back into the swing of things. I hadn't been in the gym consistently for about 2 weeks due to work and then vacation. I plan on starting Monday on my new 5 x 5 routine, so I used yesterday as a moderate day to get my body primed for some heavier lifting come Monday.

    I should also let everyone know that I train alone. It's been at least 6 years since I worked out with a partner. Personally, I've found it hard to find someone who has the same goals as myself and is willing to follow my training routines. Everyone always wants to do things their way, which usually isn't mine! Can't say that I blame them.

    With that being said, I am no where near as strong as I think I should be. This is a big reason that I will be going to the 5 x 5 routine. The lifts in this routine will be squats, bench presses, dead lifts, rows, military presses and chins. The only modification I will make is to substitute bench presses for DB presses (I also don't like anyone spotting me).

    With 5 x 5, I plan on working out Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I will start every workout with squats and will be followed by either DB presses and Rows or Dead Lifts and MP/Chins. Some sets are straight sets of 5, all with the same weight and others are ramped up sets finishing the last set with my max weight at 5 reps. I will go into more detail later.

    As far as my workout yesterday, this is how it went:

    Squats

    Warmup - 135 x 8, 185 x 5
    Set 1 - 205 x 5
    Set 2 - 225 x 5
    Set 3 - 245 x 5
    Set 4 - 260 x 5

    I also want to point out that I go well below parallel on squats. I don't quite get down to my ankles, but I'm not far off either. Since going to this type of squat, as opposed to parallel or almost parallel, I have found that I no longer have knee issues and my lower back does not hurt.

    DB Presses

    Warmup - 135 x 8 (Used a BB), 135 x 6
    Set 1 - 75 x 5
    Set 2 - 85 x 5
    Set 3 - 95 x 5
    Set 4 - 100 x 5

    Pendlay Rows

    Warmup - 95 x 8
    Set 1 - 105 x 5
    Set 2 - 135 x 5
    Set 3 - 155 x 5
    Set 4 - 175 x 5

    Pleased with the workout. I cut out the 5th set on all exercises. I didn't want to be too gung-ho my first day back in the gym. I have a spreadsheet that I will use that will lay out all the weights I will be using for the next 12 weeks.
    over the years squats have taken their toll on my knees, glad you have found a way to reduce knee issues!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  16. I guess I always blindly followed the myth that deep squats were bad for your knees. However, after reading about deep squats distributing the load and stress to your hips and off your knees, it made sense to me. I wish I would've known this years ago. I actually stopped squatting a long, long time ago because my knees would always ache the following day.
    BioCor's Stack, Put to the Test
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/231626-biocors-stack-put.html

  17. Just a quick check in. Feeling pretty good this morning after yesterday's workout. I can feel a little bit in my legs, but nothing that is making me walk funny! Can't wait to hit the gym in the morning and get my new routine going. Happy Father's Day to all the Dads out there!
    BioCor's Stack, Put to the Test
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rdcopps View Post
    Just a quick check in. Feeling pretty good this morning after yesterday's workout. I can feel a little bit in my legs, but nothing that is making me walk funny! Can't wait to hit the gym in the morning and get my new routine going. Happy Father's Day to all the Dads out there!
    yup...sounds like recovery is improved.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  19. I agree. I actually started to take Divamax a couple of days before returning from vacation to get it into my system before resuming training. We'll see if it worked.
    BioCor's Stack, Put to the Test
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/231626-biocors-stack-put.html

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Rdcopps View Post
    I agree. I actually started to take Divamax a couple of days before returning from vacation to get it into my system before resuming training. We'll see if it worked.
    outstanding....divanill is one of my favorite compounds, and i trust the quality of divamax to be top notch!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  21. some personal trainer told me leg presses are more effective than squats so just do that instead

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Rdcopps View Post
    I guess I always blindly followed the myth that deep squats were bad for your knees. However, after reading about deep squats distributing the load and stress to your hips and off your knees, it made sense to me. I wish I would've known this years ago. I actually stopped squatting a long, long time ago because my knees would always ache the following day.
    Oh man have you been misinformed. You should reading starting strength, it explains in detail how squatting to depth is perfectly safe and not hitting depth is actually what's bad. My wife has bad knees and I've got her squatting 2-3x a week, with no knee pain.

  23. @R1balla - Wait a minute, are you saying they're not
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by broken bottle View Post
    Oh man have you been misinformed. You should reading starting strength, it explains in detail how squatting to depth is perfectly safe and not hitting depth is actually what's bad. My wife has bad knees and I've got her squatting 2-3x a week, with no knee pain.
    Is that the one by Mark Rippetoe? I've read some of his stuff lately and that is where I educated about deep squats. Some pretty good stuff.
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  25. This morning I got up at 4:10 AM to get ready for the gym. I typically don't workout this early but my schedule at work is going to be messed up for the next several weeks, so I don't have much of an alternative. I took a trifecta of BioCor supps (Agmatine, Citrulline, and Creatine and headed for the gym. I got there at 4:30 and was surprised at how many people were there. There was some sort of bootcamp going on and they took up every bench, incline and portable bench in the gym! It was like they were all working out together but everyone had their own equipment. I thought it was going to be an issue, but by the time I got to DB Presses, a bench had opened up. Anyway, on to the workout.

    Brief stretching for my lower back and then jumped into squats.

    Squats

    Warmups

    135 x 8
    185 x 5
    205 x 4
    240 x 3

    Working Sets

    260 x 5 x 5

    Squats felt good. My warmup at 205 actually had me concerned because it felt rather heavy. As I moved up in weight, I got more in the groove and I was able to handle the working sets. The only problem I had was that I think I have some tendinitis in my left arm. It had bothered me before I went on vacation and was hurting fairly bad after my warmups. It feels like a dull ache that starts in my shoulder and travels down to my elbow. It actually feels similar to when I played baseball in college and my arm would end up aching near the end of the season. I took an Aleve when I got home and the pain went away. I'll have to remember to do that before my workouts from now on, followed up with some ice.


    DB Presses

    Warmup - 35 x 8
    Set 1 - 75 x 5
    Set 2 - 85 x 5
    Set 3 - 95 x 5
    Set 4 - 105 x 5
    Set 5 - 110 x 5


    Pendlay Rows

    Warmup - 95 x 8, 135 x 5
    Set 1 - 150 x 5
    Set 2 - 170 x 5
    Set 3 - 190 x 5
    Set 4 - 210 x 5
    Set 5 - 225 x 5

    I wasn't real pleased with the last 2 reps of my last set. I lifted my chest up a bit and didn't keep my hips locked. Other than that, I was pleased with the first real workout on the new routine. I felt fairly strong on all lifts and felt as if the weights were right where they needed to be. I kept a fairly quick pace for it being a power routine. I'm interested in seeing how my body responds tomorrow morning. One last thing, I took a Divamax and Agmatine before going to bed last night (at another members suggestion) and had a great nights sleep.
    BioCor's Stack, Put to the Test
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/231626-biocors-stack-put.html

  26. i am a big fan of dosing divanill and agmatine before bed!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  27. Yes rippetoe

  28. Quote Originally Posted by broken bottle View Post
    Yes rippetoe
    wasn't there a singer in the 70's named minnie rippertoe...
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  29. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    wasn't there a singer in the 70's named minnie rippertoe...
    You just confirmed yourself as old.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post

    wasn't there a singer in the 70's named minnie rippertoe...
    If there was, I would be embarrassed to admit I knew who she was
    BioCor's Stack, Put to the Test
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