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    Reborn: The Solution Test's Controlled Labs White Flood



    White Flood Reborn Juicy Watermelon



    Big Thanks to the CL Team for sending out a tub my way to try and review

    Taste

    I have tried quite a few “Watermelon” flavored products in my time, and I have to say CL did a good job and improvement of the past on their flavoring. This is not a Jolly Rancher Watermelon flavoring, but its not a “Tart” Watermelon if you know what I am saying. Its not overpowering but its good, refreshing more like it. It should be called “Refreshing Watermelon” IMO because its not strong (even as stated on the bottle 8oz per 1 scoop) you get that initial watermelon flavoring and then it fades fast on the aftertaste on the way down. The initial burst of flavoring is very good, like a ripe watermelon not overly sweet and well done. Controlled Labs has done good. Much better than the Beet Root!

    Mixability

    I shook this literally 3 times, not even 3 seconds, instantly dissolved. The coloring threw me off for a watermelon as it came clear, but overall that doesn’t meant a thing. The powder is very fine/thin as you can see on the scooper above and is dissolving upon touching the water. I have not had a problem with Purple Wraath, Green mag in the past so this did not surprise me.

    Formula



    Per 1 Scoop:

    225mg Caffeine

    EndoPump Complex:
    I dig the inclusion of BA, CM, and Norvaline. BA/CM will aid in recovery, performance, and endurance for training (unknown amount) and the bit of norvaline will be great for pumps during training as seen on the market in some other pre-workouts and GDA products.

    RebornNeuro Complex:
    I am unknown on the fruit and the other ingredients involved in this mix here, perhaps a rep could chime in regarding the benefits and why they included this into the formula. Regardless it will be interesting to see the inclusion of these and why CL did it. There is always a reasoning behind their methods.


    Workout Reaction

    Lets first comment on what is noticed during training and then how I dosed this

    Energy
    Around 200mg of caffeine is my sweet spot, I am not a person that needs tons of stims to get going, this is just enough to give me energy and sustain my focus for around 90 minutes (The durations of most of my workouts ((Especially legs)) anything Upperbody will be shorter) depending on my split and current mesocycle I am running. There were no jitters and it was very smooth from start to finish of my workout, which even trailed into my post-workout meal after I drove home and cooked.
    Pump
    Much more noticeable when I had food in me prior to training (I dosed this prior to fasted morning training) and the pumps are not as noticeable, the Norvaline may play a part in this when dosed around carbs and training later in the day/afternoon. Not to mention a bit of food will aid performance (for some) compared to those who thrive off fasted training. Most of my training sessions are upon waking (5-6 a.m.) or afternoon (12,1,2ish around there) once in a while like 5-6ish depending on my schedule and if I am teaching or working other part time jobs (Since I have 3).

    Dosage

    Tried two ways

    1 Scoop Fasted
    This was an Upperbody (Chest/Back/Shoulder workout).
    I started off with 1.5 Dumbbell Bench (all the way down, half way up, back down, and then all the way up) an intensity technique for DB Bench and worked up to 6 sets of the 110’s to get the chest going and then moved into a rest pause work on a hammer strength fly. This is where I performed 10 sets with 15 seconds rest between each set for reps of 3 and really focusing on squeezing at the top of the motion to get the blood pushed into the pecs. While the pump was not as noticeable as a fed state I could still feel the muscles being engaged and pumped (but to a slighter less degree). My focus was very good in a fasted state (Where I give it the edge over fed). For back I did a low row superset like the hack squats you will read below (4 second negative followed by an explosive concentric for 5 reps, wait 15 seconds and then a quick negative and a 4 second concentric where you are focusing on nothing but your elbows and slowly pulling towards your belly button to get the lower lats engaged). Again lower back is a weak spot so I try many different aspects to get it working and engaged to bring it up. I ended the workout with one last superset of hammer strength machine laterals (6 sets of 10) and a hammer strength low row (to engage my stubborn lower lats). The laterals had a 2 second pause at the top and squeeze as did the lower hammer strength rows. Both were back and forth with 30 seconds rest between sets (about the time it took me to walk from machine to machine in the gym). Both provided good pumps and my energy was solid (better than a fed state) and it even lasted about 45 minutes past my workout after dosing around 5:30 in the morning. The CM/BA I can tell play a factor in overall recovery and performance during the workout. Since I have used both in the past and in multiple products they have always treated me right and without them I notice a slight drop in performance and recovery. How much in the formula? We do not know but even if it does not reach the recommended dose of around 6g CM (found in studies) and around 3g of BA throughout the day (which again I doubt due to the amount in the blend) There is still some present. (Slight tingles not much or long)

    1 Scoop Fed
    This was a leg session. I started with squats in a slow negative (3 second), pause (2 second) and explosive concentric to start the workout. After working through 6 sets no energy was dropped and I was cruising with around 60 second rest between sets. After this I moved into a good morning to focus on getting my hamstrings warmed up and also targeting a weak lower back, after 5 sets still no drop in focus and a touch of pump going on in my legs/hamstrings. After this I moved into a superset of hack squat. I would do a 4 second negative followed by an explosive concentric, and then I would pause for 10 seconds and do a quick drop and 4 second concentric as an intensity technique for a twist on a hack squat. This is where my teardrops started to get pumped full of blood and the heart started to throb. With 90 seconds rest between the quick superset of 10 reps it catches up to you fast between the two tempo’s. Lastly I moved into a higher rep leg press with a 3 second negative, 2 second pause and then explosive on the way up and worked up to 15 rep sets that had my quads literally on fire and destroyed. To finish off my hamstrings I would take weighed chains and wear them around my neck and do weighted lunges across the gym and then also do a very slow hold and negative on a leg curl as a superset to put the finishing touches on my leg. Energy never dropped the entire workout. My preferred method and when I am stronger (in a fed state) but like I stated depending on schedule I cannot always make this work.

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    5 Minute Warm-Up On Bike

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    30 Reps over various sets/grips

    Back Squat: (Wave Loading 5/4/3/5/4/3)
    335 x 5 (2 Sets)
    345 x 4 (2 Sets)
    355 x 3 (2 Sets)

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    Good Morning: (2:0:2 Lifting Tempo)
    155 x 6 (5 Sets)

    A1: Slow Concentric Hack Squat (1:0:4 Lifting Tempo)
    1 Plate + 35/Side x 5 (5 Sets)

    A2: Slow Eccentric Hack Squat (4:0:1 Lifting Tempo)
    1 Plate + 35/Side x 5(5 Sets)

    B1: Leg Extension (2:2:1 Lifting Tempo)
    70 (Each Leg) x 5 (4 Sets)

    B2: Dumbbell Curl (2:2:1 Lifting Tempo)
    35's x 5 (4 Sets)

    B3: EZ Bar Curl: (2:2:1 Lifting Tempo)
    20 x 25 (4 Sets)

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    Db Bench Press: (5/4/3/5/4/3 Wave Loading)
    110's x 5 (2 Sets)
    120's x 4 (2 Sets)
    130's x 3 (2 Sets)

    +10 Pounds

    Neutral Grip Overhead DB Shoulder Press: (2:0:2 Tempo)
    65's x 8 (5 Sets)

    +2 Reps

    A1: Slow Concentric Cable Row (1:0:4 Tempo)
    90 x 5 (5 Sets)

    A2: Slow Eccentric Cable Row (4:0:1 Tempo)
    90 x 5 (5 Sets)

    B1: Weighted Chin-Ups: (2:2:1 Rep Tempo)
    BW + 25lb Chain x 5 (4 Sets)

    B2: Weighted Dips: (2:2:1 Rep Tempo)
    BW + 75lb Chains x 5 (4 Sets)

    B3: Diamond Grip Push-Ups (2:2:1 Rep Tempo)
    BW x 30 (4 Sets)

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    Subbed. Very descriptive review . And those meals are looking mighty fine!!
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    Welcome fellas. This is just the beginning
    Hope you enjoy my logging style, feedback, and detail.

    CL Reps -- could you possibly help answer the question i had regarding the formula and blend?

    Also to the reps

    -- Anything else you want me to feedback on for a weekly basis as i post workouts?

    Please let me know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    Welcome fellas. This is just the beginning
    Hope you enjoy my logging style, feedback, and detail.

    CL Reps -- could you possibly help answer the question i had regarding the formula and blend?

    Also to the reps

    -- Anything else you want me to feedback on for a weekly basis as i post workouts?

    Please let me know...

    Currently deloading the next few days, and will be firing this back up Friday HARDCORE with some legs!
    What r u using while logging..I prob missed it..just staples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    What r u using while logging..I prob missed it..just staples?
    I dont use much dude honesetly

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    subbed!!!! lets do this!
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    nice numbers man.......i gotta step my game up
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    nice numbers man.......i gotta step my game up
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    I dont use much dude honesetly

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    Im basic.
    yeah i didn't want to take my creatine cuz i get a good pump alone on it..just wanted to see what reborn was like alllll alone..green mag will be back in now.
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    110's x 3 (6 Sets)

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    65's x 6 (5 Sets)

    A1:Assisted Pull-Ups: (Explosive)
    BW X 15 (5 Sets)

    A2: Hammer Strength Fly Machine: (15 Seconds Rest Between Sets)
    120 x 3 (10 Sets)

    B1: Seated Low Cable Row: (60 Second Rest Between Sets)
    85 x 15 (4 Sets)

    B2: Hammer Strength Lateral Raises: (30 Seconds Rest Between Sets)
    70 x 10 (6 Sets)

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    White Flood Reborn

    Dose - 15 minutes prior to workout (Fasted Stomach) 1 Scoop

    Thoughts --

    Being an upperbody day and more focus on hypertrophy as things went on. i always get a good pump on low rep bench or chest movements, so the 1.5 intensity technique aids in extra MMC (Mind Muscle Connection) this just started and led to a good workout. After moving through the first exercise i could start to feel the stim slowly kick in and aid throughout the rest of the workout. I had no drop in energy, and a good focus from set to set and between the supersets at the end. No complains at all so far on day 3..

    So far so good...


    Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    yeah i didn't want to take my creatine cuz i get a good pump alone on it..just wanted to see what reborn was like alllll alone..green mag will be back in now.
    Creatine does not aid in pump, it aids in recovery/performance/endurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post


    Creatine does not aid in pump, it aids in recovery/performance/endurance.
    completely agreed, but i take green mag which isn't just purely creatine and has a couple other ingredients that possibly have a volumizing effect as stated on CL website so i didn't want any aid. just a pure review of WF reborn.
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    Detailed product review for new and improved CL product AND meal pics from Solution? definitely in for the ride, I'd be interested to hear your guess on the amount of BA used, I have stuck with my 3 g Preworkout dose ever since running C4 at 2 scoops
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    Stop with the amazing food pics! It just makes me want to eat instead of workout lol. Great log so far. Can't wait to start mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Detailed product review for new and improved CL product AND meal pics from Solution? definitely in for the ride, I'd be interested to hear your guess on the amount of BA used, I have stuck with my 3 g Preworkout dose ever since running C4 at 2 scoops
    Would have 0 idea due to the blend, i would not say as much as when i would use C4 + Cellucor BCAA (4g right there) which is plenty and gives you insane tingles and recovery.
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    looking good so far! trying mine tomorrow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    looking good so far! trying mine tomorrow!
    Looking like a good stash you got there brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post

    Looking like a good stash you got there brother.
    Yeah. I would love to try orange triad but the price/multi is hard when I'm on a budget. Not completely sold on multis either. I will hopefully catch it on a good sale soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Yeah. I would love to try orange triad but the price/multi is hard when I'm on a budget. Not completely sold on multis either. I will hopefully catch it on a good sale soon
    im on my third day, waiting for the joint complex to kick in have trouble with my wrists and shoulder... for mine for like 26 or something not too bad..my piss is electric yellow because of the excess riboflavin being wasted lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post

    im on my third day, waiting for the joint complex to kick in have trouble with my wrists and shoulder... for mine for like 26 or something not too bad..my piss is electric yellow because of the excess riboflavin being wasted lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Yeah. I would love to try orange triad but the price/multi is hard when I'm on a budget. Not completely sold on multis either. I will hopefully catch it on a good sale soon
    Cant pass up a multi which is essential and gets the vitamins/minerals we cant get from our diet, this should be a priority
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post

    Cant pass up a multi which is essential and gets the vitamins/minerals we cant get from our diet, this should be a priority
    Couldn't agree more. My OT and Pro Nom are the only 2 constants for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Couldn't agree more. My OT and Pro Nom are the only 2 constants for me
    Still need to try that Pro Nom. OT is a staple though for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    Still need to try that Pro Nom. OT is a staple though for sure.
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    Pull-Ups:
    30 Reps over various sets/grips

    1.5 Squats (Down, half way up, back down, all the way up) ( 1:2:1 Lifting Tempo)
    265 x 3 (6 Sets)

    +5 Pounds

    Sumo Deadlifts (6 @ 80%)
    285 x 6 (5 Sets)

    +5 Pounds

    A1: Hammer Strength Preacher Curl (5:5:1 Lifting Tempo)
    45 Pound Plate x 5 (4 Sets)

    A2: Reverse Grip EZ Bar Curl:
    50 x 15 (4 Sets)

    Leg Press (3:2:1 Lifting Tempo)
    3 Plates/Side x 15 (4 Sets)

    +20lbs

    DB Stiff Leg Deadlifts:
    70's x 10 (4 Sets)

    Post-Workout:

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    Reborn

    Another fasted one, had to move quick i have to head out and teach today (Ap Calculus). Overall the stim off a fasted state is superior IMO, but as stated the agmatine really shines when you pair it in a fed state. Ill hit a later workout tomorrow to see how much pump i can generate on an upperbody day and see if i can snag a picture if anyone is around in the gym (which they usually are). Would be good for the log IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
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    Workout Music:
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    5 Minute Warm-Up On Bike

    Pull-Ups:
    30 Reps over various sets/grips

    1.5 Squats (Down, half way up, back down, all the way up) ( 1:2:1 Lifting Tempo)
    265 x 3 (6 Sets)

    +5 Pounds

    Sumo Deadlifts (6 @ 80%)
    285 x 6 (5 Sets)

    +5 Pounds

    A1: Hammer Strength Preacher Curl (5:5:1 Lifting Tempo)
    45 Pound Plate x 5 (4 Sets)

    A2: Reverse Grip EZ Bar Curl:
    50 x 15 (4 Sets)

    Leg Press (3:2:1 Lifting Tempo)
    3 Plates/Side x 15 (4 Sets)

    +20lbs

    DB Stiff Leg Deadlifts:
    70's x 10 (4 Sets)

    Post-Workout:

    Ham and Cheese Omelete
    Loaded Banana and Strawberry Sweet Potatoes with Honey and Whip Cream
    Peanut Butter Marshmallow Protein Pudding + Apples + Chocolate Sugar



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    Another fasted one, had to move quick i have to head out and teach today (Ap Calculus). Overall the stim off a fasted state is superior IMO, but as stated the agmatine really shines when you pair it in a fed state. Ill hit a later workout tomorrow to see how much pump i can generate on an upperbody day and see if i can snag a picture if anyone is around in the gym (which they usually are). Would be good for the log IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    You are a teacher? I am an admin How did your AP's go? Calc was just Wednesday right?
    I'm a teacher too how do you have time to rep and be an admin! I can't imagine!
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    I'm a teacher too how do you have time to rep and be an admin! I can't imagine!
    Mostly at home. However if there is a quiet 5 mins, I use that
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Mostly at home. However if there is a quiet 5 mins, I use that
    Haha. So mostly at home I'm sure. It is teacher appreciation week ya know... I'm gonna ask supplement companies to do something lol. What state are you in? It's my prep btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post

    Haha. So mostly at home I'm sure. It is teacher appreciation week ya know... I'm gonna ask supplement companies to do something lol. What state are you in? It's my prep btw
    Lol. I work in NJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post

    Lol. I work in NJ.
    Oh ok cool. I'm in ca. First year actually. Common core is going to be interesting! Sorry to bring down the log lol. All teachers could use some flood this time of year. Back on track now
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    congrats on being first year and making it through

    Its a wonderful career
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Three things. Great workout! Did you hear about as I lay stings singer trying to have his wife killed? And are you a teacher?
    Yes i posted that in the general chat thread about that incident with tim and his wife (hired an ex cop to kill her) and now hes arrested

    i am a substitue teacher.

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    You are a teacher? I am an admin How did your AP's go? Calc was just Wednesday right?
    Substitue teacher.
    AP calc.

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