First Log: Leangains with Test Powder, Erase, Versa-1

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    I'm not a big guy by any means so vascularity does come easier for me, during and after lifting always but never to the extent it has been since starting this stack, Versa in particular.
    Running this stack has had me pumped up all day long even when relaxing, especially around my TP dose. That is something I never had prior.

    I have gained weight since starting which makes these vascularity increases all the more impressive to me, the synergy with Erase giving me the 'dried out' look is a contributor here to help me look lean.

    My Versa run is done it's 8 weeks at the same time this stack wraps up so once I'm off everything I will maybe post an update as to which effects faded and how quickly after.

    I probably don't look like I need a cut but that is my plan for my next run, I lean out easily everywhere but my gut, I've never had exposed abs and aim to get them this summer. Drove myself crazy last summer trying, hoping that HIIT, keeping to a deficit while carb cycling, and smart supplementation will get me there this time
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    I'm not a big guy by any means so vascularity does come easier for me, during and after lifting always but never to the extent it has been since starting this stack, Versa in particular.
    Running this stack has had me pumped up all day long even when relaxing, especially around my TP dose. That is something I never had prior.

    I have gained weight since starting which makes these vascularity increases all the more impressive to me, the synergy with Erase giving me the 'dried out' look is a contributor here to help me look lean.

    My Versa run is done it's 8 weeks at the same time this stack wraps up so once I'm off everything I will maybe post an update as to which effects faded and how quickly after.

    I probably don't look like I need a cut but that is my plan for my next run, I lean out easily everywhere but my gut, I've never had exposed abs and aim to get them this summer. Drove myself crazy last summer trying, hoping that HIIT, keeping to a deficit while carb cycling, and smart supplementation will get me there this time
    Excited to see the final review .

    The gut is probably the most difficult/stubborn place to lean out at which makes it very frustrating.

    HIIT + carb cycling + smart supplementation will get you there for sure though. Carb cycling is really effective/beneficial for me personally.
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  3. I found my most appreciable lower ab/back fat loss following a strict CHO cycling protocol with IF last spring in conjunction with some well planned supplements. I bet if you put your mind to it you'll get those abs this year.
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    I've only been lean enough to come close this past summer and now this year I think I will get there.

    Was pretty overweight before, spent 2 years cleaning up my diet and adding cardio and dropped 95 lbs.
    Now I'm slowly trying to add weight (muscle of course) yearly, funny how that works.

    I keep reading successful logs with IF and am considering it if I can't reach my goal with my planned diet the next 2 months, I can't imagine getting through my workdays without food though.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    I've only been lean enough to come close this past summer and now this year I think I will get there.

    Was pretty overweight before, spent 2 years cleaning up my diet and adding cardio and dropped 95 lbs.
    Now I'm slowly trying to add weight (muscle of course) yearly, funny how that works.

    I keep reading successful logs with IF and am considering it if I can't reach my goal with my planned diet the next 2 months, I can't imagine getting through my workdays without food though.
    At first IF is pretty difficult to get used to. As the time goes on with IF'ing though, you will adapt to it.

    I rely on appetite suppressants though which help tremendously and are the main reason I feel into IF'ing (Alphamine).
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    I'm not a big guy by any means so vascularity does come easier for me, during and after lifting always but never to the extent it has been since starting this stack, Versa in particular.
    Running this stack has had me pumped up all day long even when relaxing, especially around my TP dose. That is something I never had prior.

    I have gained weight since starting which makes these vascularity increases all the more impressive to me, the synergy with Erase giving me the 'dried out' look is a contributor here to help me look lean.

    My Versa run is done it's 8 weeks at the same time this stack wraps up so once I'm off everything I will maybe post an update as to which effects faded and how quickly after.

    I probably don't look like I need a cut but that is my plan for my next run, I lean out easily everywhere but my gut, I've never had exposed abs and aim to get them this summer. Drove myself crazy last summer trying, hoping that HIIT, keeping to a deficit while carb cycling, and smart supplementation will get me there this time

    VERSA-1 has the same effect on my vascularity, regardless of lowering my body fat...it's awesome. I get veins popping up in areas where I've previously had none.

    I think your approach should get you where you want to be this summer. I haven't carb cycled (considering it though), but HIIT and IF seems to be helping me currently. Like kbayne mentioned, IF got a lot easier as time went on. After the first week, I didn't really have any hunger issues. Alphamine, and now OEP, have made the morning fast a breeze.
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  7. IF is just a tool and nothing magical IMO. I find it is helpful in the sense that I can limit my mornings to no food (allows me to fully focus on my early work times and get other things done), make my eating window shorter (allows easier caloric restriction with increased ability to "fit" certain foods into my meals), and gives a change of pace. While it helped me get the leanest I have ever been I have maintained a much lower set point of body fat and gotten lean with out it as well.

    It may be worth a shot if it fits your situation but not worth it doesn't.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    IF is just a tool and nothing magical IMO. I find it is helpful in the sense that I can limit my mornings to no food (allows me to fully focus on my early work times and get other things done), make my eating window shorter (allows easier caloric restriction with increased ability to "fit" certain foods into my meals), and gives a change of pace. While it helped me get the leanest I have ever been I have maintained a much lower set point of body fat and gotten lean with out it as well.

    It may be worth a shot if it fits your situation but not worth it doesn't.
    Yeah, I agree 100%. It's just a good fit for my schedule and goals currently. I enjoy my fasted training and smaller eating window. The reduced amount of time to eat has made a lower caloric intake a lot easier for me to handle.
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    Days 26, 27

    Yes that means tomorrow is the end, could see the bottom of my TP tub this morning and have 1 cap of Versa-1 left.

    I will try to get my pictures up by tomorrow and final review but it is a busy day for me so it may be slightly delayed.

    It was my off day today but yesterday's workout went well, I don't think I have had a poor workout while on this stack, normally I can expect at least one day where I am drained or just not all there.
    Weight is up as I will log tomorrow, still don 't see any apparent fat gain, if anything this stack turned my slow bulk into a recomp. I am at a good starting point for my cut, and finally the weather is improving around here.

    Already know I will be running this stack again, probably cycling it for the duration of the summer, 4 weeks on 4 off. Still deciding what to do in the 4 between weeks.

    Thinking something like this..

    4 weeks:
    Test Powder
    Erase Pro
    Forskolin-95

    4 weeks:
    Anabeta Elite
    Compound 20

    repeat.

    I read that Forskolin takes time to kick in so I figure this way I am consistently dosing it as it is in ABE.
    Trying to keep the dried out look but know I can't take Erase constantly so I'm hoping C20 can fill that role in the alternate 4 weeks.
    Thoughts or other suggestions?

    I will be waking up to Alphamine or OEP powder through the summer and using Enhanced for my evening workouts.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Days 26, 27

    Yes that means tomorrow is the end, could see the bottom of my TP tub this morning and have 1 cap of Versa-1 left.

    I will try to get my pictures up by tomorrow and final review but it is a busy day for me so it may be slightly delayed.

    It was my off day today but yesterday's workout went well, I don't think I have had a poor workout while on this stack, normally I can expect at least one day where I am drained or just not all there.
    Weight is up as I will log tomorrow, still don 't see any apparent fat gain, if anything this stack turned my slow bulk into a recomp. I am at a good starting point for my cut, and finally the weather is improving around here.

    Already know I will be running this stack again, probably cycling it for the duration of the summer, 4 weeks on 4 off. Still deciding what to do in the 4 between weeks.

    Thinking something like this..

    4 weeks:
    Test Powder
    Erase Pro
    Forskolin-95

    4 weeks:
    Anabeta Elite
    Compound 20

    repeat.

    I read that Forskolin takes time to kick in so I figure this way I am consistently dosing it as it is in ABE.
    Trying to keep the dried out look but know I can't take Erase constantly so I'm hoping C20 can fill that role in the alternate 4 weeks.
    Thoughts or other suggestions?

    I will be waking up to Alphamine or OEP powder through the summer and using Enhanced for my evening workouts.
    I like your set up for your next stack choices. Forskolin does take a bit to kick in, and I like that you will be running it for 4 weeks then hoping on ABE .

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Days 26, 27

    Yes that means tomorrow is the end, could see the bottom of my TP tub this morning and have 1 cap of Versa-1 left.

    I will try to get my pictures up by tomorrow and final review but it is a busy day for me so it may be slightly delayed.

    It was my off day today but yesterday's workout went well, I don't think I have had a poor workout while on this stack, normally I can expect at least one day where I am drained or just not all there.
    Weight is up as I will log tomorrow, still don 't see any apparent fat gain, if anything this stack turned my slow bulk into a recomp. I am at a good starting point for my cut, and finally the weather is improving around here.

    Already know I will be running this stack again, probably cycling it for the duration of the summer, 4 weeks on 4 off. Still deciding what to do in the 4 between weeks.

    Thinking something like this..

    4 weeks:
    Test Powder
    Erase Pro
    Forskolin-95

    4 weeks:
    Anabeta Elite
    Compound 20

    repeat.

    I read that Forskolin takes time to kick in so I figure this way I am consistently dosing it as it is in ABE.
    Trying to keep the dried out look but know I can't take Erase constantly so I'm hoping C20 can fill that role in the alternate 4 weeks.
    Thoughts or other suggestions?

    I will be waking up to Alphamine or OEP powder through the summer and using Enhanced for my evening workouts.
    Looking forward to the pics and reading your final thoughts. What will your goals be over the summer? Maybe we can do better than a cycle of 4/4/repeat and tailor it more specifically to what you want to accomplish. If you do an Anabeta + Compound 20 stack I would definitely go for 8 weeks instead of 4.
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    It's been a great 28 days but it's time to end my run however that means time for my review of the stack.

    Dosing:
    I took Test Powder 6 days a week with breakfast, as recommended.
    Erase I dosed at 2 caps a day, one of which I took with breakfast and the other I took with dinner every day.
    Versa-1 I dosed pre-workout every day which for me was after work at about 6:30 every night

    Diet: Paleo diet, all natural and unprocessed food sources with the exception of protein powders which I used post-workout and at work as a snack between meals. Primary proteins were chicken breast, whey, greek yogurt, dry pressed cottage cheese late at night, turkey breast, egg whites and whole eggs for breakfast daily, etc.
    Carbs came from a tonne of vegetables and fruits, fruits I primarily kept to the post-workout window (banana in shake, etc.)
    Fats came from eggs, plain almonds, natural PB/Almond butter, extra virgin olive oil, flax and chia added to shakes, almond milk, EFA pills.

    Macros were 60/20/20 P/C/F
    I ate consistently at 400 cals above maintenance.

    Workouts were every other day alternating lower/upper body. alternating high/low intensity from one workout to the next, most of my routine was taken from PHAT with my own twists.

    Over the 28 days I gained 3.1 lbs, equating to just under a pound a week, this was less than my intention but I hadn't had experience with these supplements before to adjust my diet to fit. My intention was to have a lean bulk and it turned into more of a recomp, I am definitely not complaining about that though I definitely have better definition and won't have to cut as hard/for as long now.

    Sum of noted stack effects:
    Vascularity
    'dried out' leaned appearence
    nutrient partitioning
    mood elevation
    Energy increase
    libido increases
    anabolic, muscle building environment (I definitely gained easier, hit some PR's along the way)
    Workout focus (muscle/mind connection)

    The most pronounced effect for me and the one experienced immediately after starting was the vascularity. If you scroll back through the log I posted a demonstrating picture of this. I have never had vascularity like this, taking Test Powder with my breakfast (biggest meal besides post-workout) had my muscles full and pumped up throughout my entire workday. Combine this with the Erase giving me a leaner look and the definition was unreal. Then I would take my Versa-1 and workout, vascularity was off the charts. Loved it.

    Next up was the mood elevation and energy, I haven't had such a productive streak at work in a long time, I work long days in a fairly stressful/physically strenuous environment, but I was never groggy or overly moody in times I would have been before. Also on the days I did try taking TestPowder preworkout, these effects applied to my performance as well.

    Focus. This invaluable workout tool is something Versa-1 does well. I've said it many times throughout the log but it merits being said again, workouts take on a whole new aspect when you are focused on the task at hand, on your tempo, on the feel of your muscle contractions, on your form. I found myself adding a lot more TUT to my lifts just to get more of the feeling from each one, while maintaining my rep counts.

    Erase did not work for me as a solo product. After a week I broke out in pretty bad acne and my libido was dead. On this stack Neither of these sides were experienced, my libido actually increased about 2 weeks in. The next time I run this I feel comfortable increasing my Erase dose to the full 3 caps a day, or upgrading to Erase Pro.

    Flavor: Obviously no notes here for Versa-1 or Erase, Test Powder however I found quite enjoyable. I used Fruit Punch this run and plan to try Blue Razz next time around. I braced myself on day 1 as I had read DAA products weren't renown for their taste, and I was pleasantly surprised. It became something I enjoyed drinking every morning with my breakfast, 2 scoops in 10 ml cold water.

    Would I recommend this stack? I ordered it again, and am ordering more when the TP/EP combo hits Nutra. It has great potential in any situation, in a caloric deficit it can give extra energy and help keep Test up when fat intake is lower. For a recomp I found it to have great partitioning and leaning effects, and for a bulk it did add to my hunger, as well as accelerating the rate of my muscle gains.

    Enough of me blathering on though I apologize for being long winded I just wanted to be thorough for my first log, I am glad I chose to log this, it kept me on top of my diet and workouts more than normal so I didn't look like an idiot when I posted results here and made no progress lol. Thank you to everyone who followed and helped answer my questions along the way. I will shut up now and post some pictures. Bear with me as I still can't post them from my computer so I have some file shuffling to my phone to do and it tends to only let me post them one at a time. Quality on the before pictures is fairly terrible. To the point that it may be hard to gauge differences, I apologize for this but hope you can see the improvements I feel.
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    My vascularity During, towards the end of my run

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    Second image is a repost. Both these were taken after a leg workout, no direct arm involvement.
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    The Finale


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    That's a wrap.

  17. Awesome final review and great log!

    You def are looking, as you said, drier! Up 3lbs to boot is awesome as well.

    I apologize if I missed it but what were you final strength differences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Awesome final review and great log!

    You def are looking, as you said, drier! Up 3lbs to boot is awesome as well.

    I apologize if I missed it but what were you final strength differences?
    Damn and here I thought my massive post said it all.
    I haven't been posting my numbers exactly as it's a bit intimidating around here lol I know I am a lightweight but once I finally hit my goal I aim to rectify that.

    What I can say is that I set 4 new PR's during this stack, only one of which I was close to hitting before starting.
    Bumped up weights in bench press, overhead press, every curl bumped up 5 lbs. but I count that as one, and I added 10 lbs. to my squats.

    Another note and I guess a good measure is that I can now do an extra 6 pullups (wide grip, body weight, controlled pace) when doing a single set to failure.

    I wish I had thought to take leg and back shots before, my fiancÚ says there is progress there as well. Next time I will be prepared
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  19. Awesome log and review man! It was very detailed and informative throughout. Congrats on your progress as well; +3lbs is fantastic, especially while looking leaner/drier. Those lower abdomen veins are sick!


    It's funny that you added 6 pullups to your total. If I remember correctly, I did exactly the same during my first VERSA-1 run and believe DW might have as well.
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  20. Saw the review last night on my phone before I passed out and came to check this morning to see some nice pics to prove the effectiveness of your run. Seems you got out of it what you put in (some solid work ) and congrats man.
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  21. Nice first log and congrats. I'm glad it went so well for you man. Final review was nice and descriptive

  22. Awesome review bud. Seriously 3lbs plus leaning out is a winner. Look forward to your next stack
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  23. Now THAT is a review! Very thorough. That's definitely a solid 3 lb. you put on. Great results Driven2lift.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Awesome log and review man! It was very detailed and informative throughout. Congrats on your progress as well; +3lbs is fantastic, especially while looking leaner/drier. Those lower abdomen veins are sick!

    It's funny that you added 6 pullups to your total. If I remember correctly, I did exactly the same during my first VERSA-1 run and believe DW might have as well.
    Yep, it was 6 lol.
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    Next up is my cut until abs just so I cam say after so long that I did it, followed by a lean bulk from then on, I could use some more size.

    As for my cut did anyone have further suggestions for me? I want to lose slowly to save my gains as much as possible.

    Thoughts on the 4/4 split I mentioned? Completely open to different supps or ideas as well, I just selected ABE and C20 based on positive reviews.

    Anything to help keep my muscle on while trying to expose some abs!
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