GETTING BACK IN IT! Natty transformation
- 03-19-2013, 10:25 AM
GETTING BACK IN IT! NATTY TRANSFORMATION! long-term log
I'm new to these forums, but have already found great advice and information. Spent hours on here trying to plan ahead as best I could to reach the goals I'm after. Nothing does it better then Arnold's Pumping Iron video! Just as a background, I'm a little more than 5'7" and about 157 pounds. I have never been over 140 in my life until 2 years ago once I started working out on and off. I find myself working out for a solid 6 months and then something comes up and for some reason I stop. Well this is the last time I'm stopping, and making this log is my way of helping with that. My main goal is to lose my body fat (though it isn't much just love handles, but i hate ANY) and to completely transform my body by drastically increasing LBM. I'm starting this log and have before pictures but I'm not continuing my log until i've been in the gym for a week or two, nothing worse then the horrible workouts after not working out for months. I'm starting off slow and not soo many supplements but a few, mostly concentrating on my eating with carbs protein and fat intake...but not necessarily counting carbs if you know what i mean. Once I get to where I want to start the log whether its a couple days or a week, i will be posting every other day with updates on how i'm feeling, my progression, workouts and a few other things. I am currently taking a few natty supps such as igf-2 and neovar. I have felt great on igf-2 so wanted to try out a few other of AN products for a few weeks to see how they effect me. I don't know if its normal but I feel like I see changes a lot quicker than normal. I haven't worked out in forever but I have a decent base to start off with and I'm very concentrated when I workout which I think is important. I don't think it'll be very log that you will start to notice how my body is starting to change. Since I'm so skinny I tend to get ripped even when dirty bulking so this should be fun now on a lean bulk. I have trying out a few samples during the next couple weeks from AN to see if I will be using any other of their products.. but for now its just the staples and the igf-2 and FOOD.
I will also be logging multiple products as the log goes on, finding out what works for me. If it helps I'll keep it, if not then on to the next one.
I will have pics up in a few days, hopefully can start this log soon. COME SUPPORT and watch as I transform!
any questions you have for me or ideas, please it is welcome, whether its advice or criticism.
- 03-19-2013, 06:35 PM
- 03-20-2013, 07:28 AM
Hey obey I'm at about 2800 to 3000 right now..normally eating im at around 2300-2500 so i figured i'd just add an extra 500..
03-21-2013, 08:06 AM
Alright girlfriends kid got beat up last night so couldnt make it to the gym with the hospital and police trip, so gunna be going to tonight instead.. I'm still sore from the past two workouts, always end up going way too hard for my first few days back..Still getting past the sore stage but will be doing shoulders and back probably doing supersets to get some pump since i lost all of my damn strength being a vagina and not working out for 6 months lol..
so far this is how i've been taking the igf-2 and neovar
ifg-2 - 3 caps twice daily crack-a-dawn and right before i pass out
days off - 3 before lunch and 3 before dinner
workout days - 3 before lunch, 3 pwo, and 3 post work out right before dinner
read a lot about those two supps so believe i'm dosing them right...
Feeling really good out fo the gym but that is mostly do to the tightness and soreness since i haven't worked out in so long. Once i get past the sore phase I'll advise on muscle tightness and fullness
Sleep has been awesome which is the biggest plus for me cuz i just don't sleep...as soon as I starting taking igf-2 i've been sleeping like a baby.
Lost a couple pounds in the past few days and can feel it right around my love handles...eating right is already making its changes in my body as i've only worked out twice, maybe because of the neovar doing its job with carbs and nutrient repartitioner..
All in all feeling great and waiting on some samples that should be in today or tomorrow thanks to Obey46 and applied nutriceuticals! can't wait to give them a go. Please leave any comments on anything else i should be posting about.
03-21-2013, 06:37 PM
03-21-2013, 06:38 PM
Yikes sorry to hear about your gf's kid. Hope your gf and her kid is alright.Your dosing seems to be right. Though it might be early, have you been noticing any pumps via Neovar? You might be able to get away w/ 4 caps each day, but I'd see how 6 goes for you first.
03-21-2013, 07:31 PM
Ive been seeing minimal pumps nothing crazy..gunna try uncut pwo and see how that goes only been a werk on neovar deff still have some work to do..feel great in thr gum though just need better mind muscle concentration..should be getting my samples tom!
03-22-2013, 07:33 AM
03-22-2013, 07:40 AM
Did back/shoulders last night..felt soooo good.. my first two workouts were so crappy because i was just starting, but i was doing pretty much the same weight i was doing when i use to workout which is great!. felt a nice pump in my lats and traps...i think my traps are the only thing that stayed with me this whole time not working out way bigger when comparing muscle groups and symmetry :/ but now i know i don't have to work those as much
Mind muscle connection was a lot better last night. I felt strong unlike my previous workouts. Also this morning my whole upper body feels a lot firmer and fuller. Must be the NEOVAR doing its job .. Can't wait to have a good chest day!
Edit: at work and saw my veins popping out crazy..vascularity setting inn
03-22-2013, 07:29 PM
03-22-2013, 08:01 PM
My girlfriend is pregnant..we got pregnant before I was taking any supplements..now she is uncomfortable with all the supplements I want take if, to be a little graphic lol, I would be going in her while shes pregnsnt..she thinks it will harm her and/or the baby..I tried calming her mind but I think I need someone that knows the scientifics behind natty supps to let me know everything's alright
03-25-2013, 12:29 PM
03-25-2013, 06:53 PM
03-25-2013, 09:46 PM
03-26-2013, 09:47 AM
A Great start in here, just a note at your bodyweight there is really no need to be dropping that much Neovar IMO. I use 5 daily with my biggest carb meal. Keep it up young man.
03-26-2013, 11:37 AM
03-26-2013, 01:32 PM
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
03-26-2013, 01:39 PM
thanks again dirk
03-26-2013, 07:41 PM
the maintenance dose for a 200 lb. male is about three grams a day, and considering you get some from real food ( yup it's true ) hitting 2 1/2 grams a day is more than enough for you to maintain your saturation point.
03-26-2013, 08:25 PM
03-27-2013, 10:33 AM
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
03-27-2013, 11:24 AM
Thank you for the information again dirk..much appreciated..no heart beat on the sonogram last night..that was hard..need to go work out and take my mind off things.
But as always thank you guys for all ur info
03-27-2013, 02:09 PM
03-27-2013, 05:19 PM
03-27-2013, 06:44 PM
03-27-2013, 07:51 PM
03-27-2013, 11:49 PM
04-02-2013, 12:48 PM
Sorry for the depressing part of the thread but I'm back in it and me and the fam are doing much better.
To update this thread i just wanted to add the total supps that i am taking
igf-2 - 3 in the morning, 3 before bed
NEOvar - 2 before lunch, 2 before dinner (On workout days i take 2 prior to working out as well)
drive - 2 morning and 2 pwo
rpm - 2 pwo
factor 2 - 2 in the morning 2 pwo
and obviously staples protein, fish oil, multi vit, omegas
Now i don't know if anyone still uses drive and rpm, but i had them in the my samples thanks to appnut and obey46! Anyways i used UNCUT twice. the first time i pretty much felt nothing. The second time i was in a verrry focused mood. I think the best way to explain it is like an adderal feeling lol. Pump was alright but nothing too great.
So i ran out of uncut samples and decided to take drive and rpm pwo. HOLY CRAP i had THE BEST workout i've had in a while. NO jitters NO stim feel NOTHING.. i felt normal only like i had great sleep and was full of normal natural energy, not the type of energy you get from any products or drinks. you could not stop me or get me out of the gym.. i didn't write it down but the volume i put up would probably go into the guiness records book. Let me note that i ripped out stumps and cleared old logs and started a bonfire for about 3 hours after that awesome workout and started laying a stone path. Talk about productive . This was on Saturday.
So yesterday comes and I decided to take drive rpm and something called Factor 2? I got it free from my buddy that clicked on some promo. Anyways it said use it with breakfast and pre workout so thats what i did yesterday. Retract my last statement as my best workout ever because this one was. The pump i had made me look bigger that guys that have been workout out for 2 years straight no breaks ahead of me. The best part was that my muscles literally kept taking everything i put on them. i'd do a crazy superset for bi's and tri's and feel dead in the arms, did some shoulder work, and went back to arms and did fullll sets AGAIN. I finally realized that i had to stop or i'd blow up lol.
so its today and just from saturday and monday, i look and feel way fuller, like my pump hasn't gone away yet. appnut products really do what they say, that fuller muscle is no B-S. I went into the gym with rpm and drive thinking it wouldn't do anything or be close to uncut, no placebo effect, i am blown away with those products and actually bought them INSTEAD of uncut. I dunno what it is but i just felt way better on those two pills then uncut. Don't get me wrong uncut is a great product but i am horrible with stims..i can take it at 12 pm and not be able to sleep all night.
I know im ranting but i haven't been able to update this in a bit and i'm excited to be able to workout without feeling high off my ass. I think i'm addicted to the pump like arnold said in pumpin iron so i order SWOLL-N and order some more drive and rpm as i stated before. i think the energy and pump is going to be amazing and natural. already added 10 pounds to my bench and i have a feeling i'll be going up when i do chest as well . Thanks for anyone checking out my thread. itll be updated regularly again.
04-02-2013, 12:53 PM
Also to add, once i'm done with my current list of pills, i have compound 20, prime, anabeta, and erase and hgh up to do a cycle with...might do abe and ep instead since summer is coming though..
04-02-2013, 02:33 PM
Glad things took a turn for the better bro! Yes people still use RPM/Drive. As a matter of fact, Drive is a backbone to my stack. I like how it buffers lactic acid on high volume days, make my pumps more solid and not to mention ehance endurance a little. The libido is an extra goodie.
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