GETTING BACK IN IT! Natty transformation

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  1. I'd stick with your current dosage of 6 daily for IGF2


  2. Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    Thank you for the information again dirk..much appreciated..no heart beat on the sonogram last night..that was hard..need to go work out and take my mind off things.

    But as always thank you guys for all ur info
    Keeping you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.
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  3. Sorry for the depressing part of the thread but I'm back in it and me and the fam are doing much better.

    To update this thread i just wanted to add the total supps that i am taking
    igf-2 - 3 in the morning, 3 before bed
    NEOvar - 2 before lunch, 2 before dinner (On workout days i take 2 prior to working out as well)
    drive - 2 morning and 2 pwo
    rpm - 2 pwo
    factor 2 - 2 in the morning 2 pwo

    and obviously staples protein, fish oil, multi vit, omegas

    Now i don't know if anyone still uses drive and rpm, but i had them in the my samples thanks to appnut and obey46! Anyways i used UNCUT twice. the first time i pretty much felt nothing. The second time i was in a verrry focused mood. I think the best way to explain it is like an adderal feeling lol. Pump was alright but nothing too great.

    So i ran out of uncut samples and decided to take drive and rpm pwo. HOLY CRAP i had THE BEST workout i've had in a while. NO jitters NO stim feel NOTHING.. i felt normal only like i had great sleep and was full of normal natural energy, not the type of energy you get from any products or drinks. you could not stop me or get me out of the gym.. i didn't write it down but the volume i put up would probably go into the guiness records book. Let me note that i ripped out stumps and cleared old logs and started a bonfire for about 3 hours after that awesome workout and started laying a stone path. Talk about productive . This was on Saturday.

    So yesterday comes and I decided to take drive rpm and something called Factor 2? I got it free from my buddy that clicked on some promo. Anyways it said use it with breakfast and pre workout so thats what i did yesterday. Retract my last statement as my best workout ever because this one was. The pump i had made me look bigger that guys that have been workout out for 2 years straight no breaks ahead of me. The best part was that my muscles literally kept taking everything i put on them. i'd do a crazy superset for bi's and tri's and feel dead in the arms, did some shoulder work, and went back to arms and did fullll sets AGAIN. I finally realized that i had to stop or i'd blow up lol.

    so its today and just from saturday and monday, i look and feel way fuller, like my pump hasn't gone away yet. appnut products really do what they say, that fuller muscle is no B-S. I went into the gym with rpm and drive thinking it wouldn't do anything or be close to uncut, no placebo effect, i am blown away with those products and actually bought them INSTEAD of uncut. I dunno what it is but i just felt way better on those two pills then uncut. Don't get me wrong uncut is a great product but i am horrible with stims..i can take it at 12 pm and not be able to sleep all night.

    I know im ranting but i haven't been able to update this in a bit and i'm excited to be able to workout without feeling high off my ass. I think i'm addicted to the pump like arnold said in pumpin iron so i order SWOLL-N and order some more drive and rpm as i stated before. i think the energy and pump is going to be amazing and natural. already added 10 pounds to my bench and i have a feeling i'll be going up when i do chest as well . Thanks for anyone checking out my thread. itll be updated regularly again.

  4. Also to add, once i'm done with my current list of pills, i have compound 20, prime, anabeta, and erase and hgh up to do a cycle with...might do abe and ep instead since summer is coming though..

  5. Glad things took a turn for the better bro! Yes people still use RPM/Drive. As a matter of fact, Drive is a backbone to my stack. I like how it buffers lactic acid on high volume days, make my pumps more solid and not to mention ehance endurance a little. The libido is an extra goodie.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Obey46 View Post
    Glad things took a turn for the better bro! Yes people still use RPM/Drive. As a matter of fact, Drive is a backbone to my stack. I like how it buffers lactic acid on high volume days, make my pumps more solid and not to mention ehance endurance a little. The libido is an extra goodie.
    endurance is crazy...im the type of person that once im done im done...can't even open my car door after a workout..and this was NOT the case with drive..i'd consider it a staple as well deff glad i tried it.

  7. How's it going bro?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Obey46 View Post
    How's it going bro?
    Doing chest as we speak..best chest pump ive had ever..pr's as well :-)

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    Feeling great!

  10. Last of the protein shake! Ready for my anti catabolic protein to log for usplabs !

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  11. did an experiment and took rpm this morning for work and actually do feel a nice concentration on work..too bad my concentration is on AM instead of my work!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    did an experiment and took rpm this morning for work and actually do feel a nice concentration on work..too bad my concentration is on AM instead of my work!
    LOL I hear yeah on getting addicted to the boards. Solid pics/update!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Obey46 View Post
    LOL I hear yeah on getting addicted to the boards. Solid pics/update!
    thanks obey46! i appreciate it..may not look like much to many on this forum because of where they are at in their own body building, but its far from where i was..wish i had a before pic!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    thanks obey46! i appreciate it..may not look like much to many on this forum because of where they are at in their own body building, but its far from where i was..wish i had a before pic!
    I hear ya. I'm about the same build. I can eat 4k calories a week and barely gain anything.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Obey46 View Post

    I hear ya. I'm about the same build. I can eat 4k calories a week and barely gain anything.
    I hope u mean a day! Lol those calories per werk no one would gain on!

  16. Oops per day lol

  17. took a break from working out last night..had an agility test for my police exam.. RPM, Drive, and I killed it to say the least..did the most pushups, situps and came 3rd in the 1.5 mile in a group of 100...loving my supps!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    took a break from working out last night..had an agility test for my police exam.. RPM, Drive, and I killed it to say the least..did the most pushups, situps and came 3rd in the 1.5 mile in a group of 100...loving my supps!
    Nice,Grats bro! How long is the academy?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Obey46 View Post
    Nice,Grats bro! How long is the academy?
    Not at that point yet not that lucky lol...still gotta do the background check and psych evaluation, but so far so good

  20. Soo last night i took my normal rpm and drive preworkout, and SWOLL-N came the night before so took that as well to add to my pumps. The pumps i actually got were different last night. It was more of a burning sensation and a MUCH fuller LOOKING pump. I felt like it took long to get a pump though so i ended my normal workout doing supersets for arms to get a gauge on SWOLL-N. Last night i was on the fence about it. But i woke up today feeling SOLID. I haven't worked out in 3 days and i feel like crap when that happens, but I have that full and tight feeling without being completely sore... and trust me i destroyed my chest and arms last night to pure hypertrophy. I like SWOLL-N, but i'm wanting the pumps to feel skin tearing like people state and haven't got that yet..going to see how it differs in a week or so..but deff like that morning after effects!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    Soo last night i took my normal rpm and drive preworkout, and SWOLL-N came the night before so took that as well to add to my pumps. The pumps i actually got were different last night. It was more of a burning sensation and a MUCH fuller LOOKING pump. I felt like it took long to get a pump though so i ended my normal workout doing supersets for arms to get a gauge on SWOLL-N. Last night i was on the fence about it. But i woke up today feeling SOLID. I haven't worked out in 3 days and i feel like crap when that happens, but I have that full and tight feeling without being completely sore... and trust me i destroyed my chest and arms last night to pure hypertrophy. I like SWOLL-N, but i'm wanting the pumps to feel skin tearing like people state and haven't got that yet..going to see how it differs in a week or so..but deff like that morning after effects!
    Nice! Gotta love the pumps. Are you still taking Neovar?

  22. ofcourse and its lasting forever because i heard from you and from another appnut to just keep it at 4 total caps a day so my bottles basically full compared to my IGF-2 lol..

    edit: but i must say, i don't think im getting the effects from neovar anymore ...i mean my muscles are obv bigger than when i started and my arms are a lot fuller, but don't feel any different? i dunno maybe im use to it..i have a lot of caps left and im going to finish the bottle, but i think i might do creignite or musclepharm creatine. I know with con-cret i felt solid, not full but just rock hard. Maybe too early to gauge..or too low of a dose i dunno.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    ofcourse and its lasting forever because i heard from you and from another appnut to just keep it at 4 total caps a day so my bottles basically full compared to my IGF-2 lol..

    edit: but i must say, i don't think im getting the effects from neovar anymore ...i mean my muscles are obv bigger than when i started and my arms are a lot fuller, but don't feel any different? i dunno maybe im use to it..i have a lot of caps left and im going to finish the bottle, but i think i might do creignite or musclepharm creatine. I know with con-cret i felt solid, not full but just rock hard. Maybe too early to gauge..or too low of a dose i dunno.
    Well it's creatine per say. Are the pumps much different compared to before? Has your strength been decreasing or increasing since then? Creignite interests me as well. I have 590 caps of Neovar which I'll end up using starting in the summer. Should last about 6 months? Designer creatine is good and tastes great, but IMO I'd settle for whats cheaper and efficient like SNS bulk creatine or something like Neovar.

  24. Today I had the worst workout ever..uncapped swoll-n ..lol never doing that again..I feel like endurance has increased but strength isnt going up as fast

    Edit: i did back and arms, but by the time i got to arms i had NO energy...atleast thats what it felt like..got light headed and felt weird...i also did deadlifts heavy for the first time ever, so that could have been what caused it..BUT i didnt feel **** when i was doing cable pulldowns.no pump at all..usually can do 50 pounds more and have good form..only other difference is i did pullups before hand because i can barely do any after pulldowns...even lowered the weight to do more reps and still couldnt get a pump...im gunna try swoll-n one more time CAPPED, if i have another ****ty workout im deleting it from my supps. Got plenty of pump before, was just trying to maximize it..

    My pump was horrible and i felt like i got a crappy workout, but on another note, i still couldnt lift myself out of bed easily like i did get a good workout, and my arms feel full and i can feel some soreness in my lats...very confusing workout..not sure whats going on..

  25. Quote Originally Posted by determinator View Post
    Today I had the worst workout ever..uncapped swoll-n ..lol never doing that again..I feel like endurance has increased but strength isnt going up as fast

    Edit: i did back and arms, but by the time i got to arms i had NO energy...atleast thats what it felt like..got light headed and felt weird...i also did deadlifts heavy for the first time ever, so that could have been what caused it..BUT i didnt feel **** when i was doing cable pulldowns.no pump at all..usually can do 50 pounds more and have good form..only other difference is i did pullups before hand because i can barely do any after pulldowns...even lowered the weight to do more reps and still couldnt get a pump...im gunna try swoll-n one more time CAPPED, if i have another ****ty workout im deleting it from my supps. Got plenty of pump before, was just trying to maximize it..

    My pump was horrible and i felt like i got a crappy workout, but on another note, i still couldnt lift myself out of bed easily like i did get a good workout, and my arms feel full and i can feel some soreness in my lats...very confusing workout..not sure whats going on..
    What kind of training are you doing for strength not meeting your expectations? The heavy DL's may have caused it. Did it once and tried squats afterwards, didn't happen lol
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