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    First up a HUGE thanks and shout out to Snag for this opportunity, brother you know I admire and respect you a lot and it means a lot you are letting me try this. The package also arrived with a pair of Head Phones from FinaFlex (which Is now my second pair since I bought the package with BCAA/SAA ). Much appreciated brother, now let's get this show rolling.

    The idea:

    -A capped Pre-workout with a 4 cap dosage 30 minutes prior to training.
    -Stim Free
    -Creatine Free

    The goals:
    -Increased Vasodilatation
    -Increased Vascularity
    -Enhanced Performance
    -Increased Endurance

    Ingredients:
    -Top Secret and Unknown to me for now.

    The workout Plan: (Training time is 6AM)
    -Monday: Lower ME
    -Wednesday: Upper ME
    -Friday: Lower DE
    -Saturday: Upper DE

    Diet: 140-150g protein , 200-300g carbs (workout days) and 60-70g fats

    Supplemention:
    -For now I am on a stim break, no EC, no Pre-workouts but the FinaFlex Beta Test
    -Omega-3's (2-4g of EPA/DHA a day)
    -4 caps SNS Cissus-XT for my joints
    -Occassionally I'll use Caffeine Free Focus-XT ONLY for my Late night classes and NOT as Pre-workout unless allowed by Snag, ScottyDoc or DreamWeaver, or any other Finaflex Staff.

    Grading will be done as such:

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    FYI for all you BETA TESTERS... Even though our product will normally come with 120 caps lasting 30 days, our beta testers will receive 60 caps to be taken for 15 days as a trial run and will rate the product as follows: 1 out of 5, with 5 being the highest score possible...

    1) Vascularity/Pump (1-5)
    2) Muscle Endurance/Stamina (1-5)
    3) Muscle Strength (1-5)
    4) Overall Physical Performance (1-5)
    5) Overall Opinion of Product (1-5)
    ... How much do you like this product???
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    Now let's see for today's workout it was Lower Body DE (Squat) and let's bring it up now with some numbers and pictures to let them talk for themselves.

    Warm Up was around 5 minutes on the Bike.

    Squat DE (Box Squat):

    (Warm up)
    -45x5
    -45x5

    Sets:
    -135x3
    -135x3
    -135x3
    -135x3
    -135x3
    -135x3
    -135x3

    Rest in between sets was around 40-60 secs, not letting it go over a minute at all. DE for me is mostly about speed work keeping the proper form and getting down to business with the bar. I perform it with 50-60% 1RM weight on the bar and last week my ME squat went up to 265 so I went up from a 125 DE to 135.

    Hip/Hamstring Assistance: Suspended Good Mornings (these are usually my favorite ones, might throw up a video of them later)

    -115x8
    -135x8
    -135x8
    -135x8
    -135x8
    -155x6

    Knee Extention Exercice: Leg Press, full ROM, I like a 4-1-1 tempo. The way I count it is 4 on the way down, dead stop and then a explosive 1 second up.

    -2 plates x 12
    -2 plates x 12
    -2 plates and a quarter x 12
    -2 plates and a quarter x 12

    Ab movement 1:
    Standing Cable Crunches
    -80x20
    -80x20
    -80x20
    -100x15 DS 60x20

    Ab Movement 2:
    Standing Oblique Crunches (Reps for each side)
    -45x10
    -45x10
    -55x10
    -55x10

    Now pics were taken when I was done with my ab movements and also when I was out of the gym and at home (so around 8:45am), I had dosed the 4 caps around 5:35~am. What amazed me the most was what I had even an upper body pump and major vascularity signs even when I worked out all my lower body today.

    Note: The greatest pump I did feel (and it surprised me as I didn't expect it to work upon the first day at all..) .was when I did the Leg Presses, where my quads were so pumped and my calf veins popping out so much that I actually considered...CONSIDERED...shav ing my legs for once just to enjoy the sight haha.


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    oooo 1st!

    as for shaving the legs: you are not truly a man, until you lose the fur and show smooth skin
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    This will be good.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    oooo 1st!

    as for shaving the legs: you are not truly a man, until you lose the fur and show smooth skin
    Here's the man of the hour! And yeah haha I might just have to trim the legs!

    Quote Originally Posted by PREracing25 View Post
    This will be good.
    It started up nicely, didn't expect my shoulders and scapula to be so pumped even after I was done working out!
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    I had no doubt in my mind that finaflex would not produce something great.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216136-finaflex-1-andro.htmlCurrent log belowhttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/226014-getting-bigger-leaner.html#post3893348
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    In bud! I can't wait to try this product hint hint snags!! ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    In bud! I can't wait to try this product hint hint snags!! ;-)
    ahaa
    eye sea ewe, dood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    yeah haha I might just have to trim the legs!!
    due eat

    eagerly looking forward to your feedback on this my friend..top-notch detail and intuitive intelligence shine
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    Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    In bud! I can't wait to try this product hint hint snags!! ;-)

    Bean's 1st contest prep (Lecheek last 8 weeks)
    Welcome bro! Snags is a charismatic and amicable soul...he might just try to hook you up with it if you butter him up !
    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    due eat

    eagerly looking forward to your feedback on this my friend..top-notch detail and intuitive intelligence shine
    Looking forward to tomorrow's workout honestly. I need to test it out with HIIT and Upper Body exercises and that's tomorrow for me. It might give me a hint of what's in it !
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    Ok Let's start up with the numbers Snag Style so I can make it easier and more objective to grade in the end.

    -1 is lowest, meaning no effect whatsoever AND actually feeling it being counterproductive.
    -2 is simply no positive effect in any sense.
    -3 means no hindering in the workout and general sense of enhancing related with the aspect it's being graded.
    -4 definite increase/liking in this aspect.
    -5 "This must have Snag-Juice or Old-Fugger-Spiked-Sauce in here to make me feel this good!

    Grading of 02/08

    1) Vascularity/Pump (1-5) 5
    It is odd for me to be so gracious and really just go all out 5 stars on something, specially being the first day and knowing it COULD be placebo...but I cannot understand these veins in my shoulders, the veins in my obliques and V cut and how it happened with such low volume and on a lower body DE day (thus less upper body interaction to trigger such effects)

    2) Muscle Endurance/Stamina (1-5) 2
    Didn't feel increase in endurance TODAY only, it is only the first day. However it did not hinder me at all and my workout was pleasurable.

    3) Muscle Strength (1-5) 3.5
    Strength was there completely, and I cut out my usual Pre-Workout C0cktail (usually it's SNS COP , Cit Mal , Agmatine Sulfate and sometimes APS Creatine Nitrate). That being said I will only be dosing Pump Maxx Beta for now, and without my usual concoction I still feel confident and a bit enhanced, again it could be excitement and the fact that I was motivated from the vascularity, but it is what it is, good.

    4) Overall Physical Performance (1-5) 3
    Again too soon to tell, but it did not hinder me at all and I did feel that certain motivational and quasi-enhanced factor

    5) Overall Opinion of Product (1-5) 4.5
    Honestly I am amazed for the product given that I am not at sub 10% BF and I still noticed nice vascularity even in a bloated state! I was literally impressed, and the Quadriceps pump and calf veins during the leg press were indeed something to watch and look forward too again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    -5 "This must have Snag-Juice or Old-Fugger-Spiked-Sauce in here to make me feel this good!
    HAHA!

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    Upper Body DE. 5 minute Rower Warm Up.

    Speed Bench , this week no bands and no chains.

    Barx10x2

    Sets:

    115x3
    115x3
    115x3
    115x3
    115x3
    115x3
    115x2
    115x2

    Less than 1 minute Rest between sets.

    Supplemental Triceps muscle building lift: CGBP

    135x10
    135x10
    135x10
    135x15 (PR) went AMRAP on these, previous was 135x13.

    Overhead Press (strict and resetting every rep, so no momentum) / Neutral grip Dead Hang Pull Ups

    85x8 / BWx10
    85x8 / BWx10
    85x8 / BWx8
    85x10 / BWx8

    Prehab work:

    -YTWs sets of 6 Ys + 6 Ts + 6 Ws in a super set fashion. 2 sets with 5lb dumbbells.

    -2 sets of Prone Scapular/Trap shrugs (Jason made me a fan of these, specially since for me they relieve tension from my cuffs). 50x10

    -2 sets of Face pulls 70x15 , real slow negatives and a 1-2 sec contraction.



    Grading of 02/09

    1) Vascularity/Pump (1-5) 5
    Again this time I was impressed by the pumps I was getting on my triceps after CGBP and also by the shoulder pumps I was still sporting outside of the gym.

    2) Muscle Endurance/Stamina (1-5) 4
    I did feel it helping in my AMRAP set of CGBP and I would give it a 5, but the pump is so massive it takes a while to recover before diving into another set.

    3) Muscle Strength (1-5) 4
    Helped keep up the super set of OHP and Pull ups, specially without feeling loss in strength or tightness in the lats.

    4) Overall Physical Performance (1-5) 3
    Felt good consistent effects from yesterday, it helps and my guess is that it gets better over time.

    5) Overall Opinion of Product (1-5) 4.5
    Not shabby at all, specially since it helped keep the pump/tightness in the scapula and traps during the brutal DE session. I just upped the weight on them since I did get a 205x1 paused bench so decided to start overloading my DE a bit more, previous was 105lbs so I upped the stakes by 10lbs.

    Pics come in the next post, you guys can decide how good it is! Specially since I don't work for physique and it still shows some very nice vascularity and vasodilation. My main liking of this is that the recovery between sets leads me to believe it has some lactic acid buffering ingredient, and the pumps (being so prone to happening) and increased in-set endurance (referring to AMRAP set) lead me to believe it poses NO optimization or exogenous NO to my system. I would confirm this with HIIT but I was just called to go to a relatives house for some personal matters and thus HIIT will have to be later tonight or tomorrow morning :/. For now pics speak for themselves, specially the back poses since they were right when I got home to take a shower and leave.

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    Pics were taken at the gym right after the CGBP sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Less than 1 minute Rest between sets.
    lovin that pace!
    1) Vascularity/Pump (1-5) 5
    Again this time I was impressed by the pumps I was getting on my triceps after CGBP and also by the shoulder pumps I was still sporting outside of the gym.

    2) Muscle Endurance/Stamina (1-5) 4
    I did feel it helping in my AMRAP set of CGBP and I would give it a 5, but the pump is so massive it takes a while to recover before diving into another set.

    3) Muscle Strength (1-5) 4
    Helped keep up the super set of OHP and Pull ups, specially without feeling loss in strength or tightness in the lats.

    4) Overall Physical Performance (1-5) 3
    Felt good consistent effects from yesterday, it helps and my guess is that it gets better over time.

    5) Overall Opinion of Product (1-5) 4.5
    Not shabby at all, specially since it helped keep the pump/tightness in the scapula and traps during the brutal DE session. I just upped the weight on them since I did get a 205x1 paused bench so decided to start overloading my DE a bit more, previous was 105lbs so I upped the stakes by 10lbs.
    very nice..and, agreed on the portions i boldened/underlined - and i may agree with your guess

    Pics come in the next post, you guys can decide how good it is!
    pics are great, that before & after of the back is impressive indeed
    great tri pump and development my friend!

    My main liking of this is that the recovery between sets leads me to believe it has some lactic acid buffering ingredient, and the pumps (being so prone to happening) and increased in-set endurance (referring to AMRAP set) lead me to believe it poses NO optimization or exogenous NO to my system. I would confirm this with HIIT but I was just called to go to a relatives house for some personal matters and thus HIIT will have to be later tonight or tomorrow morning :/.
    nicely described, extremely detailed..i cannot confirm nor deny what you say - all i can tell you is keep your feedback coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    lovin that pace!
    very nice..and, agreed on the portions i boldened/underlined - and i may agree with your guess


    pics are great, that before & after of the back is impressive indeed
    great tri pump and development my friend!


    nicely described, extremely detailed..i cannot confirm nor deny what you say - all i can tell you is keep your feedback coming!
    Psh now you are just making me blush with the development comment ! Also, you are such a classified tease!

    Pace is more than required to keep the work to rest ratio specially when the load is smaller, even when using compensatory acceleration, one needs to push oneself to the limit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Welcome bro! Snags is a charismatic and amicable soul...he might just try to hook you up with it if you butter him up !

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    If you start with the butter up he may expect you to start the leg shaving
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post
    I want to butter up and shave your legs my lord!
    Well ain't that nice of you! Perhaps I might just let you, I have never done it before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Welcome bro! I hope Snags hooks me up with the butter !
    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Well ain't that nice of him! Perhaps I might just let him, I have never done it before!
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    Snags, it says that it's 4 caps on a rest day too. Do you want me to dose it on Rest days too? Or just on Workout days? I can do either, just let me know so I dose it today or not!
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    yes take it every day for the beta test, empty stomach as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yes take it every day for the beta test, empty stomach as well
    And good thing you told me on an empty stomach haha, still on an empty stomach and about to dose it !
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    everytime i peek my head in here something, uh, new is happening..


    cesar - fyi in discussing things this morning with the creators, it has come to my attention that MAX PUMP can be taken either with or w/o food, per your preference, and based on individual reactions

    majority have been just fine dosing empty stomach, but a few have had varied stressed stomach responses doing so..

    feel free to dose per your preference going forward, and make note of such please, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
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    The package also arrived with a pair of Head Phones from FinaFlex (which Is now my second pair since I bought the package with BCAA/SAA ).

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    Holy Fug! did this ever take off!! good looking log. Old fugger sauce what's in that secrets sauce anyway ....
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    Upper Body ME. Pulling day. Every 3-4th week I'll do a pull week for ME and then back to squats. It was conventional deadlift this week, my left flexor is still crying in pain every time I attempt sumo pulls...

    1 mile bike warmup (around 5 mins)

    Sets:
    135x5
    135x5
    185x5
    225x3
    245x3
    265x3
    285x3
    305x3 (PR)
    325x1 (PR)
    345x1 got it but hitched a lot, so I won't count it as a PR for now.

    I am impressed how much my conventional deadlift went up honestly, haven't done it since the end of october and I guess my squat built it up. Soon it will beat my Sumo max which is also 345, and this one felt a LOT cleaner than sumo...go figure huh?

    325x1 pull video: (would upload the 345 but form is really bad haha)




    Supplemental lift: Stiff Legged deadlift

    185x8
    225x8
    225x8
    225x8
    225x8

    Knee extension: Lunges

    95x15x4 focused on a slow tempo and explosive outcome...1 minute rest between sets.

    Ab movements: (less than 1 minute rest between sets)
    Incline Explosive Crunches (plate behind the head) + Dumbbell standing side crunches

    BW+10x12 / 45x10 (each side)
    BW+10x12 / 45x10
    BW+10x12 / 45x10
    BW+10x12 / 45x10

    Grading of 02/11

    1) Vascularity/Pump (1-5) 3
    I expected more out of it today, specially with such high reps and controlled tempo on the lunges, but I did not have a lot of carbs yesterday and trained on an empty stomach (as usual). Maybe I just need to keep my carb intake higher, I cannot completely blame it on the product due to yesterdays diet modification.

    2) Muscle Endurance/Stamina (1-5) 3.5
    Helped a lot in recovering in between the lunges and ab sets, though I must admit I thought it would help more as in previous workouts. Agai my nutrition wasn't perfect yesterday, and I probably needed to down more than just 16oz of water prior to the workout .

    3) Muscle Strength (1-5) 4
    I want to rate it 5, due to my 1RM on conventional jumping 50lbs with proper form, and 70lbs with nasty form (not making these up, check previous logs) in this time span, but I do know I have focused a lot on my lower body ME days and making up for my week link (squat). I would be unfair to the product if I didn't rate it 4/5 because it did help with the lift a lot, even in the motivational aspect, but the pump I had going (albeit not as huge as it was previous workouts) on my lats and my abs, helped focus to keep my tightness on the lift.

    4) Overall Physical Performance (1-5) 4
    Helped a lot in the recovery in between sets of Abs and for the unilateral thigh work.

    5) Overall Opinion of Product (1-5) 4.5
    Still amazed, specially because it's not all about the pump with it, but also the performance and endurance during the workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Holy Fug! did this ever take off!! good looking log. Old fugger sauce what's in that secrets sauce anyway ....
    The mythical powers of the Fuggersaurus that makes you, Al, Snag and Chris be so swole, strong and built haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Holy Fug! did this ever take off!! good looking log. Old fugger sauce what's in that secrets sauce anyway ....
    the sauce has more twist than an egyptian pyramid and manic mondays are to busy for me to go into it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    5) Overall Opinion of Product (1-5) 4.5
    Still amazed, specially because it's not all about the pump with it, but also the performance and endurance during the workout.
    nice lift my man, clean & controlled that negative like nobody's business!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    nice lift my man, clean & controlled that negative like nobody's business!
    Thanks a lot bro! Means a lot :3!!
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