Bean's 1st contest prep (Lecheek last 8 weeks)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post

    Symmetry looks great man. just focus on size this offseason.
    Heavy compound movements
    Yeah, he easily had the best symmetry. The guys who placed were bigger (looked like borderline bodybuilders).


  2. Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post

    Yeah, he easily had the best symmetry. The guys who placed were bigger (looked like borderline bodybuilders).
    Can't see his legs but squatting and pulling heavy will cause them to blow up as well as put mass on his upper body
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  3. Seems like perhaps you started leaning protocol too soon. You were much fuller 2 months ago
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Seems like perhaps you started leaning protocol too soon. You were much fuller 2 months ago
    I honestly just think he could have eaten more carbs, he looks a little flat.

    He looks great, i'm not being negative. Just saying he could have eaten more carbs.

    And just my opinion I think for physique you shouldn't worry about "spilling over" because they're not looking for the crisp dry lines as much as they do in BB

  5. Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post

    I honestly just think he could have eaten more carbs, he looks a little flat.

    He looks great, i'm not being negative. Just saying he could have eaten more carbs.
    I bet a few days after the show he filled out even more and looked even better.

    Again i'm not trying to be negative I think bean looked great just saying I've experienced this before

    And just my opinion I think for physique you shouldn't worry about "spilling over" because they're not looking for the crisp dry lines as much as they do in BB
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    All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post

    edit
    Really? I'm being clear i'm not being negative. Dude looks great, was much bigger than I've ever been on stage. All i'm saying is he needed more carbs.

    I tell you what bro I'll edit the post just for you.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    Really? I'm being clear i'm not being negative. Dude looks great, was much bigger than I've ever been on stage. All i'm saying is he needed more carbs.

    I tell you what bro I'll delete the whole post just for you.
    No sorry you misunderstood i was replying or attempting too from my phone LOL it just wasnt working so i deleted my post til i could get to a computer. I agree with you he looked great but could have been a lil fuller. I had 300c before prejudging and 500 the day before no water or sodium manipulation. Just if your prep is good you dont need as much peak week torture IMO
    All posts by mattys4 are the result of a very creative imagination and should not be considered advice nor taken seriously

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post

    No sorry you misunderstood i was replying or attempting too from my phone LOL it just wasnt working so i deleted my post til i could get to a computer. I agree with you he looked great but could have been a lil fuller. I had 300c before prejudging and 500 the day before no water or sodium manipulation. Just if your prep is good you dont need as much peak week torture IMO
    Lol oh ok I went and edited it already.

    And I agree man

  9. Bean, you're my hero! I wish I had the balls to do what you did bro! A+ physique my friend!

  10. Def shredded bro good night How does everyone get so damn cut but Hulk!!
    OG Avenger-HULK SMASHING TIME!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by 804 View Post
    Bean, you're my hero! I wish I had the balls to do what you did bro! A+ physique my friend!
    Agree with this whole statement dude
    Purus labs Rep
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  12. Haha I'm decades away from even thinking of competing. Good for you man, first of many!

  13. Nice frame to work with and good solid base to build from. Looking well conditioned bean. I am sure you picked up enough experience there to destroy the next contest.
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  14. Alright sorry for lack of updates been down a bit this week. Turns out I should've listened more but my three days of free eating went horribly wrong. I know everybody is diff but I want to share this to anyone competing for the first time or thinking about it.

    Sat, sun and Monday I ate whatever I wanted, I literally ate all day. I didn't think 2-3 days would make a huge diff, well boy was I wrong. I woke up mon a bit bloated and watery no big deal I thought and continued on eating. Well ties morning I woke up and my wife didn't even recognize me. Neither did I. I didn't think it was possible to hold this amount of water.

    I weighed in say am b4 show at 180-182 can't recall exactly by tues I was up to 208. Problem was I cleaned it up tues and have been on track since but the water wouldn't budge not even a little. My arms legs were so tight they hurt to bend. Honestly it freaked me the fock out. Talked to my coach who said he's never seen someone react this way who wasn't on a bunch of drugs. Considering he didn't put me on a diuretic and overall he said the approach we took was fairly mild considering so he was worried and told me to jump on Benadryl ASAP and if that didn't help by the end of weds to go to the hospital. It helped a bit but not much . My doc gave me lasix which I started today and very slowly it's coming off. The reason they put me on lasix is my BP was sky high from holding all that water for so long. I'm pretty sure I'm allergic to gluten now or not far off. Being sodium depleted and dehydrated then just consuming a bunch of both I believe my body just took it all in and was hanging onto it for dear life. This has given me a new respect for eating healthy and clean and has motivated me to stay under 12-13 % in the off season so my preps can be shorter and so I don't feel so deprived after a show.

    My point is this, give yourself a few meals 24 hours after then jump right back on the clean wagon or you could end up like me. I had my best physique ever not 5 days ago and although it may be temporary, it's gone for now. If post pics but I'm too embarrassed. I feel like **** and its taken every ounce of discipline to make myself hit the gym the last few days. My motivation is back and I'm determined to get back ASAP. Sorry for the downer but I want people to learn from my mistakes. If any of you competitors have similar stories please share with me.
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  15. Wow dude so sorry to hear that. Hopefully everything starts lookin up soon
    Purus labs Rep
    doin it mountain dog style in here come along for the shred fest-http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/229302-danbs-mountain-dog.html

  16. Wow man, that sounds rough. If you get a chance post those pics. I'm interested to see what 20+ lbs in 3 days looks like. Hope everything settles though. Good luck

  17. I like the new plan better. Way easier on the body and metabolism. Check this shyt out if you haven't already>>> http://www.biolayne.com/videos/

    When's the new log going up buddy?
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  18. Actually I didn't take pics as I was in shock lol. I woke up this am looking a lot better.

    Palm fist I've watched all his videos and love layne norton. I wish I could pick his brain about prep as mentions how he doesn't manipulate water or sodium during peak week. Thanks for posting it bud. I'm hopefully going to do a final review and go over all these shops I was on and how I liked them then ill be starting a long term thread in the training section and ill be starting my Xgels log next week in this section. Ill throw links up when I get them started.
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  19. Glad you're alright bro!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Alright sorry for lack of updates been down a bit this week. Turns out I should've listened more but my three days of free eating went horribly wrong. I know everybody is diff but I want to share this to anyone competing for the first time or thinking about it.

    Sat, sun and Monday I ate whatever I wanted, I literally ate all day. I didn't think 2-3 days would make a huge diff, well boy was I wrong. I woke up mon a bit bloated and watery no big deal I thought and continued on eating. Well ties morning I woke up and my wife didn't even recognize me. Neither did I. I didn't think it was possible to hold this amount of water.

    I weighed in say am b4 show at 180-182 can't recall exactly by tues I was up to 208. Problem was I cleaned it up tues and have been on track since but the water wouldn't budge not even a little. My arms legs were so tight they hurt to bend. Honestly it freaked me the fock out. Talked to my coach who said he's never seen someone react this way who wasn't on a bunch of drugs. Considering he didn't put me on a diuretic and overall he said the approach we took was fairly mild considering so he was worried and told me to jump on Benadryl ASAP and if that didn't help by the end of weds to go to the hospital. It helped a bit but not much . My doc gave me lasix which I started today and very slowly it's coming off. The reason they put me on lasix is my BP was sky high from holding all that water for so long. I'm pretty sure I'm allergic to gluten now or not far off. Being sodium depleted and dehydrated then just consuming a bunch of both I believe my body just took it all in and was hanging onto it for dear life. This has given me a new respect for eating healthy and clean and has motivated me to stay under 12-13 % in the off season so my preps can be shorter and so I don't feel so deprived after a show.

    My point is this, give yourself a few meals 24 hours after then jump right back on the clean wagon or you could end up like me. I had my best physique ever not 5 days ago and although it may be temporary, it's gone for now. If post pics but I'm too embarrassed. I feel like **** and its taken every ounce of discipline to make myself hit the gym the last few days. My motivation is back and I'm determined to get back ASAP. Sorry for the downer but I want people to learn from my mistakes. If any of you competitors have similar stories please share with me.
    Hey buddy, don't worry.
    I went thru the same thing after my first show.
    Like you said, your body is in extreme rebound mode.

    Your body is like a sponge right now. You'll level back out it'll just take a week or two.

    If you clean it up, get back on your diet, start hitting the weights and cardio again, and up your water to 1.5-2 gallons you'll be back down maybe ten pounds in a week.

    I did the same thing my first prep. So bloated I looked completely different..
    It was crazy going from that high of looking the best you've ever had to the point of having cankles.

    I also am drug free but I didn't have Any bp problems.

  21. Bean, you looked great, I agree with everyone here. You were plenty lean but as already said a tad flat. Now this bullsh!t of having your ass handed to you. That is fugging ridiculous. You stood on stage with the top .001% of physiques around, and you came in in the middle of the pack. Sounds like you were in damn good company. I will take the middle of the top .001% any day over #1 with a bunch of average Joes. You have to remember that like you everyone else there had their best physique some of them had probably been in many shows. Some were probably judge favorites. That is just the way it is. However now you are on their radar, and stage presence will be amplified next time by a new found confidence and calm on stage.

    I know how easy it is to beat yourself up over this stuff, but here in a bit after the sting goes away the appreciation for the experience, the entire process will sink in. When it does you will be more proud of yourself for sustaining the discipline and dedication through your entire prep. YOu have tested your metal and found that you were forged into a stronger being when the heat and pressure is applied. Many people go through life never experiencing a challenge like you did. Not only that but even more people try and failed. You succeeded and did so with both class and style.

    As far as a tested show, if you have your prescription for your TRT and they are not raising your test up over the high end of what is considered normal then you can compete in that show. It is a medical condition and being treated, they only frown on that when you are being enhanced above what is considered normal. At least the shows I have looked at state that pretty clearly.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    mentions how he doesn't manipulate water or sodium during peak week.
    well sure layne does, just not to the extent that most do..he cuts back on water (just not entirely, and only for a short time) and he eliminates added salt and salt-containing foods..there is no BIG carb load, just gentle sensible carb uptake as water is decreased

    and unless you are using srs pharma, or you are not lean enuff to begin with and have to try to pull out some tricks, it is simply the best way to go..even the slightest tweak to get a "leg up" so to speak, can throw things off balance
    took me a couple times to figure that out myself: my first show, my coach had me spinning and twisting so much with all these adjustments and tweaks in final week..i looked good, but now that i'm a lil smarter I realize he just got lucky. literally - I could do the exact same things again today, and it would be a miracle if I looked halfway as good as I did then

    give yourself enuff time to diet properly, be ready 2 weeks outs, and guide things in with small adjustments as needed
    it seems ridiculous that it should be so easy, but it really is just that

  23. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Bean, you looked great, I agree with everyone here. You were plenty lean but as already said a tad flat. Now this bullsh!t of having your ass handed to you. That is fugging ridiculous. You stood on stage with the top .001% of physiques around, and you came in in the middle of the pack. Sounds like you were in damn good company. I will take the middle of the top .001% any day over #1 with a bunch of average Joes. You have to remember that like you everyone else there had their best physique some of them had probably been in many shows. Some were probably judge favorites. That is just the way it is. However now you are on their radar, and stage presence will be amplified next time by a new found confidence and calm on stage.

    I know how easy it is to beat yourself up over this stuff, but here in a bit after the sting goes away the appreciation for the experience, the entire process will sink in. When it does you will be more proud of yourself for sustaining the discipline and dedication through your entire prep. YOu have tested your metal and found that you were forged into a stronger being when the heat and pressure is applied. Many people go through life never experiencing a challenge like you did. Not only that but even more people try and failed. You succeeded and did so with both class and style.

    As far as a tested show, if you have your prescription for your TRT and they are not raising your test up over the high end of what is considered normal then you can compete in that show. It is a medical condition and being treated, they only frown on that when you are being enhanced above what is considered normal. At least the shows I have looked at state that pretty clearly.
    Thanks bud. I'm over it now and motivated and anxious for the next one. Not sure if ill get one more in this year with my attempt in career change. Either way I learned a lot and am thankful for this experience. Currently back on track and killing it both in the kitchen and gym.

    As far as the tested shows as far as I've looked it's a no go (not that I really feel right about anyway) was more curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    well sure layne does, just not to the extent that most do..he cuts back on water (just not entirely, and only for a short time) and he eliminates added salt and salt-containing foods..there is no BIG carb load, just gentle sensible carb uptake as water is decreased

    and unless you are using srs pharma, or you are not lean enuff to begin with and have to try to pull out some tricks, it is simply the best way to go..even the slightest tweak to get a "leg up" so to speak, can throw things off balance
    took me a couple times to figure that out myself: my first show, my coach had me spinning and twisting so much with all these adjustments and tweaks in final week..i looked good, but now that i'm a lil smarter I realize he just got lucky. literally - I could do the exact same things again today, and it would be a miracle if I looked halfway as good as I did then

    give yourself enuff time to diet properly, be ready 2 weeks outs, and guide things in with small adjustments as needed
    it seems ridiculous that it should be so easy, but it really is just that
    Great info as always snags. My only gripe would be that I honestly felt if I would have been 2 weeks out at the 6-8 week mark I would have looked much better. I'm just disappointed at how flat I was never filled out till after my show when I ate a big ass burger and sweet potatoes fries :-) srs tho I tried asking him If I could eat some more simpler foods the days of and he said no that's not what I teach so it is what it is.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post

    Thanks bud. I'm over it now and motivated and anxious for the next one. Not sure if ill get one more in this year with my attempt in career change. Either way I learned a lot and am thankful for this experience. Currently back on track and killing it both in the kitchen and gym.

    As far as the tested shows as far as I've looked it's a no go (not that I really feel right about anyway) was more curious.

    Great info as always snags. My only gripe would be that I honestly felt if I would have been 2 weeks out at the 6-8 week mark I would have looked much better. I'm just disappointed at how flat I was never filled out till after my show when I ate a big ass burger and sweet potatoes fries :-) srs tho I tried asking him If I could eat some more simpler foods the days of and he said no that's not what I teach so it is what it is.
    I'm not saying I'm right he's wrong I'm just trying to learn is all. I did some practice re-feeds leading up using burgers and granola PB etc and looked awesome for almost 24 hours. We added steak and white basmati rice the night b4 (12oz and 4 cups) then it was back to fish and rice cakes all show day. I know it's a learning experience for us both but I feel I was in close enough shape all prep and that we experimented a ton so in my eyes it shoulda been done differently. I have a lot to learn so I'm happy with that show in general it was a blast and like I said can't wait for that next one. For now time to grow
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  25. Yeah water and sodium manipulation is not really needed when you are in shape and you were in shape. SOunds like you may not have introduced sodium back in in time. You need some sodium to hold the water in. Messing with electrolytes is a rough one because everything can seem like it is exactly the same but your body responds differently. If you are planning on looking into what Layne prescribes, he does a "pre-fill" earlier on in the week then just eats to maintain glycogen levels the rest of the week so he stays nice and full. He only adjusts his sodium if he is actually holding onto water otherwise why mess with something that is already squared away.

    I am a believer in the pre load, earlier on in the week keeping hydrated and stepping on the stage knowing you are not going to be flat. If you are in shape and not flat you are going to look good no matter what. However I am not sure how MattyS4 will have me do peak week. I do know we will at least have one exact replica peek week to see how my body responds. Hell If I get in shape soon enough I would like to have time for 2 of them, one as a test run and another with any improvements he thinks may help.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  26. Yeah. When I walked off the stage after the first round, I felt like I had a fever and a headache. Felt like shyt tbh. I'm curious to see what he does with you! They're doing good things over at boss body for sure!
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  27. still alive...just thought id let you know if you wtren aware lol
    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    I'm usually crying when people take naked pictures of me. Fcuking childhood.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah water and sodium manipulation is not really needed when you are in shape and you were in shape. SOunds like you may not have introduced sodium back in in time. You need some sodium to hold the water in. Messing with electrolytes is a rough one because everything can seem like it is exactly the same but your body responds differently. If you are planning on looking into what Layne prescribes, he does a "pre-fill" earlier on in the week then just eats to maintain glycogen levels the rest of the week so he stays nice and full. He only adjusts his sodium if he is actually holding onto water otherwise why mess with something that is already squared away.

    I am a believer in the pre load, earlier on in the week keeping hydrated and stepping on the stage knowing you are not going to be flat. If you are in shape and not flat you are going to look good no matter what. However I am not sure how MattyS4 will have me do peak week. I do know we will at least have one exact replica peek week to see how my body responds. Hell If I get in shape soon enough I would like to have time for 2 of them, one as a test run and another with any improvements he thinks may help.
    The guy that dialed me in had me eating extra carbs all week, basically eating high carbs Monday thru Friday with some pizza Fri night.
    I did cut water though and it worked for me. No drugs no diuretics just drinking 2gal a day the final week, cutting it out Friday evening.

    It worked like a charm

  29. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post

    I'm not saying I'm right he's wrong I'm just trying to learn is all. I did some practice re-feeds leading up using burgers and granola PB etc and looked awesome for almost 24 hours. We added steak and white basmati rice the night b4 (12oz and 4 cups) then it was back to fish and rice cakes all show day. I know it's a learning experience for us both but I feel I was in close enough shape all prep and that we experimented a ton so in my eyes it shoulda been done differently. I have a lot to learn so I'm happy with that show in general it was a blast and like I said can't wait for that next one. For now time to grow
    Also wanted to know how you're doing now bud

  30. Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post

    The guy that dialed me in had me eating extra carbs all week, basically eating high carbs Monday thru Friday with some pizza Fri night.
    I did cut water though and it worked for me. No drugs no diuretics just drinking 2gal a day the final week, cutting it out Friday evening.

    It worked like a charm
    Yeah I was at <70g/day with one high day around 175-200 a week for last two weeks or so.

    Just committed to a sept 21 national qualifier here. I just don't want to go through the same thing again.
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