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    BigMikeC HARDCORE CUT w/ EPIANDRO and 17PROANDRO (sponsored)


    Alright guys. This will be the first log on any of the prohormones from the new LG Sciences Andro Platinum Series! I'm 19 weeks out from my next show (NPC Contra Costa Championship) and need to start phasing out the bulk and start tightening up. I'll post my diet, supplements, and workouts and what ever else I can. My products should be here Wednesday but I'll go ahead and get current info and workouts going.

    My goal on this cycle is as I said earlier to tighten up. That being said I can drop weight fast if needed but then put my self at risk of loosing muscle which I DONT WANT!! So my goal is to lean up but not let my self get any lower than 230lbs. Remember I'm 19 weeks out!

    Currents

    Weight: 245lbs (give or take 5lbs through out the day)
    Height: 5'10

    Diet:

    Meal 1
    3 whole omega 3 eggs
    6 egg whites
    1 cup oatmeal

    Meal 2
    8 oz 93% ground turkey
    1 medium sweet potato

    Meal 3
    8oz Lean Ground Beef
    1tbls olive oil
    2 scoop metamucil


    Meal4 (pre workout)
    1 scoop waximaize
    2 scoops whey isolate

    Meal5 (Post workout)
    1 scoop waximaize
    2 scoops whey isolate

    Meal 6
    5 whole omega 3 eggs
    1 piece turkey bacon

    Meal 7
    2scoops whey protein isolate
    2 tablespoons natural peanut butter


    As this log continues you will see my food increase. As my metabolism increases I will have to adjust my food intake so I don't start looking stringy, flat, small, etc more than what is expected from a cut.


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    Cla 3 caps a day
    evening primrose oil 3 caps a day
    Orange Triad 3 twice a day
    Artholyze 5 caps a day ( this is a half serving because orange triad has joint support)
    Formadrol 3 caps at night
    Epic 2 shot pre workout
    Chromium every morning
    Vit D3 3000iu
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    Im guessing this log will have nothing but great things to say about the new products
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    Get some workouts up

    Saturday 12/29

    Chest (I'll only list working sets)
    Incline bench barbell 225x20, 265x15( triple drop set 315, 225,135 8 each drop)

    Decline hammer Bench (ill list plates per side)
    3plates x20, 4 plates x 17plus 3 forced, 4 plates and a quarter x 12

    Incline bench dumbbell
    105x20, 105x 18
    Cable flys low pulley
    50x20, 55x20, 60x 15, 60x15
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Im guessing this log will have nothing but great things to say about the new products
    Well there will be pictures and videos so If you don't like what I have to say the proof will be in the results.
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    Big BACK


    BAck DAy 12/30

    Close grip lat pull-downs
    220x20, 260x15, 300 x 10

    Wide grip lat pull downs
    300x 12 4 sets

    Cable rope pullovers (cable w/ high resistance)
    100x15, 100x 12, 100x12

    Lever Tbar row
    2plates and a quarter x 20, 4 plates x 15, 4plates and a quarter x 12, 5plates and a 5lber for good luck x 8 reps

    sinlge arm DB row

    115x25 each arm two sets to failure

    Shrugs
    80x25 x 3 sets


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    Hey Mike! i was wondering how long i should wait after my Trifecta stack to start another cycle of a different lg prohormone?

    I was looking at 1-androstenolone, 17-ProAndro and Epiandro...do any of them have bad estrogen effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeC View Post
    Well there will be pictures and videos so If you don't like what I have to say the proof will be in the results.
    i used to rep for lg so im not knocking your logs by any means. when reps log there own products the outcome is all the same but none the less glad the new line is out
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    Quote Originally Posted by pa88 View Post
    Hey Mike! i was wondering how long i should wait after my Trifecta stack to start another cycle of a different lg prohormone?

    I was looking at 1-androstenolone, 17-ProAndro and Epiandro...do any of them have bad estrogen effects?
    The length of time your "on" is the time I'd wait before getting on to another cycle. Epiandro and 17pro are very dry Phs with very little to none estro conversion especially now that all the new andro series phs have 35ai in them. Theyre petfect for a cut
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    Last work out of the year!

    Arms! 12/31

    Cable rope tricep pushdown superset with cable curls
    120x30, 150x20, 150x20, 150 x20 on each

    Nautilus isolateral high curl super set with Nautilus isolateral tricep extension(curls went 115x 20, 115x20 145x 12 srop set into 90 x10) superset w/ ( Tri ext went Stack x 15 x 4 sets)

    Dumbell Tricep Extention (double drop sets)
    100x20into 60x12, 115lbs x15 into 80x10,115lbs x15 into 80x10

    HAmmer curls super set w/ bicep "drags"
    (HAmmers 45x15 each arm) superset w/ ("Drags" 100x15-20) 3 rotations

    Sinlge arm cable tri pushdowns superset with reverse grip tri pushdowns
    (tri pushdowns 60x12) superset w/ (reverse grip 30lbsx30) 3 rotations



    Nothing special just a clip
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    Today was Shoulders. I'm having a couple nagging injuries ( rotator cuff and lower lumber) so I took it easier than I'd like to have.

    Delts 1/1

    Lateral raises
    35x20, 45x 15, 55X12, 60x12, 60x10
    DB isolateral front raises
    60x8, 60x8, 60x8
    Hammer military
    90x15 4 sets
    Bent over Lateral raises off reverse incline bench
    30x20 4 sets
    db shrugs
    80x20 4 sets
    Nautilus abdominal machine 120 x 30 4 sets
    myofascial release and foam rolling
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeC View Post
    The length of time your "on" is the time I'd wait before getting on to another cycle. Epiandro and 17pro are very dry Phs with very little to none estro conversion especially now that all the new andro series phs have 35ai in them. Theyre petfect for a cut
    Curious to see how this pans out for you.
    what's the biggest difference between the two compounds and what can you expect from each one solo?
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    Im expecting to get hard as fuurrrk on this cycle. Both on their own have hardening effects. So together they should work very synergistically. My main goal is to retain as much muscle as possible while dropping BF%. Don't want to drop to much weight this far out. I expect to see a lot more separation and distinction between muscles. More "shape".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeC View Post
    Im expecting to get hard as fuurrrk on this cycle. Both on their own have hardening effects. So together they should work very synergistically. My main goal is to retain as much muscle as possible while dropping BF%. Don't want to drop to much weight this far out. I expect to see a lot more separation and distinction between muscles. More "shape".
    Up in the air between the epi and 1 ad...
    But not a fan of stano which you compared the epi too.

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    Todays an off day.
    BUUTT I got my box from LG Sciences today with my cycle. EpiAndro and 17ProAndro.
    Dosing will be as follows Epiandro 1.5ml 4x a day spread 4 hours apart
    and 17ProAndro 2ml 3x a day spread 5 hours apart.
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    Knocked out some Legs today. I drank a sample pre workout that I had given to me and it made me extremely nauseous. I pushed through but it definaitly wasn't my best workout. EpiAndro 1.5 ml and 2ml 17ProAndro. Taste isn't to bad. If you ever tried MMv3 subligual tabs the taste in both products is similar to that with maybe a bit more "chemically" taste. But it wont kill ya

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    135x20,225x10,315x10, 375x10, 405x10, 375x10
    Quad extension
    185x20 4 sets
    Standing single leg curls
    100x20 each leg 4 sets
    lying leg curl 160x20 2 sets

    reverse crunches 20 2 sets
    nautilus crunch machine 45x 20 x 2
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    I started taking supps, back in the late '80s... The taste of ANYTHING these days will still be waaaaaay better, than what I had back then... *LOL* But, yeah, very familiar with the SL MMv3 tabs and "taste"...
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    At least the supps in the 80's didn't have al the laws and restrictions! You could basically buy gear from *** back then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeC View Post
    At least the supps in the 80's didn't have al the laws and restrictions! You could basically buy gear from *** back then!
    I miss some of those...
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    Today was a great workout. Felt tighter today, It's probably not the ph's kicking in yet probably my diet and cardio.

    1/4
    Calves, Abs, Chest

    Calve raises
    150x 30 5 sets
    Cable crunches
    120x30 4 sets
    Pec fly Machine
    100x15 3 sets

    incline db flat bench
    90x15, 120x 12, 120x12

    Flat Barbell Bench
    225 x 20, 220x20, 225x 15, 275x12, 275x12, 225x12

    Cable high pully presses
    120x15-20 x 4 sets

    Cable low pully fly
    55x20 x 3 sets

    Db Shrug (Variatiion) Squeeze chest together at simialar to wide gripe dip)
    70x20 3 sets

    I'll try and get some vids and pics up this weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeC View Post
    Today was a great workout. Felt tighter today, It's probably not the ph's kicking in yet probably my diet and cardio.

    1/4
    Calves, Abs, Chest

    Calve raises
    150x 30 5 sets
    Cable crunches
    120x30 4 sets
    Pec fly Machine
    100x15 3 sets

    incline db flat bench
    90x15, 120x 12, 120x12

    Flat Barbell Bench
    225 x 20, 220x20, 225x 15, 275x12, 275x12, 225x12

    Cable high pully presses
    120x15-20 x 4 sets

    Cable low pully fly
    55x20 x 3 sets

    Db Shrug (Variatiion) Squeeze chest together at simialar to wide gripe dip)
    70x20 3 sets

    I'll try and get some vids and pics up this weekend!
    Can't trump diet and the cardio.

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    Alright starting to get a little more vascular. Sure the Epi Andro/ 17ProAndro are jsut barely kicking in but I'm def noticing some vascularity. I was out of town yesterday but I had a great workout shoulder workout.

    So I'll post yesterdays and todays workout today

    Shoulder 1/5

    Lateral raise
    35x20, 45x20, 55x15, 60x 12 ( felt strong on these)
    Front Raises (isolateral)
    35x 15, 45x 15, 55x12
    Tried DB press but my shoulder has been giving propblems so I switched to-
    Hammer Press
    2platesx15, 3platesx 15, 3plates+ quarter x 12, 4 platesx 12 triple drop back down 10, 10
    Reverse Pec Deck
    135x20, 135x 20, 135x20
    Machine lateral raises
    120x 15 4 sets supersets w/
    Machine Military press
    160x 15 4 sets
    High back row (rear delts)
    160 x 15 3 sets
    Db lateral raises
    35x 15 3 sets
    Bent Over lateral rasies
    30x20 4 sets
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    Im lagging on getting pics and more vids up but tommarow I will for SURE!!

    My buddy owns a powerlifting gym so every sunday the wife and I train there for some variety and heavier workouts

    BIG BACK DAY 1/6

    Cable lat pushdowns ( its like a DB pullover) This gyms cable have crazy resistance, normal gym I can do the whole stack here 100lbs!!
    90x20, 100x15, 100x15, 100x12
    Machine Lat pulldown
    2plates X 20, 3plates X 20, 4plates X 12, 4plates and a quarter x 10+ 3 forced reps ( no swing, tight form)
    Bent Over Barbell Row
    225x 15, 275X 15, 315X 12, 315x 12
    DB Row
    150x8, 115X 15
    DB Shrugs (variation slightly bent over to target more rhomboids and lower traps)
    115x15 x 3 sets
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    Alrght so a buddy gave me a bottle of hemavol so I tried this. 1 shot of Epic with 1 scoop of hemavol preworkout. The pumps were great! Both products have simialar ingredients and worked well together. Who doesn't love a ton of gylcerol and agmatine before arm day!

    Another side note before we get into the nitty gritty. I'm 18 weeks out and haven't done any cheats yet since I started dieting. So I decided last night after I got all my meals in I'd have a planned cheat. Took my lady to the movies and killed some popcorn, Fat free froyo and any other carbs I could get my ands on...

    So as you could imagine glycogen levels were maxed out for todays arm session

    Here's how it went down.

    Arms 1/7

    21's (7low, 7 high, 7 ful range of motion)
    95lbs x 4 sets
    Seated onearm c0oncetration curls
    35lbsx12 4 sets
    Standing Hammer curls ( 5 reps the alternate sides)
    50lbs x15(eachside) 5 sets
    Seated Preacher curl machine
    120lbsx8+2, 100x12, 100x12, 100x10
    CAble tricep Ext
    150(Stack) x 20-25 4 sets
    Skullcrushers ( on an incline bench) w/ close grip bench burnout after each set
    95lbsx15 x 4 sets
    Dips
    15 reps 3 sets

    Arms were fried. Feeling harder. Noticing more vascularity. EpiAndro and 17ProAndro are starting to kick in at this point

    Will post a video with my dreaded BEFORE PICS!! Stay tuned
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    Nobody likes posting there before pics... But here we go... Keep following me guys to see me go from off season FAT to precontest LEAN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeC View Post
    Alrght so a buddy gave me a bottle of hemavol so I tried this. 1 shot of Epic with 1 scoop of hemavol preworkout. The pumps were great! Both products have simialar ingredients and worked well together. Who doesn't love a ton of gylcerol and agmatine before arm day!

    Another side note before we get into the nitty gritty. I'm 18 weeks out and haven't done any cheats yet since I started dieting. So I decided last night after I got all my meals in I'd have a planned cheat. Took my lady to the movies and killed some popcorn, Fat free froyo and any other carbs I could get my ands on...

    So as you could imagine glycogen levels were maxed out for todays arm session

    Here's how it went down.

    Arms 1/7

    21's (7low, 7 high, 7 ful range of motion)
    95lbs x 4 sets
    Seated onearm c0oncetration curls
    35lbsx12 4 sets
    Standing Hammer curls ( 5 reps the alternate sides)
    50lbs x15(eachside) 5 sets
    Seated Preacher curl machine
    120lbsx8+2, 100x12, 100x12, 100x10
    CAble tricep Ext
    150(Stack) x 20-25 4 sets
    Skullcrushers ( on an incline bench) w/ close grip bench burnout after each set
    95lbsx15 x 4 sets
    Dips
    15 reps 3 sets

    Arms were fried. Feeling harder. Noticing more vascularity. EpiAndro and 17ProAndro are starting to kick in at this point

    Will post a video with my dreaded BEFORE PICS!! Stay tuned
    That has to be light weight too you big Mike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    That has to be light weight too you big Mike?

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    Yea arms I keep pretty light. Reps and volume seem to be the best approach for my body. I get enough of the heavy stimulus from heavy chest or back workouts. Bent over rows with 315lbs will def thicken your biceps as well as your back you now what I mean? My problem is I have a longer bicep so It's hard for my to have a lot of shap i.e "peaks". So I tend to attack arms with shaping movements.
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    Alright slammed breakfast (homemade protien bar) and 2 scoops whey isolate
    1.5 EpiAndro and 2ml of 17ProAndro
    1Shot of Epic and 1 scoop of Hemavol
    and I was off to grow deez wheeeellss.

    Today will be hard to translate on paper. The weight seems very light and it is. But I really squeezed and trained for the pump today. Stretching in between each set. Trying to engorge the muscle with as much blood as possible.

    Legs 1/8

    Lying leg curl. Each leg isoaterally(This is done on old school Nautilus machine where the arm is actually between your knees. Dont lie down. Push your upper body up and when you contract your hamstring rotate you heel in.
    If your not hitting failure around 15-18 your not squeezing hard enough. Weight was very light 3rd pin hole ( maybe 80lbs). 4 sets

    Single Leg standing leg curl. When you contract actually lift your whole leg back to contract your hamstring. You actually have to elan slightly on the oppiste side of the leg being trained. Rotate heel in towards your body. More of a pumping movement. You can get a full contraction when your leg is bent just below 90 degree if done correctly.
    20-25 reps what was roughly around 40ish lbs. 3 sets Hammies should be on fire by 15 if done correctly

    Lying hamsting Curl. Both legs. AS you contract your hammstring lift your quads off the pad and tighten your glutes. Get a full range of motion here. Should feel the burn at the top of te hamstring. 120x15 3 sets

    Seated Quad Extension. Rotate your toes and quads in towards top of the movement.
    140 x20 4 sets

    Hack Squat. Heels together. Towards top of platform. All the way down and 85% up. You dont want to lock out. Stay tight in the whole and make sure your keeping your quads involved.
    0lbsx20 reps, two quarters x 20, 4 quarters x 20, 4 quarters x 20, 4 quarters x 20

    Lunges on smith machine. make sure each lunge is deep and long steps. Get everything involved, glutes, quads, hammies, eveb my hip flexors were burning
    35 on each side 20 on each leg 2 sets I reached failure on each set.

    I started actually feeling hypo after this workout. Even though the weight was MUCH less than my normal lifts. The intensity was there! Pumps were crazy! Noticing some viens starting to come through on my quads. Could see some fibers twitching as I was doing quad extensions.
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    Key points so far
    *My weight is holding at 240lbs
    * My body is slowly starting to show somes "cuts"
    * Loosing my off season bloat
    * Increased vascularity
    Sides so far
    * Started getting some "BACNE"..
    This is kinda normal for me on cycle but I notice that I had a out break the alst couple days ( at least I know its working)

    Chest 1/9/2013

    Today I continued in the fashion of my last few workouts and left my EGO at the door. Trained for shape today.

    CAble Flys
    55x20, 65x20, 75x15, 90x15, 100x15
    Incline DB press
    120lbs x 12, 120lbsx10, 95x 10
    Incline Barbell
    225x 15, 245x12, 245x10
    Pec dek
    90x20 3sets
    Cable flys low pully super set with incline db flys
    75lbsx12-15 reps super sets w/ 55lbs x 12 2 rotations
    Cable fly low pully super set with cable shrug variation ( contract chest onthe negative of the movement)
    65lbs x 12 w/ Stack x 25 2 rotations

    ABs 3 sets of 30
    Seated calves 3 sets of 30

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeC View Post
    Key points so far
    *My weight is holding at 240lbs
    * My body is slowly starting to show somes "cuts"
    * Loosing my off season bloat
    * Increased vascularity
    Sides so far
    * Started getting some "BACNE"..
    This is kinda normal for me on cycle but I notice that I had a out break the alst couple days ( at least I know its working)

    Chest 1/9/2013

    Today I continued in the fashion of my last few workouts and left my EGO at the door. Trained for shape today.

    CAble Flys
    55x20, 65x20, 75x15, 90x15, 100x15
    Incline DB press
    120lbs x 12, 120lbsx10, 95x 10
    Incline Barbell
    225x 15, 245x12, 245x10
    Pec dek
    90x20 3sets
    Cable flys low pully super set with incline db flys
    75lbsx12-15 reps super sets w/ 55lbs x 12 2 rotations
    Cable fly low pully super set with cable shrug variation ( contract chest onthe negative of the movement)
    65lbs x 12 w/ Stack x 25 2 rotations

    ABs 3 sets of 30
    Seated calves 3 sets of 30

    Hell of a workout bro!! I might borrow a few of those exercises for my chest day tomorrow
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    So for the average consumer it seems like, at least for the type of dosage it recommends, this would be costly. Maybe two-three bottles of each bottle for a decent cycle. Or am I reading this completely wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk0316 View Post
    So for the average consumer it seems like, at least for the type of dosage it recommends, this would be costly. Maybe two-three bottles of each bottle for a decent cycle. Or am I reading this completely wrong?
    If you take the recommended dose on each bottle then youll get a month out of each bottle. Most guys find that with our pH's 6-8 week cycles yeild the best results..
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