i thought i would just leave this here first..
Redefine Nutrition (FinaFlex) Max Pump (120 Capsules): Discount Max Pump Supplements
some interesting read on the science of the product..
Trimethylglycine aka Betaine Sets the Anabolic Stage for Increased Muscle Growth: Higher IGF-1 & Lower Cortisol - Statistically Significant, but Physiologically (Ir-)Relevant? - SuppVersity: Nutrition and Exercise Science for Everyone
off to spread the good news to other parts of the forum