Ok so after finishing these patches, I have come to the conclusion that they work better for people who are not on any other stims or coming off a heavy stim cycle.
I finished at two patches a day. I liked the way it took the edge off and if I did take a stim during the day I actually felt like I got more bang for my buck. The adhesive on the patches is really good. But for some reason this ones did not like to stay long on my arms. I found the ab placement to be the best.