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    Physique abs, maybe? Recomp & PP DermaTherm target


    On a Recomp for the next 6-8 weeks. Had trouble with dialing my abs in, in contest prep. Going to use a bottle of this PP Derma Therm Target and see how it stacks up.

    In the past I've used other topical creams/gels liquids with success, LipoBurn & 7-Keto based.

    I'm at work and will post outline when I get home.
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    Weights/Cardio

    DC training: Mon/Wed/Fri
    Afternoons Cardio: Tue/Thur 30-45min
    Fasted Cardio: Sat/Sun 45-60min


    I'm following a keto based diet. Currently I'm getting Into ketosis state. I will refeed next Friday evening (9/28) from 5-7 and them my entire feeding window on Saturday.

    I'm following IF principles, trying to see what this is all cracked up to be. After my first carb up, I'll be consuming ~50gr carbs from WMS/Sweedish oat starch (true protein MG powdered muscle)

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    sun/tue/thur: 180/<30/200
    Mon/Wed/Fri: 205/50/200
    Saturday: 180/500/<100

    Protein and diet are subject to change. I won't change from a keto for recomp, it will just be a bump of protein and leaving IF with a slight increase in cardio. I know this diet plan will work, I'm trying to IMPROVE upon it with the IF principles.

    Supplements are pretty basic, I'm logging USPLabs jack3d micro right now (which is great) Glutamine, Creatine and 1/4t yellow gold pre-workout (30min b4 my intra shake)

    Any other questions feel free to ask. I'll update 3-4days a week applying to my abs only. If there's a little extra I'll go with my chest but this is focused on getting a "men's physique" waist ;-)

    Will also update with pictures.
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    Updated outline.
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    Hey distilled,

    Did you do BB'ing then decided to switch over to physique?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    Hey distilled,

    Did you do BB'ing then decided to switch over to physique?

    -Matt
    No, I'm still bodybuilding, just seeing if I can have some physique like abs in my off season :-D
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    Won't be here til Monday :-( was hoping for Saturday, ordered with 3 day shipping last night. Knew it was a gamble but o'well.
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    Its Monday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    Its Monday!

    -Matt
    Should be waiting for me on my patio!!!!
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    Got it! I'll make first application in the morning, along with a relaxed abs pic.

    There's a lot of lotion in there. I'll do 2 pumps/day, 1 on abs, other on obliques/lower back.

    Matt, this bad boy looks like it'll last closer to 8-10 weeks ehh? I'll have to extend my recomp, which I ain't mad at. So long as DermaTherm delivers ;-)
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    Burns a little, nice. Not too bad and man this stuff dries fast! Waist was officially 31"

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    I'm in. Interested to see how well this works.
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    Wow abs are a little warm after me workout. Can only imagine how it'll be 2maro when I have a wrap on during cardio 2maro n
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    After cardio, sitting in my car, straight inferno. I see my Monday pic didn't post? I'll try again

    I'm surprised how fast this stuff dries, amazing.
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    I've changed the using of yellow gold to SPP Slin-tensity. It was on sale at NP and Matt has solid products so I'm giving it a run.

    You guys want a nice wake up, accidentally get some of this stuff on your nipples! Wow, that was an experience.

    Excited to see how my abs will look after my carb up 2maro and 1 week of DermaTherm.
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    I woke up late and didn't have time to take a shower before I went in to work today (overtime) I just washed my abs with a wash rag real quick and put on 2 pumps. I think that made the burning more intense!

    I was working like a mad man today, started sweating then took a ride to the store for a short break I almost couldn't make it, my back was on fire (it was 102 here today) I love the burn!!!! My skin isn't cold to the touch, which means good circulation, which means mobilizing fat for fuel in that area.

    At least in theory that's what it would imply.

    To those following, what would you guys like me to post updates about that I'm not? It's a topical product so it's a little tougher than others. I do plan on measurements and pictures every Monday (the X-week mark).
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    I would not use the stomach quads seems to be less painful and more comfortable imho and I do not think it has a targeted approach
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugardaddy69
    I would not use the stomach quads seems to be less painful and more comfortable imho and I do not think it has a targeted approach
    Well, the chance that it does my quads are already yoked so that's no fun
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    Sorry no pictures or measurements today. It was an awful day, got called into work early, missed a few meals, didn't get to apply morning DermaTherm.

    Tomorrow will be a better day. I'll take pictures and measurements, pants feel the same, we'll see
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    Sounds like you a very busy and burning a ton of calories.....this stuff should shine through during caloric restriction.

    What is your nutritional approach here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    Sounds like you a very busy and burning a ton of calories.....this stuff should shine through during caloric restriction.

    What is your nutritional approach here?

    -Matt
    Carb cycling. I eat at maintenance on training days with only pre/intra carbs, below maintenance sun/tue/thur & a surplus of about 500cals on my carb up day, which is Saturday.

    Fats come mainly from eggs, red meat, olive oil, nuts & olive oil mayo.

    Carb ups are mainly buckwheat pancakes w/ maple syrup, sweet potato's, brown rice pasta, oatmeal & granola. I'll have a cheat meal which is usually Pepsi and some pizza at the end of the evening.

    But, for example; last night I was slightly under maintenance and it was a training day. I wasn't hungry, so I didn't eat my last meal n
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    I'll be doing an hour of cardio today, LISS. Maybe abs too
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    7 days of DermaTherm

    Waist Change (+/-): 0
    Weight Change (+/-): -0.5lbs

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    Nothing crazy, only week 1
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    Lets get crazy man~!

    gimme a sample of your carb grams on each of your days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    Lets get crazy man~!

    gimme a sample of your carb grams on each of your days?

    -Matt
    Mon/ Wed/Fri: 50-75gr pre/intra workout
    Sun/Tue/Thur: trace from 1/4c nuts, 3/4c cheese & broccoli & spinach
    Saturday: 500gr from buckwheat, brown rice pasta, sweet potatos, granola, maple syrup
    -topping the tank off with pizza & Pepsi :-D
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    Great workout, über vascular solid pump. Used Karbolyn intra today, a little different.

    BB Curl
    80x17RP

    DB Hammer curls
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    Leg Press Calf Raise
    225x12DC

    Lying Leg Curls
    115x23RP

    ATG squats (heels on 10lbs plate)
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    135x20

    Karbolyn tastes awesome! Had strawberry flavor. It was weird feeling though, had good vascularity & solid recovery within the 10-15sec "rest" period. But, my stomach felt bloated. Here's the kicker, it was but my abs were "full". As in my abs were more pronounced but pushed out like I was bloated. There wasnt water there?
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    50min of cardio, had to cut it 10min short to get home in time for the news, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Well, the chance that it does my quads are already yoked so that's no fun
    dude stomach gave a burn that disturbed workouts think about it try but I did and did not get used to it
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    do hiit hill climbers or burpees if time is short
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugardaddy69
    do hiit hill climbers or burpees if time is short
    Good lord, burpees lol.

    It burns but not uncomfortable.

    I'm going to add in fasted cardio, it wakes me up and I don't feel worthless in the morning. Only going to I prove body comp, just a little curious about application and having it be dry. Just let it be and add some more after cardio (after my shower)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
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    Good to have ya!

    I also want to note, I cut out lactose this week. I was eating a lot of cheese, this may be adding to my waist not really budging in measurement.

    I don't have any shakes either (protein) or gluten. I feel great so far, hope I can keep my carb up also, lactose & gluten free!
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    Apply the DermaTherm before bed --- as long as your room is cool it should not heat up and disrupt you. In fact, this is the way I personally use it and it just makes sense to me,

    While sleeping your heart rate is a oxidating/fat burning pace --- the gel will penetrate and liberate while sleeping and by the time you wake up for fasted cardio --- you are in an ideal situation to use fat as your primary energy substrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
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    Apply the DermaTherm before bed --- as long as your room is cool it should not heat up and disrupt you. In fact, this is the way I personally use it and it just makes sense to me,

    While sleeping your heart rate is a oxidating/fat burning pace --- the gel will penetrate and liberate while sleeping and by the time you wake up for fasted cardio --- you are in an ideal situation to use fat as your primary energy substrate.

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    Thanks Matt, I did that Saturday night. Just didn't do cardio sun morning. Tigers were on!!!!
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    Workout B2

    Seated DB curls
    40x21RP

    Rev Grip EZ curls
    75x11SS

    Hack calf raise
    135x12DC

    ISO-Leg curl
    50x25RP

    Smith Front squat
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    Puuuuuke! Well almost, lot of dry heaves though.
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    Week 2

    Weight (+/-): (+1)
    Waist (+/-): (-.25)


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    30min LISS cardio this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    DW,'

    Apply the DermaTherm before bed --- as long as your room is cool it should not heat up and disrupt you. In fact, this is the way I personally use it and it just makes sense to me,

    While sleeping your heart rate is a oxidating/fat burning pace --- the gel will penetrate and liberate while sleeping and by the time you wake up for fasted cardio --- you are in an ideal situation to use fat as your primary energy substrate.

    -Matt
    Certainly makes sense

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    Keep trucking man....

    I think by week 4 there should be a nice progression....also harder to see actual results while its in use due to Yohimbine HCLs temporary water retentive effects...

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    Moooore cardio this morning, I enjoy am cardio now. During prep, I hated it. Wtf?!?!? Lol
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