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  1. Ok, I woke up this morning around 8 went to the gym fasted. Did 30 min of incline walking in the cardio theatre. Man did they have a horrible movie for it being a cardio theatre. It was the movie "Hop"

    First thing I noticed was at about 10 min in I felt a little burn on my lower back and abs. It stayed till I finished an I went from cardio to abs. I have a routine I do that I work everything unweighted except obliques. On ve that's done I do three sets of 15 cable crunches. That really pu the blood there and my entire lower back and abs were on fire. It felt great. 10 hours after I could feel the burn and it was much stronger then the initial application.

    I showered about an hour after the workout.

    I then went to the gym for weight training with my partner at 5pm. We did chest and it was a new workout but it felt great. If I flex now it cramps so great workout.

    Here's the new routine:
    Flat barbell bench press close grip (hands right inline with nipples)
    20x135
    12x185
    8x205
    5x245
    5x245
    5x255
    Eccentric negatives 2 sets 3 reps 315 6-8 second holds

    Decline dumbbell press
    10,10,10

    Incline dumbbell press
    8,8,8

    Hammer Strength
    2 sets till failure
    1 set 5half way down, 5 half way up, 5 all the way

    Cable cross over
    2 sets low
    1 set front
    1 set up

    Dips till failure 3 set

    Time 55 minutes.




    So far I applied tonight when I got out of the shower and applied It was much more noticeable it heated up right away lasted for about twenty.


  2. Seems the heat is hitting you quick, it can be an awesome feeling after a good cardio session.
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  3. I was really imressed I could feel the burn so long later. I applied last night and workout tonight, I wonder if I will feel it 20 hours apport.

  4. Just cardio and abs after work last night. Stair Stepper for 25 min, 135 floors. KNocked out a little abs about half as normal I was running late so I had to rush through abs.

    I didnt feel the burn come back. But that ok since I apply at night post shower.

    PP reps what would you think about on my work days I still apply post shower and apply again about .30-45 min pre cardio and abs. 1 pump each time just covering the mid section.

    I applied last night pre bed and woke up a few times and felt the burn. Didnt bother me much, I sleep with a fan on me and usually just a sheet. I like the fact I feel it burn, whether true or not, it make me feel like its working because I feel it.

    Tonight is another cardio/abs/calves night since I work. I try to get in and get out.

  5. Wow, I drank a cup of coffee, which is rare but I am burning up where I applied the DermaTherm.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post

    PP reps what would you think about on my work days I still apply post shower and apply again about .30-45 min pre cardio and abs. 1 pump each time just covering the mid section.

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    Sounds fine to me bud


  7. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Wow, I drank a cup of coffee, which is rare but I am burning up where I applied the DermaTherm.

    Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Sounds fine to me bud
    Agreed.
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  8. Yesterday I didn't make it. Duty called. Couldn't get out of work in time to make it. Its ok it was just cardio and Abs.

    This morning I did fasted cardio, abs, and calves. Burn start while doing abs, love the feeling. Great placebo for me it like a game once it starts I try to see how long I can keep it and if I can make it more intense.

    After cardio I had a decent breakfast. Good lunch and a little too much food for my preworkout. I am at the gym now waiting ony partner. I ate about 1.5 hours ago and still fill bloated. I ate 1/2 cup of oats with 2 tablespoons nati pb a handful of raisins (maybe 1/8th cup) and a scoop of whey ISO-100. Then 6 egg whites.

    Have push/ pull arms today. Hope to get a good pump, put that food to work.

    I weighed in on an empty stomach this morning 213lbs. So I am holding good. Been fluctuating from 213 to 215 for 3 weeks now. Last measure bf% at 8.9. Don't know how accurate, but the lowest I've measure in a while.

    Time to hit the weights. Shout at ya later.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Yesterday I didn't make it. Duty called. Couldn't get out of work in time to make it. Its ok it was just cardio and Abs.This morning I did fasted cardio, abs, and calves. Burn start while doing abs, love the feeling. Great placebo for me it like a game once it starts I try to see how long I can keep it and if I can make it more intense. After cardio I had a decent breakfast. Good lunch and a little too much food for my preworkout. I am at the gym now waiting ony partner. I ate about 1.5 hours ago and still fill bloated. I ate 1/2 cup of oats with 2 tablespoons nati pb a handful of raisins (maybe 1/8th cup) and a scoop of whey ISO-100. Then 6 egg whites. Have push/ pull arms today. Hope to get a good pump, put that food to work. I weighed in on an empty stomach this morning 213lbs. So I am holding good. Been fluctuating from 213 to 215 for 3 weeks now. Last measure bf% at 8.9. Don't know how accurate, but the lowest I've measure in a while. Time to hit the weights. Shout at ya later.
    bolded sounds like a good way to conquer an ab day.
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  10. ^ it is. It gives extra motivation.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Yesterday I didn't make it. Duty called. Couldn't get out of work in time to make it. Its ok it was just cardio and Abs.

    This morning I did fasted cardio, abs, and calves. Burn start while doing abs, love the feeling. Great placebo for me it like a game once it starts I try to see how long I can keep it and if I can make it more intense.

    After cardio I had a decent breakfast. Good lunch and a little too much food for my preworkout. I am at the gym now waiting ony partner. I ate about 1.5 hours ago and still fill bloated. I ate 1/2 cup of oats with 2 tablespoons nati pb a handful of raisins (maybe 1/8th cup) and a scoop of whey ISO-100. Then 6 egg whites.

    Have push/ pull arms today. Hope to get a good pump, put that food to work.

    I weighed in on an empty stomach this morning 213lbs. So I am holding good. Been fluctuating from 213 to 215 for 3 weeks now. Last measure bf% at 8.9. Don't know how accurate, but the lowest I've measure in a while.

    Time to hit the weights. Shout at ya later.
    Would you say the Dermatherm has helped you get to that 8.9%?


  12. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    ^ it is. It gives extra motivation.
    and pain. But no pain no gain, right?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy
    and pain. But no pain no gain, right?
    Interested to feel this burn haha

  14. Quote Originally Posted by ITW View Post
    Interested to feel this burn haha
    Hit Ryan or myself up with a PM if you decide to, and we can give you a coupon code.
    Just inject.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy
    Hit Ryan or myself up with a PM if you decide to, and we can give you a coupon code.
    Thanks! Most definitely will when my summer cut time rolls around

  16. This weekeng was full of two brutal workouts. legs on Saturday, Back on Sunday. My body is feeling the pain today. Could barely get out of bed, after 7.5 hours of sleep I still felt like I was beaten.

    However, Post workout Sunday sunday was my refeed. It was much more then I normally give myself, but I wanted to eat. I ate 35 wings. 25 with hot sauce and 10 plain. that meal alone was around 2200-2300 cals. Thats the first time in 14-15 weeks Ive ate over a two hundred cals over my daily norm. Even my refeeds are usually upped carbs by 50 or so and I eat slightly fattier food I wouldn't normally eat.

  17. The idea of 30 wings has me salivating right now.
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  18. we have a place called "Fire on the mountain" here in Portland.......best wing place.....I mean ridiculous!

    -Matt

  19. Buffallo Wild Wings is our goto here, its decent.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Buffallo Wild Wings is our goto here, its decent.
    Love me their deep fried pickles when I allow myself to have them!
    “Beastmode is when you can not possibly go any further, but then you make a conscious choice to move forward”.

  21. Man today was one of those days, kids sick 103 temp all last night, wife's birthday, and called into a meeting this morning on my day off.

    With all that, I hit a slow ride this morning for 35 minute and 9 miles; then hit a meeting met the wife for a late brunch, tanned, and then hit weights. Did a upper body workout of front delts, rear delts, bicep, triceps, traps and then calves. Very fast paced 2 excersises per muscle group.

    Felt good when I left. Rushed home got ready and we went to a movie. We saw end of watch. It's very good movie but bad ending.

    Still applying DermaTherm post shower at night. Then pre workout in evenings. Really enjoying the pre workout application. Nice deep burn.

    I am looking about the same wich I am happy with. Have to hold On To gains and want to keep the bf low during pct.

    I feel stronger now then on cycle. Body is harder must be from the ai and serm. Will post up some two week out pct photos soon.

  22. Hope your kid feels better soon bud, thanks for the update


  23. Thanks ryansm He is doing much better today. He is still sluggish due to no energy. But he's back to eating and looks much better.

    I had an adventure last night. I got out of the shower and went to apply my DermaTherm I put it in my hand and as I sent to put it on my stomach and it dripped off my hand down to my crotch. That was one helluva burn. Holy cow I stood in front of a fan for 30 minutes.

    I hit the gym this morning did 35 min on the stair master and abs. Felt great with a good deep burn. I took my shirt off in the locker room and wow were my abs vascular. They were nice and red from the DermaTherm but the veins were everywhere. Very impressive.

    Came home from the gym and did about 1.5 hours of yard work the burn stayed the entire time. It's an adicting feeling. I really like it.

    Resting up now to hit the gym for legs tonight. Gonna smash them. I Love legs I feel like it just takes everything to keep going and when I finish it gives me th same feeling I use to have after a football game or pt test.

  24. Oh man, I can only imagine the pain with last nights adventure.
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    complete exhaustion when I was done with legs, I was soaked head to toe, sweated a lot more then normal.

    my leg routine:

    Squats: 135x20, 225 x 10, 275x5, 275x5, 275x5, 225x10, 135x10

    Hack Squats (Hammer Strength) Heels together toes pointed out: 225x8 for 3 sets

    Single leg hamstring curl (standing) superset with leg extensions:
    100x10 3 sets 140x10 3 sets

    Lying hamstring curl super set sitting calves
    135x10 3 sets 150x failure toes in, out, and straight

    Dead Lifts
    225x10, 315x 8, 365x5

    I was dead afterwards. Could barely walk and feeling it today.


    As far as DermaTherm, I am loving it. Woke up this morning shredded. slowly but surely I am getting leaner in the midsection. My strength is great for PCT its not down at all. I am weighing in at 213 to 215. still hovering in the 8-9% category. will test in another week. I really like that I feel dermatherm when my workouts get intense, it adds to it.
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