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    For the next 8 weeks I'll be running quite the stack. I've never used this many supplements at once, but the combination should be helpful in achieving my goals. With the help of a lot of great sales over the last few months I've been able to generate a decent stash of supps and I'm looking forward to seeing what I can get out of this combo. I'm waiting on a new hard drive for my computer so I'm starting out posting everything from my phone. It should arrive this week, but until then this is going to be a pain.



    The Main Stack:
    Test Powder (2 tubs/8 weeks)
    Erase Pro (2 bottles/8 weeks)
    AnaBeta Elite (3 bottles/ 8 weeks)
    Alphamine (2 tubs/ 8 weeks)
    X-Gels (~6 bottles/5 weeks)

    Other Supplements:
    Cissus XT
    ALCAR 500
    Glycergrow
    Calcium
    Orange Triad
    Recover Pro
    Gut Health
    Pancreatin
    Protein
    various pre workouts




    Dosing:

    TPowder-2 scoops w/pre workout meal on training days. 2 scoops with breakfast on non training days

    Erase Pro- 1 cap AM on an empty stomach

    AB Elite- 6 caps daily. 2 caps with pre and post workout meal/shake and 2 caps with another meal/meals on training days. 6 caps spread throughout the day with meals on non training days. With doses not around my workouts the caps will vary between 1-2 depending on what I'm eating.

    Alphamine- 2 scoops in the morning on an empty stomach. 1 scoop afternoon on a somewhat empty stomach.

    X-Gels- 2g ArA(20 gels) pre workout.
    -these will be taken sometime between weeks 1-6. Still waiting for Glycergrow to arrive.
    ALCAR- 2g pre workout
    Glycergrow- 3 scoops pre workout during X-Gel run
    Calcium- 1g pre workout (to block some Zinc absorption from X-Gels)
    -I had thought about not including X-Gels in this stack, but after going over things with a highly valued member of AM it was decided that there was a good deal of merit in including them.

    Cissus XT- 4 caps away from workout/X-Gel dosing (early morning or late night depending on schedule). 2 caps AM/2 caps PM when not dosing X-Gels

    Orange Triad- 2 caps 3x daily w/meals

    Recover Pro- intra workout

    Gut Health- 1 cap PM

    Pancreatin- with all meals

    Protein- post workout /random times

    -I normally take fish oil, but will be dropping it while running X-Gels




    Goals: Add some lean mass/strength and drop a little fat.

    Diet: High carbs, protein, and fat. I have trouble absorbing food so I'm required to eat a lot. I will start out eating slightly above maintenance and make adjustments based on changes in body composition. I'm currently eating 5500-6500 (clean) calories daily based on what I'm doing each day.



    Training: No specific program. Lower reps with the majority of lifts especially compounds.

    Sunday- Chest/Triceps
    Monday-Biceps/Forearms/Calves/Abs or OFF
    Tuesday-Shoulders/Traps
    Wednesday-Back
    Thursday-Arms or OFF
    Friday-Legs/ Abs
    Saturday- OFF


    I started supplementing yesterday which was spent out of the gym and I had my first workout today. I will have some starting pics up tonight and should be caught up with posting initial thoughts and the first couple workouts by some point tomorrow.
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    Body Fat %: not sure ~12%
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    This is going to be INSANE. Good luck! Just finished my ArA run and am looking to start Anabeta or ABE this week and hopefully Testpowder soon. Not that any of that matters in your log, just saying I like your selection of products.

    In for this ride.
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    You know I am in.

    Sub'd !
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10
    This is going to be INSANE. Good luck! Just finished my ArA run and am looking to start Anabeta or ABE this week and hopefully Testpowder soon. Not that any of that matters in your log, just saying I like your selection of products.

    In for this ride.
    Thanks bolt. I'm pretty excited about these next couple months. I noticed we seem to favor a lot of the same supplements. I'll be doing my best to make this an "insane" run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    You know I am in.

    Sub'd !
    Great to have you along fumoney! I always appreciate your encouragement and feedback.
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    Starting Pics:

    These were taken the morning of day 1 (Sep 1)



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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11
    Starting Pics:

    These were taken the morning of day 1 (Sep 1)

    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=65 639"/>

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    Holy sh*t.....posting final pics already ? You look like you had an amazing run !!!

    Seriously, I am curious to see how much better conditioned you are going to get. I am ready to steal any bits of information I can get from your log. You certainly look like you are doing all the right things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Holy sh*t.....posting final pics already ? You look like you had an amazing run !!!

    Seriously, I am curious to see how much better conditioned you are going to get. I am ready to steal any bits of information I can get from your log. You certainly look like you are doing all the right things.
    Haha thanks brother. I'm curious to see where I end up as well. I'd ideally like to add a little size and tighten up my appearance as well. I'm pretty much a robot when it comes to my diet and training lol. I'll try to provide as much feedback as I can along the way.
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    One quick question for you breezy....if you have excess water or skin, what is the best macro to target for your diet to start working on losing it ? P/C/F ? Based on your experience of course.

    Sorry for going off topic.
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    you're fckin stacked already bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    One quick question for you breezy....if you have excess water or skin, what is the best macro to target for your diet to start working on losing it ? P/C/F ? Based on your experience of course.

    Sorry for going off topic.
    Sorry, but I don't really have a good answer for you. I've actually never attempted to alter my diet or macros very much. I always end up right around 40/30/30 (C/P/F) on a daily basis. With the amount of food I consume I would have a really hard time hitting my calorie target while doing something like low carb or IF. I eat all day everyday, but keep my food choices clean. It works for me, so I'll stick with until it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11

    Sorry, but I don't really have a good answer for you. I've actually never attempted to alter my diet or macros very much. I always end up right around 40/30/30 (C/P/F) on a daily basis. With the amount of food I consume I would have a really hard time hitting my calorie target while doing something like low carb or IF. I eat all day everyday, but keep my food choices clean. It works for me, so I'll stick with until it doesn't.
    That's perfect. Thanks for taking the time to answer !
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwa254
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    you're fckin stacked already bro.
    Thanks for joining and the compliment jwa254.
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    I'm in here breezy. I'd like to see how X-Gels treats you.

    1) Please go more in depth about taking Calcium concurrent w/ the X-Gels...

    2) Also wanted to know the reasoning behind dropping the fish oil

    Not that I'm doubting you, I was just curious as to how they interact with each other!

    3) I'm pretty sure I've seen you before dude. Aren't you that dude thats all BLOWN UP on the huge wall mural inside the Abercrombie & Fitch stores??? lol

    Kick some ass brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole
    I'm in here breezy. I'd like to see how X-Gels treats you.

    1) Please go more in depth about taking Calcium concurrent w/ the X-Gels...

    2) Also wanted to know the reasoning behind dropping the fish oil

    Not that I'm doubting you, I was just curious as to how they interact with each other!

    3) I'm pretty sure I've seen you before dude. Aren't you that dude thats all BLOWN UP on the huge wall mural inside the Abercrombie & Fitch stores??? lol

    Kick some ass brother.
    Welcome aboard DJ!

    1) There was a misunderstanding during the manufacturing process of this initial batch of X-Gels. The ArA content was supposed to be 250mg per cap, but ended up being 100mg (SNS compensated those who purchased before this was found out) . As a result, in order to get 2g of ArA I need to take 20 gels, which also gives me 100mg of Zinc (5mg per gel). 1g of Calcium taken with the X-gels will inhibit a good amount of Zinc from being absorbed. 100mg of Zinc is too much.

    2) ArA (X-Gels) is a pro-inflammatory fatty acid. Fish oil being anti-inflammatory could lower the effectiveness of X-Gels. All anti-inflammatories should be taken away from the time of ArA dosing or avoided all together. That's why I'll be dropping the fish oil and taking the Cissus as far away from the X-Gels as possible.

    3) Actually that's my brother...people always get us confused lol.
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    How the hell did I miss this!!!! You know your sparty brother is in this one for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    How the hell did I miss this!!!! You know your sparty brother is in this one for sure!
    I figured you'd show up lol. Thanks brother! Should be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
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    Your progress and overall build is straight up incredible man! With your calorie and carb intake I'm just in aw at how lean and shredded you stay. I know I'm kicking a dead horse here but wtf bro! True sparty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift

    Your progress and overall build is straight up incredible man! With your calorie and carb intake I'm just in aw at how lean and shredded you stay. I know I'm kicking a dead horse here but wtf bro! True sparty.
    Thanks dude. I've been more than happy with the way I've been able to get my size back. I guess I have a pretty good handle on the "lean bulk" concept lol.
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    I was going to add this to the first post, but can't edit in pictures on my phone...I'll do some editing when my computer is up and running

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    Some initial thoughts (pre day 1):

    I have run the majority of these supplements (or their ingredients) in the past and have a decent idea what to expect out of them. I have experience with E Pro, AB Elite, DAA, and ArA (one X-Factor run a few years ago).

    I obviously haven't had the chance to run Alphamine being that it was just released, but have experience with some of the ingredients including N-Coumaroyldopamine (in Compound 20). I'm most interested in seeing how Alphamine will effect my appearance over the next 8 weeks. I decided to try it out a week ago and it left a good first impression. I'm pretty stim tolerant and 2 scoops provided a good amount of clean energy. There was also a slight thermo effect felt along with some appetite suppression. I took my "test dose" right when I woke up and didn't eat for a few hours. I'm normally starving shortly after waking up and Alphamine kept the hunger at bay. It doesn't crush my appetite and I could easily eat if I chose to which is a good thing considering the amount of food I take in. The flavor I used was Fruit Punch (I have Raspberry Lemonade as well) and I thought it was great. I'm not a fan of FP in general, but I honestly enjoyed the taste of Alphamine.
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    Day 1 (Sep 1)

    Weight: 207.4lbs

    I feel like I was holding some water and will probably see my weight drop somewhat over the next few days. I usually hit a weekly high by the end of the weekend and drop some water as the work week progresses (currently working a physical day job).


    Supplement intake:

    Alphamine- 2 scoops AM (Raspberry Lemonade) 1 scoop 6 hours later (Fruit Punch)

    The morning dose provided good clean energy and I waited a couple hours before eating. The RL flavor is delicious and I prefer it over FP (which is also very good). 1 scoop in the afternoon provided a minimal pick me up, but not as noticeable as my morning dose.

    Erase Pro- 1 cap AM in an empty stomach

    AB Elite- 2 caps with breakfast, 1 cap each with daytime meals, 2 caps with dinner.

    I notice some immediate effects with ABE. I sometimes feel a slight increase in muscle fullness shortly after taking it with a large meal. This was the case with my initial dose. I love the instant gratification I get with this supp.


    Test Powder- 2 scoops with breakfast

    This was my first taste of TPwder and I was pleased with the flavor. It's Fruit Punch, and once again I was surprised that I enjoyed it like I did with Alphamine. It wasn't as good as Alpha, but it was pretty tasty considering its DAA...no sourness detected.

    I most likely won't be detailing supplement intake to this extent all the time as it will be repetitive, is outlined in my first post, and I'm typing this on my phone. I'm extremely busy during the week and just keeping a log is a challenge in itself. This is more to offer some first impressions on a couple of the supplements.


    Additional Thoughts:

    The day was spent out of the gym relaxing. I worked legs the day before and beat them up pretty good. At this point there's not much to report being that its day 1 of supplementation.
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    Day 2 (Sep 2)

    I had my morning scoops Alphamine (RL), a cap of EP, and waited a few hours before eating breakfast. During the week I'll be eating about 40 mins after my initial Alphamine dose. Once again I had good energy that was clean and jitter free.

    I had my pre workout meal (breakfast) with 2 caps of ABE and 2 scoops of TPwder. I took 2 scoops of White Flood before heading to the gym. With my stim tolerance being high, there was no problem haven taken Alphamine about 4 hours earlier.


    I worked chest/tris and had a solid workout. Strength was up with several exercises compared to the previous week.

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    275x5

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    80x11
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    20x12 (flat bench)
    25x8 (flat bench)
    25x8 (flat bench)
    20x12 (standing/low pull)
    25x8 (standing/low pull)

    Dips (wide grip/slow negative)
    BW+75x9
    BW+75x9
    BW+75x8

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    115x9
    120x6
    Rope Pulldowns
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    40x15
    45x12
    45x12

    I had 2 caps of ABE with my post workout shake consisting of protein and oats on the ride home from the gym. I held off on eating and had a scoop of Alphamine(FP) about 2 hours after my shake. My final 2 caps of ABE were taken with dinner.


    I'm already noticing a slight increase in vascularity. There was a vein running across my shoulder which remained visible throughout the day. This is most likely the quick work of AB Elite.
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    Great detail on those day 1,2 updates bro! Just playing can't wait to see the details though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift
    Great detail on those day 1,2 updates bro! Just playing can't wait to see the details though!
    Haha thanks man. I was going to put "reserved" in the posts, but didn't. Just wanted to save a spot here towards the beginning...not that the thread will gain a bunch of pages before I update anyways.
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    In on this. That is one epic stack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99
    In on this. That is one epic stack!
    Welcome Dewey. I'm hoping to get some solid results out of it.
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    looking good bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aznmonk
    looking good bro
    Thanks man
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    First couple days are updated. I'll get today's update posted by the end of the day.
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    Day 3

    I started my day with a couple scoops of RL Alphamine and a cap of EP. At this point RL is a clear favorite over FP for me although they are both really good. Having the day off from work, I went a couple hours before eating with the help of Alphamine.

    I weighed in at 206.8lbs (-0.6lbs overall). I noticed that my appearance was looking a little tighter than a couple days ago. I think Erase Pro has started to take care of some extra water that I may have been holding. This is right in line with my previous use of Erase/Erase Pro.

    I had a big breakfast which was also my pre workout meal. I wasn't going to make it to the gym until about 1.5 hours after eating, so I had 1 cap of ABE/2 scoops of TPwder with my meal and another cap of ABE right before leaving.

    I worked biceps/forearms/calves/abs which went well overall.

    Chins
    BWx16
    BW+60x6
    BW+70x4
    BW+70x4
    BW+40x8

    Standing Cable Curl (straight bar/3 sec neg./~10 sec. rest)
    95x5
    95x5
    100x3
    100x3
    95x4
    90x5

    Calf Extension (seated leg press)
    295x34 (straight)
    295x23 (toes in)
    295x21 (toes out)
    315x17 (straight)

    DB alt Curl
    60x6
    60x5
    55x7
    drop
    40x5

    Seated Crunch (machine)
    205x26
    205x20
    205x20

    Preacher Curl (machine/4 sec. neg.)
    200x6
    200x5
    200x5

    supersets
    Cable Curl (rotating v-bar)
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    I seemed to start sweating easier than I usually do. During the 10 sec rest cable curls I worked up a decent sweat. I believe I was feeling the thermo effect of Alphamine.

    I had 2 caps of ABE with my protein and oats shake immediately following my workout. A couple hours later I had a scoop of FP Alphamine. I noticed a very slight increase in energy with the afternoon dose. I just had my final 2 caps of ABE with dinner.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how Alphamine helps me power through a day of work tomorrow. I'm normally falling asleep shortly after lunch and could really use some additional energy.
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    And here we go !

    Good updates to start the log. Initially I will be paying attention to how Alphamine treats you.
    I started a new log at:
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Welcome aboard DJ!

    1) There was a misunderstanding during the manufacturing process of this initial batch of X-Gels. The ArA content was supposed to be 250mg per cap, but ended up being 100mg (SNS compensated those who purchased before this was found out) . As a result, in order to get 2g of ArA I need to take 20 gels, which also gives me 100mg of Zinc (5mg per gel). 1g of Calcium taken with the X-gels will inhibit a good amount of Zinc from being absorbed. 100mg of Zinc is too much.

    2) ArA (X-Gels) is a pro-inflammatory fatty acid. Fish oil being anti-inflammatory could lower the effectiveness of X-Gels. All anti-inflammatories should be taken away from the time of ArA dosing or avoided all together. That's why I'll be dropping the fish oil and taking the Cissus as far away from the X-Gels as possible.

    3) Actually that's my brother...people always get us confused lol.
    Thanks breezy! Very informative post
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    And here we go !

    Good updates to start the log. Initially I will be paying attention to how Alphamine treats you.
    Thanks fu. That's my main interest as of now too. I'll be starting X-Gels later this week though and am curious about what they have to offer. I don't remember much about my previous ArA run and I don't think I dosed it as high as I'm planning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

    Thanks breezy! Very informative post
    No problem DJ. Glad I could help clear things up a little.
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    Day 4

    I was extremely tired and had a horrible time trying to wake up this morning. As soon as I could drag my ass out of bed I had 2 scoops of FP Alphamine and a cap of EP. About 10 mins later I finally felt functional. I didn't get any crazy energy, but it was enough to get me up and running.

    There was a big jump in weight this morning when I stepped on the scale at 210.4lbs (+3lbs overall). I still feel I'm looking tighter than a few days ago and expect to see my weight go down over the next few work days as it always does.

    I had a big breakfast about 40 mins later which was somewhat of a hassle to finish. I honestly wasn't hungry at all, but I need to take advantage of my time in the morning and get down a bunch of calories. I seem to be getting a good amount of appetite suppression from Alphamine. I had 2 caps of ABE with my 1500 calorie meal and will have the remaining 4 caps of the day around my workout tonight.

    I'm hoping to get a good kick in the pants from a scoop of Alphamine this afternoon as I feel like it will be much needed by that time. I'll be bringing a scoop in a little key chain funnel/container that came with the USPlabs 3in1 shaker. They're pretty cool if you haven't seen one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Day 4

    I was extremely tired and had a horrible time trying to wake up this morning. As soon as I could drag my ass out of bed I had 2 scoops of FP Alphamine and a cap of EP. About 10 mins later I finally felt functional. I didn't get any crazy energy, but it was enough to get me up and running.

    There was a big jump in weight this morning when I stepped on the scale at 210.4lbs (+3lbs overall). I still feel I'm looking tighter than a few days ago and expect to see my weight go down over the next few work days as it always does.

    I had a big breakfast about 40 mins later which was somewhat of a hassle to finish. I honestly wasn't hungry at all, but I need to take advantage of my time in the morning and get down a bunch of calories. I seem to be getting a good amount of appetite suppression from Alphamine. I had 2 caps of ABE with my 1500 calorie meal and will have the remaining 4 of the day around my workout tonight.

    I'm hoping to get a good kick in the pants from a scoop of Alphamine this afternoon as I feel like it will be much needed by that time. I'll be bringing a scoop in a little key chain funnel/container that came with the USPlabs 3in1 shaker. They're pretty cool if you haven't seen one.
    Damn man you just now waking up? LOL I'm still at work Bout to head home here in 30 mins. Wake yo ass up, son! Keychain funnel sounds interesting... unfortunately I have about 10 shaker cups :\ which the wife despises for taking up unnecessary pantry shelf space haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole

    Damn man you just now waking up? LOL I'm still at work Bout to head home here in 30 mins. Wake yo ass up, son! Keychain funnel sounds interesting... unfortunately I have about 10 shaker cups :\ which the wife despises for taking up unnecessary pantry shelf space haha
    I'm up, I'm up lol. I get up sometime before 5 on weekdays. Yeah its a little funnel with screw on caps at each end. It's perfect for a scoop of whatever on the go. I hear ya with the shakers. I have about 10 as well. I got this one free (like most of them) with TPwder. It has pill storage on top, the bottom has a powder container that screws on/off, and it came with the mini funnel key chain thing...I don't keep it with my keys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11
    Day 4

    I was extremely tired and had a horrible time trying to wake up this morning. As soon as I could drag my ass out of bed I had 2 scoops of FP Alphamine and a cap of EP. About 10 mins later I finally felt functional. I didn't get any crazy energy, but it was enough to get me up and running.

    There was a big jump in weight this morning when I stepped on the scale at 210.4lbs (+3lbs overall). I still feel I'm looking tighter than a few days ago and expect to see my weight go down over the next few work days as it always does.

    I had a big breakfast about 40 mins later which was somewhat of a hassle to finish. I honestly wasn't hungry at all, but I need to take advantage of my time in the morning and get down a bunch of calories. I seem to be getting a good amount of appetite suppression from Alphamine. I had 2 caps of ABE with my 1500 calorie meal and will have the remaining 4 of the day around my workout tonight.

    I'm hoping to get a good kick in the pants from a scoop of Alphamine this afternoon as I feel like it will be much needed by that time. I'll be bringing a scoop in a little key chain funnel/container that came with the USPlabs 3in1 shaker. They're pretty cool if you haven't seen one.
    Can't believe you don't get crazy good energy from two scoops! Then again I don't respond to craze what so ever so I guess different products effect people differently. 210! Could of swore your last log you finished at t 205ish? I would love to get your lean gains bro!
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