Last 4 years i have been on trt [200mg test cyp weekly]. recently my blood test came back showing very high liver values, my doc decided to take me off trt and see if liver values come down. during a conversation about formestane i mentioned to bulk perf my situation, and he VERY generously offered to let me try these products. my last bloods before being taken off trt was right at a month ago and total test was 720, i know my level has dropped considerably since then. i haven't been using anything for increasing test since then, unless you count extenze that i have been using to keep libido up. my estrogen level is going to be high also i would think, so i am putting a lot of faith in formasurge to not only raise test but keep estrogen in check....endosurge i have used before, but it was when i was on trt-i am hoping it will have the same great effect as it did before!!!