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    TRUTHORNOTHIN'S UR SPRAY LOG .... THE RETURN OF "TRUTH"


    I started UR Spray by Prototype Nutrition This Morning. This is the new more bio available version of Patrick Arnold's Ursobolic, It is in spray form and I will be applying it twice daily

    I am a 47 year old male, I've been working out for approximately 21+ years

    6'1" 215 lbs
    Measurements:

    Bi's: 18.5" Right 18" Left

    Chest 50'

    stomach 35

    Thighs 28

    BF 13% +/-


    Currently on a ketogenic diet

    Macros: 70%protein 2.5%carbs 27.5% fat,I am coming off a not so lean bulk


    I just came off a 2 month bulk where I ate whatever and as much of whatever as I desired. I gained up to 225 and have been keto dieting for a week and have lost 10lbs

    I am going to run this spray for 4 weeks at 50 sprays x two times a day

    I intend to try to recomp, maintaining as close to my current weight as possible while losing fat I hope to get back into the single digits fat wise.

    Diet: Like last log food intake will be weighed and measured. You may be surprised at the quantities and of the fat, I am doing the keto thing I am eating a lot of food just not a lot of carbs

    Work out: Will be logged in detail, today is my workout day off.


    Will make full post with pics this evening. Who wants to come along for the ride?
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    Here are the supplement details
    With the same active ingredient as EPharm's Ursobolic, this product contains a soluble derivative of the amazing natural repartitioning compound ursolic acid. By transforming the poorly absorbed parent, ursolic acid, into its acetic acid ester, and then into the sodium salt of that ester, a form is acquired that can be effectively delivered via topical formulation.Topical administration allows for a much higher percentage of ursolic acid to enter the body than with oral formulations of straight ursolic acid. It also allows for a sustained release effect, so that blood levels of ursolic acid can be maintained throughout the day!

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    I'm in. Considering giving UR a go myself.
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    Subbed , I wanna see if you get the "taste" on the back of the throat side as my buddy does!! Good luck! Seems like an awesome product!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I'm in. Considering giving UR a go myself.
    jwa254 in for this
    Celorza Subbed , I wanna see if you get the "taste" on the back of the throat side as my buddy does!! Good luck! Seems like an awesome product!
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    subbed bro. kill it!
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    Ill be following. Ive been on the urso for id say 2.5 weeks or so. Diggin the effects thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    subbed bro. kill it!
    Matt my bruddah!! glad to have you on board, I was hoping you would follow

    3clipseGT Ill be following. Ive been on the urso for id say 2.5 weeks or so. Diggin the effects thus far.
    Glad to have you following along, all the reviews I've seen thus far are overwhelmingly positive.....I am looking forward to this
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    Keep in mind this is after a un clean bulk. I ate lots and lots of carbs trying to get my 47 year old frame jump started
    to see if I could add some extra muscle and then keep it. My back and thighs benefited the most from this bulk now lets see if UR Spray can help me lose the fat
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    5/26/2012

    Supplementation:

    This will be pretty much the same every day:
    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2
    Testforce2 2 scoops
    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine

    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info




    Diet :

    Breakfast:
    4 whole eggs
    4.5 ounces pork sausage cooked weight
    6 cups coffee
    1/4 cup

    Meal 2:
    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce(Dsade's creation...very delicious)
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce(Dsade's creation...very delicious)
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:

    3 hardboiled eggs
    2Tblsp's Mayo with 1 tsp thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 5:

    2 Duck Eggs Fried
    6 oz pork sausage


    Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
    1 oz pork rinds
    2 tblsp mayo


    Work out:

    Today was my day off



    Observations: Damn, the photos made me realize how much fat I put on. Love handles galore, was a little too free with the carbs. Going to be a better test of the Ur spray than I thought....or wanted. Notice the diet is not what anyone else would consider one. I am already turning the Keto test sticks purple so its working. I have changed up my training from last log. I have cut my volume but cutting out the sets between warm up and my final working weight. Less total volume but more total reps with my heaviest weights. I am having DOMS for the first time in forever, I am taking that as a good sign. Ok folks here we go. Regarding the UR Spray, I feel warm hot even may be placebo at this point or even the fact that this is the South and we Damn hot down here. Any questions, please ask, any flames...well there will always be haters. The Truth is back and needs your feed back. Its on!
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    The keto diet sure has its pros and cons. On the pro side I never have to be hungry I eat at will and lots, cons...I sure would love some waffles soaked in maple syrup(the real deal) right now Oh well, my ketostix are only showing moderate amounts of ketones in my urine. When I turn them deep purple I'll work a cheat day in here or there.

    Also looking back over my pics, my main goal the last couple months has been to improve the width and thickness of my lats. The lighting was not the best but it appears that they are indeed wider and thicker, my tris see a lot thicker too, could just me the flab lol
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    Nice! What are your macro's usually per day?
    Ketostix? Are they like Nitrostix!? They stopped making those, right? I tried looking for some...I imagine they quit making them like 20 years ago hahah
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    In to support you, David! We are all our own worst critics - you're still in better shape than most, but I understand wanting to be better and keep creating a work of art with one's body, so every encouragement I can give you will get. You'll be back in single-digits re body composition before you know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    Nice! What are your macro's usually per day?
    Ketostix? Are they like Nitrostix!? They stopped making those, right? I tried looking for some...I imagine they quit making them like 20 years ago hahah
    Nope they are walmart brand, Normally my macros look like this :Macros: 50%protein 25%carbs 25% fat,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee View Post
    In to support you, David! We are all our own worst critics - you're still in better shape than most, but I understand wanting to be better and keep creating a work of art with one's body, so every encouragement I can give you will get. You'll be back in single-digits re body composition before you know it

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    Thanks Rosie, I know I can do it, the bulk was needed, I've been running on too few calories for too long I needed to jump start my metabolism. I've just been so lean for so long its hard to look at myself when I am not. That's what they create products like this for though right, I'll be back to my fighting trim in no time....fingers crossed lol
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    Headed to the gym Chest Shoulders and tris A shot of Clearshot and I am off!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Nope they are walmart brand, Normally my macros look like this :Macros: 50%protein 25%carbs 25% fat,
    I think they stopped making Nitrostix like 6 years ago. It would measure nitrogen levels in the urine. Wish they still had em, it'd be nice to know some kind of real ballpark for each individual in terms of how much protein is sufficient.

    Sorry, I meant gram amounts of each macro per day. Like 400g protein a day?
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    5/28/2012


    Supplementation:

    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2

    Testforce2 2 scoops
    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine

    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

    Diet :

    Breakfast:
    4 whole egg omelette
    1oz cheddar cheese
    4.5 ounces pork sausage cooked weight
    6 cups coffee
    1/4 cup heavy cream

    Meal 2:
    4 hard boiled eggs
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce(Dsade's creation...very delicious)
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce(Dsade's creation...very delicious)
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:

    4 hardboiled eggs
    2Tblsp's Mayo with 1 tsp thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 5:

    4 Eggs Fried
    6 oz pork sausage


    Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
    1 oz pork rinds
    2 tblsp mayo


    Pre Workout:

    1 serving white flood

    Intra workout:

    1 serving Purple Wraath

    Training:

    Workout:

    Today was chest shoulders and tris I still have the funky pain so I set out to take it easy.

    Chest:

    Incline DB Bench Press: 65's x 20, it felt good 75 x 15 still good 95x15 100's x 10 x 2, 100's x 8x 2
    Incline Machine press Three wheels each side, 5 x 8
    Crossovers Challenging weight 5 sets of 15

    Shoulders:

    Overhead DB Presses: 70 x 6 x 1, 75 x 6 x 3
    Cable laterals challenging weight 5 x 12 each side
    Shoulder lateral machine; 100 x 12 x 4

    Triceps: Seated dip machine 300lb stack x 10 x 4
    Push downs - Stack of 100x 12, Stack plus 20 lbs of auxiliary plates x 12 x 5


    This was a good workout, was good and strong. Right elbow is the only thing holding me back and Jointforce has almost made it a non issue. The lower volume higher weight workout seems to be working nicely. Again I am pleasantly sore.... I like that.... a lot

    Observations:

    Only second day but the feeling of being hot is definitely apparent complete with sweating, just like when I started Ursobolic. not enough time to have noticed anything else. Have been very stressed out as of late due to neighbor issues. I have been carrying that aggression into the gym. Its been good for the workout but bad for my sanity. Tomorrow Leg Day

    Weight: 212, still in ketosis as shown by test strips. Hopefully this fat will melt quickly
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    ketostix are not always that reliable, i have found, especially if you are drinking a LOT of water, it will dilute the urine and you may not show on the stix, but still be in ketosis

    anyway, good luck with your log. I am almost done with my first bottle of UR and have been out of control on my diet lately, but the damage seems to have been minimized. for my second bottle i will be cleaning it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldymcgee View Post
    ketostix are not always that reliable, i have found, especially if you are drinking a LOT of water, it will dilute the urine and you may not show on the stix, but still be in ketosis

    anyway, good luck with your log. I am almost done with my first bottle of UR and have been out of control on my diet lately, but the damage seems to have been minimized. for my second bottle i will be cleaning it up.
    I usually test in the morning when I get up. That way the urine is concentrated and you are more apt to get an accurate test.

    I hear you on the out of control diet. My first experience with Ursobolic was similar I added carbs upon carbs and not damage at all. I did a full on bulk the last couple months eating waaaaay above maintenance. Cleaning it up now. Keto is the only way to go for guaranteed fat loss in my opinion. I do not like to starve, so being able to eat plenty of food and still losing fat is the way to go for me.

    I am already feeling the heat effect of the Ur Spray as well as some appetite suppression. It is only my third day but even though I am losing weight my shirt was tighter and people at the gym today commented I looked larger. Cannot imagine it could work this quickly but if so, GREAT!

    Will be posting my update after the season finally of River Monsters lol
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    5/28/2012


    Supplementation:

    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2

    Testforce2 2 scoops
    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine

    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

    Diet :

    Breakfast:
    4 whole egg omelette
    1 oz Monterrey Jack Cheese
    4. ounces pork sausage cooked weight
    6 cups coffee
    1/4 cup heavy cream

    Meal 2:
    4 eggs
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:

    12oz turkey leg roasted
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream cheese

    Meal 5:

    8 oz chicken thighs
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream


    Snack 2 hardboiled eggs
    1 oz pork rinds
    2 tblsp mayo


    Pre Workout:

    1 serving White Glood
    1 serving Clearshot

    Workout:

    Legs


    Squats: 135 x 20 warm up, 225 x 20, 275 x 15, 315 x 10, 365 x 5 x 1, 365 x 4 x 3, 315 x 8 x 3

    Leg Press: 500 x 12 x 1, 600 x 12 x 2, 700 x 10 x 2

    Leg extension 140 x 12 x 1, 160 x 10 x 2, 170 x 8 x 2

    Hammer Strength Stand up 1 leg curls 110 x 12 x 1, 120 x 12 x 1, 130 x 7 x 2

    Calve raises: 380 x 12 x 4

    Seated Calve Raises 15 x 8 x 3

    Post work out: 50 grams Whey Protein


    Observations:

    Very Strong leg day, all squats well below parallel, again I have reduced volume doing less sets but more at the upper end of my strength range. My legs are trashed and cramping, was trembling walking out. Regarding the UR spray, definitely feeling warmer. I am also not as hungry especially at night which is when I usually fall off any diet, thus far it hasn't happened. I also felt like my shirt was tighter that the last time I wore the self same shirt, it is the shirt I always wear when I squat. So the last time that I wore it was prior to starting the UR Spray. I find it personally hard to believe that it can be having a noticeable effect after three days so maybe its just me, weight the same as yesterday at 212. I am still turning the ketostix purple and am starting to feel my energy level ramp up. Will post more pics at the 7 day mark, I feel I look leaner already but will wait a full seven days so as to hopefully be able to see a discernible difference that no one will nor can dispute
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    5/29/2012


    Supplementation:

    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2

    Testforce2 2 scoops
    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine

    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

    Diet :

    Breakfast:
    6 eggs scrambled
    4. ounces pork sausage cooked weight
    6 cups coffee
    1/4 cup heavy cream

    Meal 2:
    4 eggs
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz Cheddar cheese
    20 grams Kalamata olives
    Meal:3

    8 oz turkey
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:

    12oz turkey leg roasted
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream cheese

    Meal 5:

    8 oz chicken thighs
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream


    2 oz pork rinds
    Tablespoons sour Cream


    Pre Workout:

    1 serving White flood
    1 serving Clearshot

    Interworkout: my own concoction
    20 grams BCAA's
    5 grams Citruline Malate

    Workout:

    Back and Bi's

    Back:

    Body weight Chins: 2x14, 2x12, 2x8, 2x6, 1x4 less than 60 sec rest between sets to keep intensity high, already sweating
    Nautilus Unilateral Pull down: stack=250 4x12x =250 1x 8x 250, 1x6x250 Drenched though the ac was cranking
    Hoist Lat Pulldown: 150 x 8 x 4, 150 x 6 x 1
    T-Bar Rows- 200 x 6 x 4, 180 x 8 x 2
    Hammer Strength seated unilateral low row. Stack-250+ 10lbs auxiliary 5x 12
    Shrugs: 275 x 12 x 5

    Bi's
    Standing EZ curl Curls 100x6 x3 with inside grip pinky down 100 x 6 x 3 outside grip pinky up(note trick I picked up from Larry Scott the father of 21" guns and the first Mr. Olympia. The standard grip on and EZ curl barely works biceps at all, it works the Brachialis mostly, switch outside with a pinky up grip and you will kill your bi's especially the inner head, only been doing this a month and it has totally rounded out my bicep making it appear much thicker when relaxed)

    Seated Plate Loaded Preacher machine curls: 110 x 6 x 4
    One handed Cable Curls: 5 x 60 x 12
    Biceps totally Fried drowning in sweat with a killer pump though I've had almost zero carbs in a week I'll file this one in the great work out category

    Observations:

    Sweating, a lot! Am having to run the ac much lower than I want to for electric bill reasons but I have to be cool. Dare I say it? I do I look leaner than Sunday, A good bit leaner. Tempted to post pics but will wait the full seven days as I want to make sure its not my imagination. Whats not my imagination is folks at the gym telling me I look bigger, Maintaining at 212, If I can hold that weight and still be lean it'll be 7 pounds of lean maintained gain....at 47, not too shabby. The Ur spray's effects seem immediate, I had to force myself to eat today. Did not want to at all.....I think Pat hit a home run on this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I usually test in the morning when I get up. That way the urine is concentrated and you are more apt to get an accurate test.

    I hear you on the out of control diet. My first experience with Ursobolic was similar I added carbs upon carbs and not damage at all. I did a full on bulk the last couple months eating waaaaay above maintenance. Cleaning it up now. Keto is the only way to go for guaranteed fat loss in my opinion. I do not like to starve, so being able to eat plenty of food and still losing fat is the way to go for me.

    I am already feeling the heat effect of the Ur Spray as well as some appetite suppression. It is only my third day but even though I am losing weight my shirt was tighter and people at the gym today commented I looked larger. Cannot imagine it could work this quickly but if so, GREAT!

    Will be posting my update after the season finally of River Monsters lol
    Looking forward to this log. I'm wrapping up a cut with Mechabol and 11-spray, and I wonder, what would you think about using UR spray during pct?
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    Looking forward to this log. I'm wrapping up a cut with Mechabol and 11-spray, and I wonder, what would you think about using UR spray during pct?
    I think it would be perfect in that application. It should help you preserve your gains
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    Damnit truth I told myself I'm not buying any new supps until I dwindle my collection...but you've got me wanting this more and more each post!
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    u definitely put on some weight since the arnold.


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    Keep in mind this is after a un clean bulk. I ate lots and lots of carbs trying to get my 47 year old frame jump started
    to see if I could add some extra muscle and then keep it. My back and thighs benefited the most from this bulk now lets see if UR Spray can help me lose the fat
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    The keto diet sure has its pros and cons. On the pro side I never have to be hungry I eat at will and lots, cons...I sure would love some waffles soaked in maple syrup(the real deal) right now Oh well, my ketostix are only showing moderate amounts of ketones in my urine. When I turn them deep purple I'll work a cheat day in here or there.

    Also looking back over my pics, my main goal the last couple months has been to improve the width and thickness of my lats. The lighting was not the best but it appears that they are indeed wider and thicker, my tris see a lot thicker too, could just me the flab lol

    if u are active or exercising alot you wont see that much ketones in your urine because u are burning them up. first thing in the morning when you wake up though u should have a decent amount in your urine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    u definitely put on some weight since the arnold.
    Ok....how should I take that...like"Damn bro, you sure got fat" or "Dude, you done got swole!" I unfortunately think Patrick meant the former lol. Me too, though as I said my back and thighs are definitely thicker and wider. I was 203 at the Arnold, 215 in those pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    if u are active or exercising alot you wont see that much ketones in your urine because u are burning them up. first thing in the morning when you wake up though u should have a decent amount in your urine
    Hmm I didn't think about it that way. I more thought, that more I exercised the more ketones there would be as I depleted my glycogen stores even further, I forgot that ketones are the fuel, so that makes sense, more fuel burned less excreted in urination. I knocked my self out today, too many almonds. I was giving it at test run to see if my normal daily almond consumption would be enough to knock me out and it indeed was
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Ok....how should I take that...like"Damn bro, you sure got fat" or "Dude, you done got swole!" I unfortunately think Patrick meant the former lol. Me too, though as I said my back and thighs are definitely thicker and wider. I was 203 at the Arnold, 215 in those pics

    u look better and worse.

    ponder that for a while now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    u look better and worse.

    ponder that for a while now
    pondering, that is pretty much what I've been thinking. I've added muscle mass for sure and I've been maxing the stack on almost every machine I use, so strength is up. If I could have done it without the excess abdominal fat and "lovies" But that is a good test for Ur Spray, Save the muscle melt the fat
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    5/30/2012


    Supplementation:

    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2

    Testforce2 2 scoops
    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine

    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

    Diet :

    Breakfast:
    4 whole egg omelette
    1 oz Monterrey Jack Cheese
    6 strips of bacon
    6 cups coffee
    1/2 cup heavy cream

    Meal 2:
    8oz ground turkey cooked weight
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:

    12oz Chicken thighs roasted
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream cheese

    Meal 5:

    4 boiled eggs
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream


    Snack :
    3oz of almonds


    No workout ...My Day off

    Observations: General well being is good, Craving carbs but not really hungry, appetite is lagging. Shouldn't have eaten all those almonds, knocked me out of ketosis. Well per the test strips anyway. I noticed something odd today. I have very bad spider veins in my ankles especially my right one. I was adjusting my sock today and was stunned to see that their appearance was greatly reduced. I am going to monitor this to see if it was a fluke or if it continues, if it continues I will be stoked as it is unsightly and one of the few physical signs of my true age.

    I am still feeling the heat, I feel noticeably warmer and I am still experiencing appetite suppression, I am forcing myself to eat to make sure that while in keto I do not lose muscle. I am noticing more definition in arms and shoulders, I always lose it last in my midsection. I am still feeling this is the best thing to come along in awhile.

    Recipe of the Week! Thermogenesauced Tuna Salad: Keto Friendly this is not low calorie just low carb
    Three tsp Thermogenesauce(Dsade's thermongenic hot sauce, If you don't have it get some until then substute your favorite, but this stuff is very good and perfectly hot)
    6.5 oz of your favorite canned tuna
    3 tablespoons Mayo
    1 rib celery sliced very thin
    2 strips bacon fried cruncy and crumbled
    1 Tablespoon Inglehoffer stone ground mustard

    Mix all the about ingredients together well chill and enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Supplementation:

    UR Spray: 50 sprays x 2

    Testforce2 2 scoops
    Multivitamin
    Supplemental C
    5 grams Citrulline Malate
    5 grams Beta Alanine
    Potassium
    Calcium
    5 grams Taurine
    1 gram Histidine

    Pre Post and Intra workout supplementation will be listed in workout info

    Diet :

    Breakfast:
    4 whole egg omelette
    1 oz Monterrey Jack Cheese
    6 strips of bacon
    6 cups coffee
    1/2 cup heavy cream

    Meal 2:
    8oz ground turkey cooked weight
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal:3

    8 oz cooked ground sirloin 80-20
    2 tblsp mayo with a teaspoon thermogenesauce
    1 oz cheddar cheese

    Meal 4:

    12oz Chicken thighs roasted
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream cheese

    Meal 5:

    4 boiled eggs
    2 celery sticks
    1 oz cream


    Snack :
    3oz of almonds


    No workout ...My Day off

    Observations: General well being is good, Craving carbs but not really hungry, appetite is lagging. Shouldn't have eaten all those almonds, knocked me out of ketosis. Well per the test strips anyway. I noticed something odd today. I have very bad spider veins in my ankles especially my right one. I was adjusting my sock today and was stunned to see that their appearance was greatly reduced. I am going to monitor this to see if it was a fluke or if it continues, if it continues I will be stoked as it is unsightly and one of the few physical signs of my true age.



    have you been spraying in that area?

    i had a skin ulcer kind of thing on my leg that has not gone away in year. it has practically dissapeared and that started happening around when i starting covering myself in UR spray
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    Yes I spray my ankles as the skin is thin there and I obviously have a lot of veins there. I was just looking at them last week(pre Ur Spray) because I remember thinking that they were looking much worse than before. Then today I looked down and I was literally astonished at how much much better they looked
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Yes I spray my ankles as the skin is thin there and I obviously have a lot of veins there. I was just looking at them last week(pre Ur Spray) because I remember thinking that they were looking much worse than before. Then today I looked down and I was literally astonished at how much much better they looked

    dont discount the possibility of the keto diet playing a role

    blood glucose levels can affect things like that pretty dramatically sometimes
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