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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    I would not go that far. I was reporting my results as they came trying to give the most honest feedback. I was starting to get concerned but I was always optimistic about it. This is mostly due to the fact that I have been nothing but impressed by every single product of yours I have purchased dating back to 6 oxo and GF pro. Now most of my a good deal of my family and friends are great supporters as well. I am truly thankful for all of your work and contributions to the supplement world and I greatly respect your work, word, knowledge, and products. It like being able to purchase a product knowing its exactly what the bottle says it is and then it has one of the best minds in the game behind it.

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    thank you very much. I regret to inform you that testforce 3 is not the next epharm product that is going to be released though.
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    3 days, very warm, good appetite suppression, decided to go IF again, usually struggle late afternoon, no trouble today, almost had to make myself eat.
    keeping off the scale, so can't report on weight.

    This is probably unique for this forum and PHF (0n which I contributed on your threads but different username) as I'm not lifting currently, my training is all based around my main sport which has a power and endurance combo, so will be interesting to see what it gives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    I would not go that far. I was reporting my results as they came trying to give the most honest feedback. I was starting to get concerned but I was always optimistic about it. This is mostly due to the fact that I have been nothing but impressed by every single product of yours I have purchased dating back to 6 oxo and GF pro. Now most of my a good deal of my family and friends are great supporters as well. I am truly thankful for all of your work and contributions to the supplement world and I greatly respect your work, word, knowledge, and products. It like being able to purchase a product knowing its exactly what the bottle says it is and then it has one of the best minds in the game behind it.

    And now I will stop clinging to your balls and demand that Testforce 3 get put in the fast lane for release
    Nobody does it like PA and E-Pharm do it. Glad you got the results you were looking for. I've been eating like there is not tomorrow candy cake cookies junk and still doing well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G12bey View Post
    3 days, very warm, good appetite suppression, decided to go IF again, usually struggle late afternoon, no trouble today, almost had to make myself eat.
    keeping off the scale, so can't report on weight.

    This is probably unique for this forum and PHF (0n which I contributed on your threads but different username) as I'm not lifting currently, my training is all based around my main sport which has a power and endurance combo, so will be interesting to see what it gives.
    Keep us updated I am curious to see it works in a non-lifting situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by muad33b View Post
    Not to be a dick, but I think you posted about sprays unrelated to this log of UR Spray by Truth. I would create a separate thread.
    I'm sorry I meant to say that I'm want to transition into UR Spray rather than R Spray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB

    I'm sorry I meant to say that I'm want to transition into UR Spray rather than R Spray.
    You could mix them I bet.
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    Seems like a lot of people are using this to report stuff, so I guess I will too.

    When I first started it I actually barely lifted for 3 weeks and ate like crap. I can eat like crap, I'm a pretty pure ecto. But when I don't lift I will obviously lose some weight, and look a little less hard than usual. Ur spray kept me looking hard. When I started lifting regularly, I started dropping weight, and I didn't want that. I was steadily dropping, I probably dropped 3-4 pounds in a few weeks, which for me is a lot of weight. I was concerned, but I knew I had just started lifting again and I need to keep lifting in order to see how it goes. I'm just starting the second bottle and I've gained back the weight I lost. I haven't done any measurements or caliper readings, but recovery is quick, and sleep has always been deep on this stuff. If I can gain another couple of pounds in the next 4 weeks, I consider that a huge success to be honest. I gained 8 pounds on X-Factor and lost 1/4 inch in my waist in a 50 day "cycle". So if I can gain 2-4 pounds in the next 4 weeks and not notice the very slight fat gain I may get from bulking my ass off (which I will not be doing anyways), great success!

    After this bottle I definitely want to give R-Spray a try, and then R-Spray plus TestForce.


    TF3 won't be the next product? You just dropped a bomb on us. Look forward to seeing what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    Seems like a lot of people are using this to report stuff, so I guess I will too.

    When I first started it I actually barely lifted for 3 weeks and ate like crap. I can eat like crap, I'm a pretty pure ecto. But when I don't lift I will obviously lose some weight, and look a little less hard than usual. Ur spray kept me looking hard. When I started lifting regularly, I started dropping weight, and I didn't want that. I was steadily dropping, I probably dropped 3-4 pounds in a few weeks, which for me is a lot of weight. I was concerned, but I knew I had just started lifting again and I need to keep lifting in order to see how it goes. I'm just starting the second bottle and I've gained back the weight I lost. I haven't done any measurements or caliper readings, but recovery is quick, and sleep has always been deep on this stuff. If I can gain another couple of pounds in the next 4 weeks, I consider that a huge success to be honest. I gained 8 pounds on X-Factor and lost 1/4 inch in my waist in a 50 day "cycle". So if I can gain 2-4 pounds in the next 4 weeks and not notice the very slight fat gain I may get from bulking my ass off (which I will not be doing anyways), great success!

    After this bottle I definitely want to give R-Spray a try, and then R-Spray plus TestForce.


    TF3 won't be the next product? You just dropped a bomb on us. Look forward to seeing what it is.
    Glad you are getting good results, I am just hoping my new shipment gets here berfore I run out lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Glad you are getting good results, I am just hoping my new shipment gets here berfore I run out lol
    Hah. Yea I'm glad I used that 10% code to order it when I had the chance. So are you back to a regular kind of diet, no more keto right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD929 View Post
    Hah. Yea I'm glad I used that 10% code to order it when I had the chance. So are you back to a regular kind of diet, no more keto right?
    Actually I've lately been on the I see food I eat food diet..not even kidding
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Actually I've lately been on the I see food I eat food diet..not even kidding
    Me too...And the "I think about food, I want it, so I go buy it" diet LOL...Stopping now though - seriously HAVE to (although I DO like the added muscle in delts and arms - biggest ever been, both, and symmetrical now re girths too). My body HATES me for being "off" schedule...Thinking I will add in the 7-SPRAY and UR-SPRAY soon...Hope everything else is going ok, David...

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Actually I've lately been on the I see food I eat food diet..not even kidding
    i have been doing this fasting thing where i eat almost nothing and take only some specialty supplements (some of which u guys never heard of)

    its starting to suck
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    are the UR caps still do out end of this month? I need to restock UR spray (1 bottle left) and want to wait for the combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    are the UR caps still do out end of this month? I need to restock UR spray (1 bottle left) and want to wait for the combo
    middle or end of august
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    middle or end of august
    ok thanks for update !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i have been doing this fasting thing where i eat almost nothing and take only some specialty supplements (some of which u guys never heard of)

    its starting to suck
    I hate you right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee View Post
    Me too...And the "I think about food, I want it, so I go buy it" diet LOL...Stopping now though - seriously HAVE to (although I DO like the added muscle in delts and arms - biggest ever been, both, and symmetrical now re girths too). My body HATES me for being "off" schedule...Thinking I will add in the 7-SPRAY and UR-SPRAY soon...Hope everything else is going ok, David...

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    I hear you, I love the extra strength, power and muscle size. I do need to slow down and sharpen up a bit though. You will love the UR-Spray its right up your alley. I am ok ....that which does not kill us makes us stronger eventually I am going to be one strong futher mucker Hope you are doing ok too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i have been doing this fasting thing where i eat almost nothing and take only some specialty supplements (some of which u guys never heard of)

    its starting to suck
    I tried intermittent fasting for a week it sucked, I thought your were against fasting?? and what supps
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I hear you, I love the extra strength, power and muscle size. I do need to slow down and sharpen up a bit though. You will love the UR-Spray its right up your alley. I am ok ....that which does not kill us makes us stronger eventually I am going to be one strong futher mucker Hope you are doing ok too
    You said it: "that which does not kill us makes us stronger"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I tried intermittent fasting for a week it sucked, I thought your were against fasting?? and what supps
    I changed my views on fasting. Yeah it can be catabolic but its a rapid way to reset your metabolism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I changed my views on fasting. Yeah it can be catabolic but its a rapid way to reset your metabolism.
    Good for insulin sensitivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Good for insulin sensitivity.

    which is tied into just about everything else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    which is tied into just about everything else
    Aye. It can be catabolic for many for various reasons, bad macro intake, too long fasting periods without a proper amino acid pool sustainment (so BCAA's...though people will argue they are not needed at all) , or simply due to genetics. I have seen big dudes do it properly , all macros , times and all (even with short fasting windows IE 16 hours) and still lose mass, and not only fat mass...LBM which kinda beats the point of any diet haha.

    It's all about what works for yah I guess. What do you do Pat? Just curious
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    I've decided to give UR spray a try even though the tabs didn't do a thing for me (even at 18/day). I seem to respond far better to transdermals than tabs. I don't know if it's just me or this applies to everyone. I'm currently on an 11 spray run. I'm in week 5 and it's just now really beginning to kick in. Although I have noticed some leaning effect it seems that it takes about 4 weeks to build in my system enough to see significant results. This is my second run of 11 spray and the results are about the same. I don't seem to be shut down at all. Overall a little expensive but at least it works, unlike 90% of the crap being sold today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Aye. It can be catabolic for many for various reasons, bad macro intake, too long fasting periods without a proper amino acid pool sustainment (so BCAA's...though people will argue they are not needed at all) , or simply due to genetics. I have seen big dudes do it properly , all macros , times and all (even with short fasting windows IE 16 hours) and still lose mass, and not only fat mass...LBM which kinda beats the point of any diet haha.

    It's all about what works for yah I guess. What do you do Pat? Just curious
    i do it for about three days. about 45 g of essential amino acids a day with about 4 teaspoons of coconut oil plus some other nutrition source i cant divulge. And of course lots of Ur spray

    I maintain strength in the gym but stamina suffers for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    i do it for about three days. about 45 g of essential amino acids a day with about 4 teaspoons of coconut oil plus some other nutrition source i cant divulge. And of course lots of Ur spray

    I maintain strength in the gym but stamina suffers for sure
    Training fasted I presume...Hm...EAAs, interesting take, add any Leucine or Leucine Peptides to that mix Pat? And the Coconut Oil seriously sounds like Carb Back Loading Ideology (which I like and support, but my test run with it...damn I gotta get more calculations for the number of carbs right , and the times for it for me I guess, because it didn't go good) Anyhow, if consumed (those fats) on the fast...doesn't it equal to more than 50kCals per hour? Which would break the fast?...Just wondering though. I like the idea of the whole fast not broken due to the belief of increased catochelamines in the system and thus modifying leptin and insulin response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Training fasted I presume...Hm...EAAs, interesting take, add any Leucine or Leucine Peptides to that mix Pat? And the Coconut Oil seriously sounds like Carb Back Loading Ideology (which I like and support, but my test run with it...damn I gotta get more calculations for the number of carbs right , and the times for it for me I guess, because it didn't go good) Anyhow, if consumed (those fats) on the fast...doesn't it equal to more than 50kCals per hour? Which would break the fast?...Just wondering though. I like the idea of the whole fast not broken due to the belief of increased catochelamines in the system and thus modifying leptin and insulin response.
    I don't have the ability to do it. When I was doing intermittent fasting my work performance suffered, I was fixated on breaking the fast and eating. Never mind I was ravenous after and consumed more calories than I would have otherwise. It was all I could think about low carbs works better for me....low carbs and Ur-Spray works amazingly well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I don't have the ability to do it. When I was doing intermittent fasting my work performance suffered, I was fixated on break the fast and eating. Never mind I was ravenous after and consumed more calories than I would have otherwise. It was all I could think about low carbs works better for me....low carbs and Ur-Spray works amazingly well.
    IMO its all about finding what works for you, so you just keep doing what you are doing and keep killing it Truth, you made me a believer of the UR Spray ! I got 4 bottles waiting for me , and waiting for Pat to come out with the caps.

    BTW , how is that going? Any info or ETA on Pat's wiz kid wonder coming out with the more bioavailable UR oral supp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I've decided to give UR spray a try even though the tabs didn't do a thing for me (even at 18/day). I seem to respond far better to transdermals than tabs. I don't know if it's just me or this applies to everyone. I'm currently on an 11 spray run. I'm in week 5 and it's just now really beginning to kick in. Although I have noticed some leaning effect it seems that it takes about 4 weeks to build in my system enough to see significant results. This is my second run of 11 spray and the results are about the same. I don't seem to be shut down at all. Overall a little expensive but at least it works, unlike 90% of the crap being sold today.
    It is a much more bio available form, there have been no negative reviews..try it...you'll like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    IMO its all about finding what works for you, so you just keep doing what you are doing and keep killing it Truth, you made me a believer of the UR Spray ! I got 4 bottles waiting for me , and waiting for Pat to come out with the caps.

    BTW , how is that going? Any info or ETA on Pat's wiz kid wonder coming out with the more bioavailable UR oral supp?
    I am told sometime in August....I also anxiously await.
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