AE and Licogenix....time to recomp (Sponsored)
- 03-09-2012, 07:59 AM
AE and Licogenix....time to recomp (Sponsored)
A big thanks to JD and Athletix for providing me the opportunity to log this. Let me start with a little background.
I am 35 (36 at the end of the month) 5'11" and weighed in at 204lbs. I have been lifting since the late 80's, so I have a pretty consistent routine that I use that has provided me with solid results. Here is my workout routine:
Let me be a bit forthcoming about my legs. I can only work them every now and again. This is at my doctors request. Evidently years ago I destroyed a nerve that travels through my pelvis/hip area into my left thigh. When I do squats consistently, I either lose feeling in my leg entirely or get this annoying burning sensation that typically wakes me up in the middle of the night. I do try to get creative however, so I might vary that around a bit as I go. Additionally, with my job (High School Administrator) I am up at 3:45am and always hit the treadmill prior to lifting. Usually 40+ minutes on the highest incline (12%). Fortunately, I have all the equipment in my basement, so it works well. Just to make this a little easier, my philosophy for my lifting style since I started so early, is to lift as heavy as I can as often as I can. So my workouts will be throwing around as much weight as I can.
I am usually pretty strict with my diet and supplementation. I eat clean almost always, outside of a possible cheat on Saturday nights when my wife and I typically go out. Here are the supplements that I will be using in conjunction with Licogenix:
Amino Energy mixed with DiCM
Shift at night
Caffeine tabs (SNS) in the am
One aspect I will be noting right off the bat will be a comparison between Lico/Erase/Erase Pro. I am just finishing EP this Saturday, which is why I will be starting on Sunday. I am interested to test this based on what I have seen the last 30 days.
My log will officially start on Sunday, at which time I will add before pics to see any physical changes.
Really looking forward to this, and cant wait to get started.
- 03-09-2012, 08:00 AM
Here is the before pic, taken about 5 minutes ago on 3/11. I apologize for my wife's makeup bag in the front
Here is the final pic from 4/6 Weight was 205lbs as of this am
Strength: nothing really noticeable here. On one side, my strength was stable throughout, no real heavy peaks or valleys.
Body comp: big shine here. Weight is increased a bit, and pants are looser. Vascularity was up as well as noted previously. I am quite pleased overall on this end of lico
Joints: Really? If you have followed my log, you know where I stand on this. This was the most pleasant surprise out of anything from this log. It truly felt like a joint supp. I am actually disappointed to be done, and also concerned that I will regress from a joint perspective
Overall: This is a very solid AI. Similar to Erase in terms of body comp, but yet not as strong as Erase Pro. With 6-bromo, Inhibit E and Erase Pro, my joints suffered a bit. Lico counters that well. For the price at NP ($29.99) I would highly recommend this, and will be purchasing a bottle on my own.
This adds a new wrinkle to the AI market and one that will serve Athletix quite well.
Thank you again Athletix and JD
03-09-2012, 08:22 AM
Sub'd. Let's see what this stuff can do!
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03-09-2012, 10:02 AM
I just finished 8 weeks of Erase Pro and I am waiting 4 weeks to cycle out and cycle back for another 8 week run of Erase Pro.
Does Licogenix need to be cycled ? Is it OK between Erase Pro runs ? Too much AI without cycling ?
Maybe I will get that answer from following your log.
03-09-2012, 03:14 PM
That sounds like it can be a pain in the ass, I've been dealing with back issues for over a year now so I def understand how frustrating it can get when stuff like this gets in the way of training. I wish you the best and can't wait to see the effects of Licogenix
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03-09-2012, 03:42 PM
Thanks man. Funny enough, I was a teenager when it started and my damn doc told me it was just my belt was too tight. What a jackass.Originally Posted by JudgementDay
Really looking forward to seeing what this can do.
03-09-2012, 03:44 PM
03-09-2012, 05:35 PM
Cool. Thanks for the response. Still very interested in how your log goes.Originally Posted by JudgementDay
03-09-2012, 05:43 PM
03-10-2012, 10:37 AM
03-10-2012, 11:02 AM
I have used 6 bromo as well as inhibit e.
Lico has my attention due to its other properties.
I took my last erase pro this am, so tomorrow the fun begins.
03-10-2012, 12:24 PM
03-11-2012, 07:35 AM
first dose is down after my typical sunday morning run on the treadmill. Went for 46 minutes at the highest incline. Thank goodness for the ID channel as it keeps me fascinated for the entire time.
Weight at the start of this am was 202lbs. Will take a pre pic shortly.
Today is chest and tris, which I will do this afternoon, and if I have some more energy, maybe another treadmill jaunt.
03-11-2012, 07:53 AM
Subbing.curious to see compared to erase/pro
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03-11-2012, 08:33 AM
03-11-2012, 02:54 PM
Had a real nice chest and tri workout today. Here is the run down
Incline bp warmup (4 sets) sets @ 185 for 5 reps
Flat bp (5 sets) 315lbs 2 reps <hit the wall hard here>
Push Press (3 sets) 275lbs
Incline flys (4 sets) 65lbs sets of 8
JM press (5 sets) 225lbs rep range of 5-7
Close grip bp (4 sets) 225lbs <again got fried to hell at this point>
Went back on the treadmill for 30 minutes again at 12% incline
Nothing of note yet from the licogenix. Will hit the second dose with dinner tonight
03-11-2012, 03:31 PM
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03-11-2012, 07:57 PM
03-11-2012, 08:50 PM
03-12-2012, 05:09 AM
Alright, just finished my morning workout.....
Arny Presses (4 sets) 65lbs sets 8-10 reps
Seated db laterals (4 sets) 30lbs*
Seated rear laterals (4 sets) 30lbs*
Standing calf raises (8 sets) up to 225lbs sets of 15
sadly I need to wear a belt for this due to back issues
Nothing of note yet, hit the treadmill prior to the lift, which is my means of waking up as early as I do.
I do feel good however, regardless of the early hour.
Have a LONG day at work today, wont be home till 10pm tonight. Will update if anything to note during the day
03-12-2012, 06:19 AM
ok ae im coming in here and stomping all over your thread! God is Lord!!!!!! ha muahahahaha..... im jk ae.... im sure you remember me. glad to see your doing a log, I know im late but will be watching for results my friend.
03-12-2012, 06:20 AM
03-12-2012, 07:09 AM
As has been taught to me by the great Flying Spaghetti Monster, all are welcome
In terms of my experience, I actually started thinking back to it, and didnt realize that I had tried as many as I did.
Erase, Erase Pro, IBE Formex, 6-bromo, Inhibit E, Formadrol Extreme
The only popular one that I have not had a chance to try has been triazole, but Lico is quite intriguing to me as a result of the joint and antioxidant properties.
03-12-2012, 02:51 PM
Something to note....this is ay 2 so I am not source if this is from Liz or not, but my forearms are more vascular than normal. I am actually just sitting in my office right now, and with my sleeves rolled up its an awesome site (for me)
03-13-2012, 05:30 AM
today is an off day, so no workout to report. Did take my first dose this morning with my shake. Will note any news today
03-13-2012, 06:35 PM
nothing of note from the off day. Tomorrow morning is back and bi's with some cardio. Will note the workout in the am
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
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