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Tomahawk's takes on a cut with Licogenix and more

  1.  03-09-2012  01:15 AM
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    Tomahawk's takes on a cut with Licogenix and more


    I want to start out by thanking Judgement Day and the whole Athletix team for allowing me to log this.

    I got my bottle of Licogenix in on the 8th. Didnt get it till late afternoon so I decided to wait till the 9th to start dosing. Interested to try this out because it has so many extra benefits other than just being an AI.

    Now a little bit about me.
    Training experience: 9 years
    Age: 23
    Height: 5'7"ish?
    Weight: 230

    Diet:
    I have been doing Lean Gains. So far it has been working well. It suits me well and seems to help with my goals. On lifting days I will take in more carbs. Try and keep my food selection Paleo when it suits me. Definitely not hardcore into the Paleo. I have to have my Jasmine rice.

    Training is always changing. I have a hard time picking one method to the madness. Right now I feel like Dorian Yates Blood and Guts will be fun to try out. I tend to excel at lower volume workouts. The only bad thing is my workout partner is a high volume junkie. Will have to reign him in as far as sets and number of exercises. We usually see eye to eye when it comes to lifting. I swear he is probably one of the fierest competitors when it comes to lifting. No matter what I lift he tries to match or better it.

    Cardio will be done when possible. Most likely on nonlifting days and days where I do chest/biceps and shoulders/triceps. I dont like the idea of doing cardio on days I do legs or back. Plus it will be done when I wake up in a fasted state.

    Other supps:
    Ursobolic Acid, Fat-Free, Recompadrol, Craze, CLA, and of course staples.

    FINAL REVIEW:
    Ok time for the final review. I suck at these just a fair warning.

    Strength on this was very good. Seemed to add weight on my lift each week. Basically had to guess what I was going to use each workout it was increasing that much. In addition to strength I really seemed to harden up. More muscular than I thought possible in such a short time on an AI. Seemed like the gda properties helped keep me lean when I woke up after killing some carbs post workout in the PM.

    The thing that set this apart most though was the joint pain. I didnt have any. Which anyone who runs AIs knows it is a fine line between being effective and killing joints. This alone makes it worth a shot in my book.

    Would be interested to see how it performed at a higher dosing for an extended period of time.



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    Hey for the lean gains how do you have the set up, like when I did it I had a pre-workout meal, than 2 meals after, but I see a lot of guys doing a fasted workout on it, are you doing fasted workouts?
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    Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
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    Hey for the lean gains how do you have the set up, like when I did it I had a pre-workout meal, than 2 meals after, but I see a lot of guys doing a fasted workout on it, are you doing fasted workouts?
    Right now I have only been doing 2 large post workout meals. Before my workout I will drink some BCAAs. Will start sipping on BCAAs during cardio too. Dont like the full feeling when I lift. Plus when I break my fast all bets are off. I try to eat healthy/lean things first to help satisfy that intial craving.

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    So anyone think there will be a problem taking Licogenix on an empty stomach? When I take my first dose I will still be fasting.

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    I havnt had any issues taking it either way.
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    Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    I havnt had any issues taking it either way.
    Ok was just wondering if they had any input. GDAs dont usually mess me up if I dont eat within a certain time frame.

    I am really going to be putting Licogenix to the test. These workouts are going to be fierce. I am hurting today.

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    Ok tom..... Lets see how this log goes! by the way.... Where you go on cod?!

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    Originally Posted by madds87
    Ok tom..... Lets see how this log goes! by the way.... Where you go on cod?!
    Thanks for joining in man. I haven't sent out any invites haha.
    I thought I told you I was only renting it. Ended u being super late returning it with a $20 late fee haha.

    Had a great chest workout earlier. Will post about it more later. About to watch "Drive."

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    Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Thanks for joining in man. I haven't sent out any invites haha.
    I thought I told you I was only renting it. Ended u being super late returning it with a $20 late fee haha.

    Had a great chest workout earlier. Will post about it more later. About to watch "Drive."
    Let me know how drive is, ive stayed away thus far due to others saying its not to good, but let me know what you think about it.
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    Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Let me know how drive is, ive stayed away thus far due to others saying its not to good, but let me know what you think about it.
    I thought it was a good movie. Not exactly what I was expecting. Multiple ways of interpreting the title of the movie. Plus a number of crazies. I would say it was good enough to watch.

    Alright workout timeashamed of my weights haha)

    10 minute warm up on elliptical
    Decline bench
    Incline DB
    Flat DB fly
    Incline Fly
    Rest
    Concentration DB curl
    BB curl
    Iso machine preacher curl(?) superset with crunches

    Felt a nice solid pump from the workout. This should work well my goals. I like a low volume workout. If you follow DY workout you will notice a few exercises were added though.

    Bulk of calories from beef casserole and pot roast with jasmine rice.

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    Have you any experience with other otc ais?

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    Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    Have you any experience with other otc ais?
    Yes, off the top of my head: Erase, 6-bromo, topical form, atd

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    Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Yes, off the top of my head: Erase, 6-bromo, topical form, atd
    Your comparism will be interesting

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    lemme know about your joints homie.... erase dried my knees out so bad that im still achy and its been three months since last cycle...

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    aha don't be ashamed of your weights, your a powerhouse Tom!
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    yeah tom, your a powerhouse bro. no worries dog.

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    Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    lemme know about your joints homie.... erase dried my knees out so bad that im still achy and its been three months since last cycle...
    Ya Erase even low dose can do a number on my joints. Mainly my elbows get effected. So far no complaints.

    Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    aha don't be ashamed of your weights, your a powerhouse Tom!
    I WAS a powerhouse maybe haha.

    Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    yeah tom, your a powerhouse bro. no worries dog.
    Maybe in a little while I can claim that status again. In fact this girl at a party I went to brough it up. Basically these guys were slapping the HELL out of her little booty. Later we were standing around talking while smoking a hookah. She asked me not to spank her ass. I point blank said I feel bad for you haha. She is a petite girl and they were getting some solid shots in. She said "thanks because I have seen you on Facebook." All I could think about is the fact I am so weak now haha.

    Today I went to the gym and did about 30 minutes on the ellitpical. Get that blood flowing to aid in recovery. I was 25 plus minutes into it and out of the corner of my eye I see this petite woman standing at the door. Had been watching her the whole time. Only decent looking female there. She had left her keyes so I hopped off and got them for her. Get back to the machine and it had completely restarted. I did another 2 minutes and said screw it.

    Alright now fastforward to the party. Decided I was going to be healthy. Took with me an apple, tuna, and almonds. Was planning on not drinking, but ended up playing one game of beer pong so no big deal. Still in my 8 hour window. At the end of it all they decide to go to Waffle House. I am driving home and before I get to the light that Waffle House the light turns red. I took it as a sign to go to Waffle House. Was tempted to eat, but decided it wasnt worth it. I would say the night turned alright.

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