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    Andromass V3 and Androdrive for 8 weeks…..


    1. Dosing will 3caps AM and AD at 5am
    2. Dosing will be 12pm 3 caps AM and AD

    Goal:
    Gain 8lb of muscle and lose 3% body fat

    Training:
    Basic Push pull exercise routine/with band training the 1st 4 weeks
    The next 4 weeks will be heavy compound movement’s exercise lots of DL, BB hack squats; squats-DB cleans and so on.
    My cardio will be swimming 2 miles 3 times a week.

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    I have been out of the gym since 1st of November then had to get surgery so if the doc clears me to work out on Thursday I will start this on DEC 31…. I need to get back in to my routine I will slowly up my cals to 4000 ( fing hard to do) over the 8 weeks….

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    Subbed and you don't have to split up the AM dosing. In fact, it's recommended to do 1x/day dosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic
    1. Dosing will 3caps AM and AD at 5am
    2. Dosing will be 12pm 3 caps AM and AD

    Current weight is 193lb Body fat is 18%

    Goal:
    Gain 8lb of muscle and lose 3% body fat

    Training:
    Basic Push pull exercise routine/with band training the 1st 4 weeks
    The next 4 weeks will be heavy compound movement’s exercise lots of DL, BB hack squats; squats-DB cleans and so on.
    My cardio will be swimming 2 miles 3 times a week.

    Support Supps:
    Omega from Animal (fish pills) + Krill oil
    Flex ( for joint)
    Animal Pak
    hawthorn berry ( started this last week)
    Toco-8

    PCT : 4 weeks
    TRS stack ( - TCF1--- That shi$$ gives me the runs)
    Test Booster (hcgenerate)
    Torem (if I need it) I want to stay all Natural if I can

    I have been out of the gym since 1st of November then had to get surgery so if the doc clears me to work out on Thursday I will start this on DEC 31…. I need to get back in to my routine I will slowly up my cals to 4000 ( fing hard to do) over the 8 weeks….

    if you folks have question or comments let me know....
    I'll tag along for this.

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    as far as TCF 1 giving you the runs or upset stomach, i have been hearing of report of Lit up doing the same thing. Been hearing it with DAA for a while but i have never experienced it before
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    as far as TCF 1 giving you the runs or upset stomach, i have been hearing of report of Lit up doing the same thing. Been hearing it with DAA for a while but i have never experienced it before
    I have a tub of lit up yes I can say for sure my @$$ runs like a river when taken it..
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    I am starting my run.. Today... PP I am very pump to see how the AdromassV3 and Androdrive will work.. I am going to give this log and my training 110% no BS ... I do not have a diet plan well am using some principles from Tom Venuto but over all I eat clean all the time, it's a way of life for me,wife and son - All grass feed beef and free range chickens ...... Now hard part is _I have stop protein Shakes--- Now for me to get 4000 cals with only food is going to be fing hard for me to do... So I may end up buying a tub of some
    TruNutrition Science---

    I will be doisng the androdrive 2x day -- Andromass once a day per PP


    I will have before pic, 4week pic and 8weeks pic+measurement


    goals that I will see in the gym:

    BB Squats:
    350lb for 8-10 reps ( use do this but have not done it in a ll time) most I do now is 315 on a good day

    BB Hack squats:
    315lb 8-10 reps - Most I have done is 250lb

    Flat Bench press:
    315lb 6-8 reps-I hate this exercise never any good at this sh@#@@ the most I have done 315lb like 2 reps big deal

    Abs:
    I use to have them showing all time--- getting my 12 pack back













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    Nice intro.
    Why did you eliminate protein shakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Nice intro.
    Why did you eliminate protein shakes?
    I feel that we should be able to get what we need with food, we need to create a plan and stick with it- What I have notice- the best I could do on a constant is 3600 cal a day with out shakes.. That is a crap load of food to bring to work and prepare... I see folks on forms saying thaey doing 4500 cals Please show me what the fuc@#@# you are eating and drinking because I know that is crap load of food even with a shake!!!

    Shake might be needed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic

    I feel that we should be able to get what we need with food, we need to create a plan and stick with it- What I have notice- the best I could do on a constant is 3600 cal a day with out shakes.. That is a crap load of food to bring to work and prepare... I see folks on forms saying thaey doing 4500 cals Please show me what the fuc@#@# you are eating and drinking because I know that is crap load of food even with a shake!!!

    Shake might be needed!
    Nice.
    I'm trying to cut some fat.
    Keeping track in My Fitness Pal starting at 2000 calories.
    Staying under 250g carbs
    70g fat
    185g protein

    I think that's a good starting point. I will adjust as weeks go on. I think since my BMR is 1900 and I exercise I should be losing fat. Goals seem attainable.


    Back on topic, yeah you must be trying to put on that mass, you're right it's hard to eat over 3k unless you introduce peanut butter often and a lot of shakes lol.
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    Today was shoulders and Abs and Forearm

    Shoulder Seated press:
    40/15
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    exercise: If want me to write my routine down I can...

    Today was a test to see how the shoulder will hold up to the strain... Feels good...
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    Pretty mean weights on the dumb bell front raise
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I already know.... lol
    lol, for some reason it unsubbed me from this thread.

    I wanna run this stack. Im either doing AM/AD, or AL/AD. depending on how I feel in about 1 day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag
    lol, for some reason it unsubbed me from this thread.

    I wanna run this stack. Im either doing AM/AD, or AL/AD. depending on how I feel in about 1 day.
    U still got more to order lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    U still got more to order lol
    Still didnt hit the order button yet on the PP page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Still didnt hit the order button yet on the PP page.
    What's n the cart?
    How much is shipping something like that to Japan and how long does it take?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    What's n the cart?
    3 bottles of AL, 2 AM, 2 ADs, 1 toco 8. Either Im dropping the AL, or the AM. depending of if I think I should cut in summer, or still bulk haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    3 bottles of AL, 2 AM, 2 ADs, 1 toco 8. Either Im dropping the AL, or the AM. depending of if I think I should cut in summer, or still bulk haha.
    If u don't have a lot of muscle bulk.
    I read muscle burns fat and u most eat I'm surplus to gain muscle, so if it's lackin I would eat, that's what I'm trying to
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    My Measurements: + my work out for today-1/2/12

    Arms:
    @ Rest-Left 13in Flex 15inch------ Right Rest 13 in Flex 15 3/8
    Back 17in (this is the top of my back)
    Chest 40 1/2inch
    Legs left 22½ right 22¾
    Weight: 194lb


    I have taken a pic today before the gym so I do have a before pic, I will post it up on week 4 so everyone can see the before and after for weeks 4.

    I am taken it slow for the 1st week I will be adjusting my works as I go along so it will be more fluid: I was drained after the DL, but over all I am getting back in gym shape- as I stated before I did not work out for month and some.. so this is a good start for my second day back body feels good.


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    1.I was thinking of getting one more bottle of Andromass so i can dose 12 pills for the last 4 weeks
    2. I have also order the Androlean ( coming in Feb 1 Or shipping) I want to add this to my last 4 weeks of my run @ 6 pills

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    damn 12 pills mass with 6 pills lean thats gona be intense
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    damn 12 pills mass with 6 pills lean thats gona be intense
    and colorful. I'm jealous of yellow and green and red pills.....mine are black. I feel somehow cheated?
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    In regards to the splitting of the dosage (I noticed you mentioned this early on).....starting week 3 I'm splitting the 6 pill dosage 3 at ~11AM and 3 at ~5PM. Worked well the first few days....no problem sleeping and much easier on the stomach not taking 6 or more big softgels on an empty pre-WO stomach. If I were taking the amount of pills you will be taking/are taking? I'd split it up for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    In regards to the splitting of the dosage (I noticed you mentioned this early on).....starting week 3 I'm splitting the 6 pill dosage 3 at ~11AM and 3 at ~5PM. Worked well the first few days....no problem sleeping and much easier on the stomach not taking 6 or more big softgels on an empty pre-WO stomach. If I were taking the amount of pills you will be taking/are taking? I'd split it up for sure.

    So the split of the androdrive--- is working- will see the long term how it is working---

    If I get the green light to dose 12 mass and 6 Lean+ I am still during Androdrive=24 fing pill to drop in a day...

    i was thinking of doing something like this for the dose:


    6 Lean with 6 mass in am ( can hear my tummy saying no eat fool before you a$$$ to late)
    drop the Androdro drive and add in transaderm for 4 pumps in the am
    noon 6 more mass= islandmagic!!!!!!!!! baby!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic

    So the split of the androdrive--- is working- will see the long term how it is working---

    If I get the green light to dose 12 mass and 6 Lean+ I am still during Androdrive=24 fing pill to drop in a day...

    i was thinking of doing something like this for the dose:

    6 Lean with 6 mass in am ( can hear my tummy saying no eat fool before you a$$$ to late)
    drop the Androdro drive and add in transaderm for 4 pumps in the am
    noon 6 more mass= islandmagic!!!!!!!!! baby!!!
    I'm curious to see how that turns out for ya lol.
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    your signature= yes you are over stock on AM lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic View Post
    So the split of the androdrive--- is working- will see the long term how it is working---

    If I get the green light to dose 12 mass and 6 Lean+ I am still during Androdrive=24 fing pill to drop in a day...

    i was thinking of doing something like this for the dose:


    6 Lean with 6 mass in am ( can hear my tummy saying no eat fool before you a$$$ to late)
    drop the Androdro drive and add in transaderm for 4 pumps in the am
    noon 6 more mass= islandmagic!!!!!!!!! baby!!!
    yeah you're gonna have to split it with all those pills lol. I take the 2nd 3 of the day with food and the first three on an empty stomache first thing in the morning. I'll be going with 6 lean and 3 hard when they release the lean.....I intend to split them at that time as well. Just seems better to split the dosage and keep the levels elevated over the 24 hour period best you can....as long as it does not interrupt sleep....even if you get shutdown more with split dosing than once a day dosing? you are going on PCT anyways....so little shutdown or more shutdown....you gotta run PCT either way. Might as well keep it elevated for longer each day. plus those pills aren't exactly pleasant in large doses on an empty stomach esp with DAA and various aminos thrown into the mix. I find 3-4 feel much better than 6 or more at once.
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    Do you feel the pills upset your stomach at all? Is it better to take them with food or empty stomach in your experience?
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    your signature= yes you are over stock on AM lol
    Plus the two I have on the way from you.


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    I like mine with food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Do you feel the pills upset your stomach at all? Is it better to take them with food or empty stomach in your experience?
    If I take 6 of them along with DAA and aminos on an empty stomach pre-WO.....it is "uncomfortable", but not any pains or thinking i'm gonna throw up lol....but I think split up with lesser dosage of 3-4 at at time it is better on the stomach. with food seems the best, to avoid any possible stomach issues...BUT I had the feeling the food may interfere with the absorption.....so I figure half on empty stomach and half with food later was the best trade-off overall. I'd like to hear from island and get his opinion. Mine are androhards.....but I suppose there is no difference from one variety to the other as far as stomach upset goes....same delivery system.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    If I take 6 of them along with DAA and aminos on an empty stomach pre-WO.....it is "uncomfortable", but not any pains or thinking i'm gonna throw up lol....but I think split up with lesser dosage of 3-4 at at time it is better on the stomach. with food seems the best, to avoid any possible stomach issues...BUT I had the feeling the food may interfere with the absorption.....so I figure half on empty stomach and half with food later was the best trade-off overall. I'd like to hear from island and get his opinion. Mine are androhards.....but I suppose there is no difference from one variety to the other as far as stomach upset goes....same delivery system.....
    If taking them without food is the most optimal for delivery purposes I would be able to endure slight discomfort for a better result. However, they claim it does not matter food vs no food though I wonder if this is 100% accurate.
  

  
 

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