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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I was thinking that as well....sometimes people guesstimate too much or have poor calorie counting skills
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I was thinking that as well....sometimes people guesstimate too much or have poor calorie counting skills
    I do have poor Calorie counting skills--- So I do keep a food log so know what is messing with my gut, since both you and Rodja are asking me you sure you eating that much-- I logon to my fitday account too see how much cal I was eating a day sure as shi@#@ I was only eating 3200-3400 cal day for the last two weeks... So last night with the help from the wife I got a good food plan to get me up to 3800-4000 cal that I will need to make the gains I want... Also Rodja is correct My body comp is diff from when I started I am more lean then ever but I look wider too... so I will post a before pic and a pic of me today..... But still the androdrive is killing my appetite


    Last thing I realize, I do **** load of cardio.. I play League basketball 2X a week I play pickup basketball on sat Swim 2 miles on Sat and sunday
    Every day I take my dog for 3 mile walk too
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    This a pic of my back 2 weeks ago 17inch today 19in... I say yes it is working need to eat more!
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    Thursday is all ways hard day to get a workout.... But I got a good shoulder workout.... I am feeling pretty good too.... The stack is starting to kick in that is plus.... Eat eat eat that is what I have do more of..

    I need a good weight gainer suggestion please

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    seated bb press
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    105/10
    115/6
    115/6


    Ground base high pull
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    270/12
    360/12
    360/12

    DB SEATED PRESS
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    Yeah you're really active, probably burn an assload of them calories with all that activity.....as for a weight gainer? I haven't needed that in ages Aaron was messing with that type of stuff not to long ago. But I recall I used to use whole milk not water, usually a powder heavy with maltodextrin and protein (I used to like champion nutrition heavyweight gainer 900 when it was in the jug with the side handle on it, in chocolate....also the cheap weider mega mass or whatever back in the day)...throw in things like bananas or some type of oats or oatmeal or whatever carb....usually the milk with the powder plus some kind of fruit is good for calories....the milk and powder alone hold lots of cals.....
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    Yeah bro!

    Top gainers I have user was

    Serious Mass (half a scoop is a great value)

    Up Your Mass (watch out for soy)

    Real Gains (mixes well in less than 8oz water with shaker cup)

    ---If True Mass taste as good as Syntha-6 try that 4 sure.
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    I am not a big fan of gainers, but I have been using Monster Mass that I picked up real cheap because work has been taking away from food time, so it has helped with keeping the calories up. It is a bit sweet tasting, but most of them are.
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    Ive been looking for a good gainer myself... I try my best to eat as much "real" food as possible... but to be honest it gets to the point where I need some extra help from shakes... i just wish there were better carb sources chosen for the gainers besides malto which almost all of them use.. i like malto after a workout not so much for the rest of the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid
    Ive been looking for a good gainer myself... I try my best to eat as much "real" food as possible... but to be honest it gets to the point where I need some extra help from shakes... i just wish there were better carb sources chosen for the gainers besides malto which almost all of them use.. i like malto after a workout not so much for the rest of the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
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    nice no malto.. rare for a gainer.. any other gainers that you know of that use good quality carbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid

    nice no malto.. rare for a gainer.. any other gainers that you know of that use good quality carbs?
    Right now that's the only 1 I know of.
    A personal favorite as well... 5 pounds for $30 not the cheapest but not the most expensive. Only thing is soy protein but it should be too bad.

    My choice gainers are Serious Mass, filling as hell and lots of carbs not my #1 pick but it's in my top 3 I'd say... Then the Up Your Mass, and True Mass... Cause syntha-6 is tasty.
    Real Gains is great too because u can get a 10 pound bag under $60 and it's 31 servings and a big plus is u can make a whole shake in 8oz of water perfect to have a meal shortly after.

    People also tend to like Muscle Juice and Quick Mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Right now that's the only 1 I know of.
    A personal favorite as well... 5 pounds for $30 not the cheapest but not the most expensive. Only thing is soy protein but it should be too bad.

    My choice gainers are Serious Mass, filling as hell and lots of carbs not my #1 pick but it's in my top 3 I'd say... Then the Up Your Mass, and True Mass... Cause syntha-6 is tasty.
    Real Gains is great too because u can get a 10 pound bag under $60 and it's 31 servings and a big plus is u can make a whole shake in 8oz of water perfect to have a meal shortly after.

    People also tend to like Muscle Juice and Quick Mass.
    yeah those are all solid suggestions for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid

    yeah those are all solid suggestions for sure
    Get u 1 and replace your normal shake with 2 of these shakes a day.
    Try serious mass it's a great value if u don't mind the carbs
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    i have tried all of the weight gainers in the past before and the one that i LOVE is Iso Mass
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    i have tried all of the weight gainers in the past before and the one that i LOVE is Iso Mass
    Ill have to give that a try... BTW nice sig too man
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    day 20- 3 days of sick

    Very solid bi and tri workout.. I felt strong and every set I did was slow with good form 20 sec rest between sets... I will add 3 more exercise to this routine next week... I am "ON" I was focus in the gym no headphone just me and the iron it was awesome... also my arms are huge right now I am not kidding!!!!!!!! PP you shi@#@# works!~


    Double Arm High Cable Curls
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    60/12
    60/10
    60/10
    70/8

    close grip V-bar
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    90/8

    Incline Bench Alternate Dumbbell Curls
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    40/8
    45/7
    45/6

    Decline Close Grip Bench Presses
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    155/10
    165/8
    165/6

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic
    Very solid bi and tri workout.. I felt strong and every set I did was slow with good form 20 sec rest between sets... I will add 3 more exercise to this routine next week... I am "ON" I was focus in the gym no headphone just me and the iron it was awesome... also my arms are huge right now I am not kidding!!!!!!!! PP you shi@#@# works!~

    Double Arm High Cable Curls
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    60/12
    60/10
    60/10
    70/8

    close grip V-bar
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    155/10
    165/8
    165/6

    Single Arm Preacher Curls
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    35/12
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    That's awesome PP is solid.

    So what time frame would u say it took u to feel on?

    I say around start of 4th week for me,... Maybe sometime in the 3rd week.
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    OP, any increase in size yet?
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    Do you get any shoulder irritation from decline close grip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Do you get any shoulder irritation from decline close grip?
    i know your not asking me, but when i do close grip, its on flat and i dont have any issues unless i go really heavy....that hurts my wrists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Do you get any shoulder irritation from decline close grip?
    Yes little bit in the left shoulder--- It's the left the that is giving the most problems... It hinders some of my workout.. any help would be great... I do not think I would get to goal for my bench...
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic View Post
    Yes little bit in the left shoulder--- It's the left the that is giving the most problems... It hinders some of my workout.. any help would be great... I do not think I would get to goal for my bench...
    I wouldn't do close grip decline, I only use it on flat and incline. Look into JM presses and heavy weighted dips

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    Decline Bench press plus dips are excellent for chest. I've seen much better development using them together. 4 sets of each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic View Post
    PP you shi@#@# works!~
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    i know your not asking me, but when i do close grip, its on flat and i dont have any issues unless i go really heavy....that hurts my wrists.
    I feel it is just too awkward of a lift for me. Any lift that I consistently feel strain on (and not in a good way) I tend to shy away from.
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    day 23-3 day for being sick
    Back... I am strong today:

    Stack so far:
    I am alpha dog
    I have a woody when I wake lunch night and at meetings too
    I am getting thicker
    The weight is get lighter for me
    Training is becoming fun once more ( lost my drive a while back)
    No side
    Swimming is become so much fun I go lot and lots of endurance this includes basketball too I have been running young buck to the ground!!!!

    Every thing I did was slow my back is on fire right now!!!!! I have read how folks complain about the cost for andro but honestly it is not to much cash to get the results you want as long you eat good train hard and you will be rewarded with amazing results... As I am seeing now... Thank you PP for these great products!!


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    160/8
    210/5


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    I took 6 andro drive at 5:30am i am high!!! 6 to much!!!!!
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    Day 24-3 days for being sick:

    Leg day-- I want to concentrate BB hack and BB Squats. Knee is bothering me from basketball tweak it yesterday. Also did sprints outside after my leg routine too I live in Mass and it was 60 outside... So I had too.. I am spent right now!!!!!

    also I will stick to 245 or 250 on the BB hack my form was bad for the 315
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
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    I feel it is just too awkward of a lift for me. Any lift that I consistently feel strain on (and not in a good way) I tend to shy away from.
    and thats how it should be. dont want to get hurt.
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    Day 25-3 days of being sick.;.;. Chest day.. I forgot my phone so I did not write it down....


    But what I can say is that I did DB incline press with 95 for 3 reps that to me is kick @$$ I have not done that in a long time--- I also did DB incline with 70 for 12 reps (I have never done that many reps, the most I have done for reps 8).
    . I am being to see the effects of my stack working.. The only department that is not working is recovery, this part is non existing I am sore.
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    This was a related video when I watched yours. Figured I would share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post


    This was a related video when I watched yours. Figured I would share.
    wow that chick was hot, she should do porno's though....I was disappointed it didn't end the way I hoped it would
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    Day 26 and 27 I took off Family stuff... Sat and Sunday is my Cardio ....

    By the way my wife is having our second boy in June... I am so pump right now... I need to work harder now to keep up with those boys...
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic
    Day 26 and 27 I took off Family stuff... Sat and Sunday is my Cardio ....

    By the way my wife is having our second boy in June... I am so pump right now... I need to work harder now to keep up with those boys...
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    last thing starting on 30th I will dosing 9 AM a day! i have eating 3900 cals a day just food.. My current weight is 195...
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic View Post
    Day 26 and 27 I took off Family stuff... Sat and Sunday is my Cardio ....

    By the way my wife is having our second boy in June... I am so pump right now... I need to work harder now to keep up with those boys...
    Congrats bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandmagic View Post
    Day 26 and 27 I took off Family stuff... Sat and Sunday is my Cardio ....

    By the way my wife is having our second boy in June... I am so pump right now... I need to work harder now to keep up with those boys...
    congratz!!
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    Day 30
    So I am finishing week 4 as promised pic and new measurement... Be kind to me you baster.. the wife say and plenty of folks say I am bigger and get more define so I will take it!!!

    Good workout today.. Back is feeling real good!!!!! And the iron is so light I was freaking out I wanted to go so heavy today but i did not- I had great form and did 2 sec pause for everything.... Honestly I think you need two bottles of AM to get the full affect.... 4 week is not enough time... Androdrive is very good -focus is just great plus I use a none stim pre drink too wow what a combo... any who I love this run!

    The 1st two pic are before pic and the two bottom pic are after I look bigger in the before but hey measurements do not lie!


    [QUOTE=islandmagic;3156578]My Measurements: + my work out for today-1/2/12

    Arms:@ Rest-Left 13in Flex 15inch------ Right Rest 13 in Flex 15 3/8
    Back 17in (this is the top of my back)
    Chest 40 1/2inch
    Legs left 22½ right 22¾
    Weight: 194lb


    Current Arms:@ Rest-Left 13 5/8 in Flex 15.5inch------ Right Rest 14 in Flex 16
    Back 19.2in (this is the top of my back)
    Chest 42
    Legs left 23 right 23 1/4
    Weight: 199lb I weighed myself this am when I woke up


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    200/5


    incline lever row wide
    90/12
    100/12
    110/10
    120/8
    135/6


    Iso lat row
    180/10
    180/10
    180/10
    180/10




    DB ROW
    80/8
    80/8
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