I Need2BuildMuscle With Transaderm

**holmes215** · 10-06-2011 08:25 PM

How about Novedex XT actually at a low dose? I know its a ****ty AI but as a side supp in this case at 1 cap a day?

**RickRock13** · 10-06-2011 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by holmes215

How about Novedex XT actually at a low dose? I know its a ****ty AI but as a side supp in this case at 1 cap a day?

Novedex XT is actually pretty effective at lowering estrogen....unfortunately its also pretty good at lowering libido too. I didn't want anything to do with my wife while on that stuff. If you already have it, then you could use it, but if you have to purchase something just go with Erase or Formastanozol

**holmes215** · 10-06-2011 09:25 PM

yea I may run Erase PCT, I am thinking low dose Novedex to combat estro on the cycle. And yea libido can be bad but I've used a high dose before and gotten by, so I will make do since its already on my shelf

**thebigt** · 10-07-2011 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by holmes215

yea I was thinking formestane possibly. I had half a bottle about a month ago but it went bad because it sat around for over a year

i doubt it went bad, a common occurance with formestane products is that if they sit for a long time they tend to go out of solution[ingrdients will seperate]...if you hold the bottle under really hot water for a few minutes then shake the hell out of it you should be good to go. the heat won't effect the product, btw.

trust me on this, i have left bottles sit for well over a year and this has worked well for me!!!

good luck.

**holmes215** · 10-07-2011 04:22 PM

OK, it was about 1/4 full anyway so I did chuck it a week back, it was having issues absorbing probably because of going out of solution, but either way I am going to run 1 cap Novedex per day. Today I kept the Transaderm at 3 pumps and dosed after my gym session. I still seem to be having more side effects than anything. High BP and increased HR when active are a killer along with a little water retention, but I will plow through and see in a few days how its going

**holmes215** · 10-08-2011 01:50 PM

Day 7

Back

Pull ups (2 min rest between sets) kin between sets did weighted abs and decline crunches

20
15
12
12
10

1 arm BB bent over row

bar+25x15
bar+50x12
bar+70x10
bar+50x15 with downset

chin up grip pull downs
180x10
200x10
200x8
200x7

Wide grip pull downs (45 sec rest)
150x12
150x10
160x9

row machine
150x10
170x10
170x12
150x10

Planks
BW+45 x 1:15 and 1 minute

BB curl
75x10
75x10
75x10
85x9

overall a pretty good workout. Had a little headache but no big issue at 3 pumps, after my workout I put 4 on today so we will see how it goes.

**RickRock13** · 10-08-2011 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by holmes215

OK, it was about 1/4 full anyway so I did chuck it a week back, it was having issues absorbing probably because of going out of solution, but either way I am going to run 1 cap Novedex per day. Today I kept the Transaderm at 3 pumps and dosed after my gym session. I still seem to be having more side effects than anything. High BP and increased HR when active are a killer along with a little water retention, but I will plow through and see in a few days how its going

Another thing is make sure you are getting plenty of water in, and plenty of fish oil too. Both of those things can also contribute to lower blood pressure. Bananas or a good source of potassium will also help. Its weird that this is the first time I've heard of BP issues on Transaderm, but everyone reacts to things differently.

**holmes215** · 10-08-2011 04:37 PM

Yea it is odd because even a heavier ph cycle in the past didn't jack it up much. Yea I'm taking 4 gms of fish oils 1.5 gallons of water and some potassium in my multi

**holmes215** · 10-09-2011 09:20 PM

Day 8

Chest and shoulders

DB bench press triset with 6 inches and side planks

130x12
150x12
170x12
190x12
190x12 ****PR for 12 reps with DB

Incline Bench press triset with hanging leg raise and reverse crunch

150x8 for 4 sets, shoulders felt shot for some reason

upright rows triset with pushups and calf raises

90x10
90x10
100x10
100x8

I felt great today during my workout but had to rush it because of a busy day, so I didn't get everything done, but progress is being made. I do need to cut back the calories a bit though, the last two days I ate 3300+ calories due to the increased hunger brought about by being on an anabolic. The water retention seems to have stabilized and maybe cut back a little bit with the addition of an AI.

**gymrat827** · 10-09-2011 09:52 PM

Glad things are looking up for you. Transderm with a low dosed AI is the way to go IMO

**RickRock13** · 10-10-2011 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by holmes215

Day 8

Chest and shoulders

DB bench press triset with 6 inches and side planks

130x12
150x12
170x12
190x12
190x12 ****PR for 12 reps with DB

Incline Bench press triset with hanging leg raise and reverse crunch

150x8 for 4 sets, shoulders felt shot for some reason

upright rows triset with pushups and calf raises

90x10
90x10
100x10
100x8

I felt great today during my workout but had to rush it because of a busy day, so I didn't get everything done, but progress is being made. I do need to cut back the calories a bit though, the last two days I ate 3300+ calories due to the increased hunger brought about by being on an anabolic. The water retention seems to have stabilized and maybe cut back a little bit with the addition of an AI.

Nice numbers on the DB's bro. Adding in the AI is a good move, and that will reflect in drying out some. You should notice that in your appearance

**holmes215** · 10-11-2011 07:32 PM

Day 9

Bi's tri's and forearms

Felt good to finally do bi's and tri's by themselves for once. I did reach a new record for myself on the EZ Bar with standing curls and that was 8 reps at 115 lbs. Still have not noticed mass increase in the arms but wouldn't expect that in a week. Kept it at 4 pumps again today and not sure if I will go back to 5 or not.

Day 10

Legs (Sorta) and traps

I am noticing that my cardio capacity has gone down a bit due to higher BP and heart rate. Pre-cycle I was able to do a 6:30 minute mile on the treadmill whereas now I struggle to stay at a 7 minute pace for over 3 minutes straight. I couldn't do traditional legs because I have a real bad know in my hip/glute, so I could not squat. I did however do 6 sets at 10 reps of leg extensions and 4 sets of hamstring curls along with some bodyweight squats to stretch. Traps I did about 12 sets of shrugs in various forms, I need to get my mid summer traps back as they have shrunk over the past month or so. Either way besides deminished cardio output the Transaderm seems to be doing a good job, especially with increasing hunger.

**thebigt** · 10-11-2011 07:58 PM

yeah, the increased appetite is for real....

**RickRock13** · 10-11-2011 08:23 PM

Very nice bro! That appetite increase can be a good or bad thing I guess depending on your goal. Luckily for me when I start up Transaderm in a couple weeks I will officially be starting my lean bulking season.

**holmes215** · 10-11-2011 08:50 PM

Yea I was looking initially to recomp, I may turn it into a lean bulk then recomp the rest of the fall and winter so I can keep my strength gains

**TheDarkHalf** · 10-12-2011 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by holmes215

Yea I was looking initially to recomp, I may turn it into a lean bulk then recomp the rest of the fall and winter so I can keep my strength gains

I would just bulk to feb-mar. I'm actually going to be bulking for the next year and a half. I'm tired of going back and forth.

**mattrag** · 10-12-2011 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf

I would just bulk to feb-mar. I'm actually going to be bulking for the next year and a half. I'm tired of going back and forth.

I'm with you on this one.... I wanna just be big already. After my transaderm log it's strength and size gains all the way lol.

**holmes215** · 10-12-2011 06:40 PM

Day 11

Back

Behind the neck pulldowns triset with side planks and six inches
5x10

Cable Rows triset with hanging leg raises and 1 arm 1 leg planks
4x10

Machine pull up grip rows triset with good mornings and stationary leg raises
4x10

lat pulldowns
2x15

Overall a good day today as I was able to put up some very good numbers and maintain the strength through my workout. I also had good energy and was able to do so HIIT cardio at the end to keep my cardiovascular system in shape. I had a slight headache at the end of HIIT but nothing bad. Im hoping to do chest tomorrow and set some new PR's on 12 rep sets. I think I am going to run 4 day splits now and train my arms seperately so I can really hit em hard while they arent exhausted from other exercises. After my workout today I went to 5 pumps of Transaderm, so we will see how training goes tomorrow

**holmes215** · 10-15-2011 02:13 PM

Day 12

Chest and Shoulders

DB Bench Press triset with decline crunches and weighted crunch machine
4x12 last set PR 100'sx11

Incline DB Bench Press triset with planks and crunches
4x12 every set with 75's. Last set could only finish 10 with 2 forced reps

BB decline bench press
3x15

Shoulder shocker
3 sets using 35's and 10's

Day 13 Bi's Tri's forearms and shrugs

Biceps routine

seated EZ bar curl 4x12
seated preacher curl 4x12
standing curl 4x10

Triceps
rope pushdown 16, 14, 8, 6 reps
straight bar pushdown 16, 14, 8, 6
triceps extension machine 4x12

Shrugs
Jump shrugs 3x12
behind back shrugs 3x15
regular shrugs 3x10

forearm curl 3x15

Still having some some high blood pressure issues even with taking COQ10. Estrogen has fallen, but still some retention of water. My weight now is at 189 which is up 3 lbs from the start. Some may be water retention and some may be fat, with mostly muscle gain. My biggest issue is just the pectoral area where fat/water is beginning to show around the nipples again. My set maxes are up, and I have gained size so it is working in terms of strength though.

**RickRock13** · 10-15-2011 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by mattrag

I'm with you on this one.... I wanna just be big already. After my transaderm log it's strength and size gains all the way lol.

I used to be that way. Last year went from 170 to 200 in 5 months. Problem is getting big quick means getting fat even quicker. I spent 5 months after my bulk cutting to get to where I am now in my Avi. I hate bodyfat with a passion, so I will only lean bulk now. 9-10% bodyfat is as high as I will ever be again and no more big cuts for me.