[AndrewNico]

Alright, here we go. Got my bottle today (thanks taurus!) and since I just got back from the gym I downed 2ml right there.

Going to be dosing 4ml per day split into multiple doses. Was planning on doing 1ml pre workout, 1ml post and the other two later in the day (I do a morning workout)


Some Starting Stats:
Weight: 159 (if you think Im trying to take the easy way out, i.e. I dont know how to eat or train, you can go f yourself)
BF: ~10% (conservative IMO)

I dont know much about my max lifts, as I dont do a 1rm often (only with deadlifts). But I'll comment each workout on strength (duh), endurance, etc. If you REALLY want to know my big three, last week I did
Bench: 250x2
Squat: 315x3
Deadlift: 450x1 (I dont usually deadlift, and this was 2 weeks ago)

Naturally I will also comment on any potential sides I experience (which I doubt will be any). I wasn't planning on running any supports, but if needed I do have celery seed, NAC, vitC, vitB6, vitB12, coq10, etc. I measured my bp the other day and I was 110/50 (naturally high systolic, naturally low diastolic). I'll measure in a week and see if I need to start up anything.

DIET:
I have been at 2500 cal, >=170g protein, fats ~50g and the rest carbs. I do a refeed once or twice a week on either legs day or chest day (my weak areas). I'll be bumping up my protein to about 200+g, which will increase my cals a bit, but nothing huge. Not looking to put on a lot of weight with this (I can do that myself), but I am looking to add to my strength, and if I see that Im gaining lean mass (i.e. my bf is staying where it is now) I wont be disappointed

TRAINING:
I started PHAT back in february, and since then I had modified it pretty heavily to suit my cutting phase. Now that I am done with that and am recomping/very lean bulking, I have again gone back to the original PHAT protocol(for about 1.5 weeks now). I will be potentially throwing in some contrast training (following up heavy compound movements with light weight plyo exercises) but I havent decided yet.




For post cycle, I have clomid and nolva but based on feedback thus far, these are not needed. If this ends up being the case, I'll just run some reversitol v2 and daa (also have some ATD and fadogia if needed).




And, that's it! Welcome to the show gentlemen.

[AndrewNico]

Before pics:

[AndrewNico]

Initial Thoughts:

Like I said, I had my first dose today. Was pretty much a less sweet version of syrup, lol. Took my doses 1ml at a time (doubled up today), 60s under the tongue, swish and swallow.

The metered dropper is awesome, as is the alternate cap. Using the dropper with the blue cap is VERY effective.

[EasyEJL]

this sounds like a bunch of bull Theres so many fun plays on words you can do with Taurus.

[rulk22]

Ill be following. Looks like you have a really strong base to start with.

[mattrag]

subbed~ Super interested in this compound

[JudoJosh]

subbed in bud

[halfhuman]

subbd bruh...Looking good already no homo lol

[WhatsaRoid?]

Wow this is going to be good.

[AndrewNico]

Sooo, was about to take my morning dose and somehow I managed to get the oral dropper stuck and break the blue cap in the process

grey plunger inside the dropper is still stuck 2 hours later. Had to use my old dropper (thanks cvs) which works very well. Just switched back to the old black cap as well => I can see dosing getting to be difficult towards the bottom of the bottle though :\

off to the gym now. back&shoulders

[StackedCop]

Looking forward to your thoughts!

[TheDarkHalf]

Subbed!

[prld2gr8ns]

this sounds like a bunch of bull Theres so many fun plays on words you can do with Taurus.

I'm in to watch Andrew become the bull!!

[EasyEJL]

This is more like how I'll end up.....

[thebigt]

good luck, andrew-hope it treats you well.

[AndrewNico]

Thanks guys

Well, as I said today was shoulders&back . . . pretty much straight from PHAT protocol

* Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Seated dumbbell presses
50x8, 60x5, 70x5, 80x5, 85x3

* Pulling Power Exercise: Bent over dB rows
100x6, 120x6, 120x6, 100x8

* Hypertrophy pulling movement: Rack chins (weighted)
+60x5, +70x5, +70x4 => little lower than a few weeks ago, mostly because of a gain in weight no doubt

* Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Upright rows
50x10, 70x8, 80x8, 80x8 => had some shoulder pain here, haven't done them in a while

* Hypertrophy pulling movement: Seated cable row (with lat pulldown bar)
110x10x3

* Hypertrophy shoulder movement: Seated dB lateral raises
30x10, 30x10, 30x15 => these were unusually difficult, I think because I did them last (I never do them last)


No significant changes to report. I imagine most of this week will just be me setting my base numbers down, waiting for them to shoot up

I will comment on this though; I forgot this morning to take a preworkout crap after my refeed yesterday, so I had to sort of rush through the workout and get to the bathroom. Remember kids . . . ALWAYS take your preworkout crap.



Quick question, should I be dosing on an empty stomach or does it not matter? Ive done it within 30 minutes of food so far, but I would with some of the compound being absorbed sub-lingually it shouldnt matter.
Figured I would ask

[JudoJosh]

What is this PHAT protocol?

[AndrewNico]

What is this PHAT protocol?

http://www.simplyshredded.com/mega-f...ated-2011.html

Power Hypertrophy Adaptive Training.

By Layne Norton

[prld2gr8ns]

Quick question, should I be dosing on an empty stomach or does it not matter? Ive done it within 30 minutes of food so far, but I would with some of the compound being absorbed sub-lingually it shouldnt matter.
Figured I would ask

You can take it with or without food.

[matt352]

subbed...good luck man

[laserbluess]

you sir, are a very large 159lbs! can't wait to see your results.

[Cop4Lif3]

Looking forward to hearing ur thoughts and hopefully seeing some gains.

[AndrewNico]

you sir, are a very large 159lbs! can't wait to see your results.

I hear this a lot. You guys need to start looking at bodybuilders more often, lol



Oh, and I dont think I mentioned it in this thread, but Im taking this with 2g LCLT if anyone is interested.


Also running glucosamine (3g/day) and fish oil (which I just bumped up to about 2g combined epa/dha) for joints.

Agmatine, Citrulline Malate, and Assault (have been taking this for about 3 weeks now, so they will not skew results). I will note any changes in BP from the assault, but I think it will be negligible.

[PrepNwa23]

Subbed good luck man.

[Taurus BigK]

Hey Andrew, so far with the oral syringe I have found out that if you wash it out after every serving it will work great. Also be sure and shake the hell out of the bottle for about 30sec before using it.

Hope this helps

Big K