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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Thanks Ben, glad to have you here! Feel free to drop some wisdom while you peruse!

    Yes, the RecoverPro is FANTASTIC for the value IMO. I also like the Raspberry taste.

    They (AI Sports Nutrition) is going to have a 50% off Christmas in July sale 1-5 July and I am going to get more and also some Lemonade., and they'll have great deals on LCLT and DAA. I don't know if they ship international though.
    Thank you for the compliment, it makes me feel 'wisdomous' . I was going to buy the Swole stack a while ago but shipping was as much as the stack so I turned it down. For what it is worth on the limb length deadlift conversation it depends on the limbs. I did a workshop with Eric Cressey and he jokes about his short torso and long "gorilla arms" making it mechanically advantageous to deadlift as he only has to pull it about 6" high lol. I hit John Smeton up for some samples as I have never tried the AI products and he has just created a thread on it but I don't think they will ship, very few companies send anything to the UK.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Thanks Ben, glad to have you here! Feel free to drop some wisdom while you peruse!

    Yes, the RecoverPro is FANTASTIC for the value IMO. I also like the Raspberry taste.

    They (AI Sports Nutrition) is going to have a 50% off Christmas in July sale 1-5 July and I am going to get more and also some Lemonade., and they'll have great deals on LCLT and DAA. I don't know if they ship international though.
    Is that sale through AI's site? For 50% off I am going to have to get some...
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  3. Yes, info is in the Company Promotions forum on here. There are some screaming deals...
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  4. Day 3: 6/30 Hamstrings/Chest

    3 Scoops Wyked

    Good Mornings
    95 x 10
    115 x 10
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    135 x 10

    Smith Machine Flat Bench
    110 x 10
    160 x 10
    180 x 10
    200 x 9
    220 x 5 (drop set)

    Hip Thrust (BB across lap)
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    155 x 10
    175 x 10
    185 x 10

    Incline BB Bench Press
    135 x 12
    185 x 10
    205 x 9
    215 x 6
    225 x 3
    225 x 3 (drop sets)

    Lying Leg Curl
    90 x 10
    110 x 10
    125 x 10
    140 x 9
    155 x 7

    Machine Cable Isolateral 21's
    42.5 x 21
    45 x 21
    47.5 x 20
    50 x 20
    52.5 x 21

    Machine Flys
    190 x 10
    210 x 8
    230 x 7


    Starting with the Good Mornings REALLY helped my back feel better. I kept it light, and form was strict. Good stretch in the hammys! Hamstrings were really getting sore on the Leg Curls. Chest was feeling good as well today on the presses, getting in more reps at higher weights. My incline bench is coming along nicely, actually almost able to lift more on that then flat bench for whatever reason, but I've almost always been that way.

    The AnaBeta hasn't seemed to affect hunger much at all yet, though I am much more thirsty after doses. However, while I'm fasting and haven't taken AnaBeta in a while, I am not parched like I am when I take it. All this is making me wonder whether the AP/DC in AnaBeta is staying active long enough to have an effect. Should I add a pill pre-workout? I think I'll wait until next week to try that, unless someone wants to drop some wisdominess words of advice?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Interesting combo of DL and Rows, gotta be killer on lower back!
    Not really, I started it to build my lower back strength & endurance and no longer do those heavy dead-lifts which were just begging for an injury. Remember I do them very light and for high reps, I start with 1 plate on each side... 135Lbs and get like 20-30reps, then I go up to 185Lbs for like 15-20 reps, then I go up to 225 for 10-15 reps, then back down to 185Lbs for like 10-15 reps and end it with 135Lbs for like 15+ reps, exhausted by this time. I don't do it every week, just every other week, I'll start my back routine with this!

    As far as Low Back (LB) pain is concerned, I think I have the same problem a great number of weight lifters have and this is both my personal and professional opinion as a Chiropractor... Tight Hamstrings are the #1 cause of Low Back pain in weight-lifters!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Not really, I started it to build my lower back strength & endurance and no longer do those heavy dead-lifts which were just begging for an injury. Remember I do them very light and for high reps, I start with 1 plate on each side... 135Lbs and get like 20-30reps, then I go up to 185Lbs for like 15-20 reps, then I go up to 225 for 10-15 reps, then back down to 185Lbs for like 10-15 reps and end it with 135Lbs for like 15+ reps, exhausted by this time. I don't do it every week, just every other week, I'll start my back routine with this!

    As far as Low Back (LB) pain is concerned, I think I have the same problem a great number of weight lifters have and this is both my personal and professional opinion as a Chiropractor... Tight Hamstrings are the #1 cause of Low Back pain in weight-lifters!
    Very interesting on the tight hamstrings. So me doing the Good Mornings today, where I could feel a good hammy stretch, probably helped my lower back. I do feel much better, so that probably has something to do with it. After the DLs, my hammys were definitely sore...

    Thanks, good info!
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Very interesting on the tight hamstrings. So me doing the Good Mornings today, where I could feel a good hammy stretch, probably helped my lower back. I do feel much better, so that probably has something to do with it. After the DLs, my hammys were definitely sore...

    Thanks, good info!
    Absolutely... anything that helps loosen up those Ham-Bones will be Tits with your low Back, and Tits are always good in my book, LoL!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Not really, I started it to build my lower back strength & endurance and no longer do those heavy dead-lifts which were just begging for an injury. Remember I do them very light and for high reps, I start with 1 plate on each side... 135Lbs and get like 20-30reps, then I go up to 185Lbs for like 15-20 reps, then I go up to 225 for 10-15 reps, then back down to 185Lbs for like 10-15 reps and end it with 135Lbs for like 15+ reps, exhausted by this time. I don't do it every week, just every other week, I'll start my back routine with this!

    As far as Low Back (LB) pain is concerned, I think I have the same problem a great number of weight lifters have and this is both my personal and professional opinion as a Chiropractor... Tight Hamstrings are the #1 cause of Low Back pain in weight-lifters!

    Your right..tight hammies will cause low back pain. I'm a sprinter so I know all about some hammies

  9. damn milas, i really like vasolate-chocpb tastes fantastic. i just started anabeta yesterday, i am imporessed that endurance went up so quickly-just couldn't tire out....hope this continues. although i could live without the increased urinating. so far anabeta hasn't effected my appetite.

    i agree, gonna jump on some lemonade recoverpro!!!!
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  10. Milas, no invite buddy? I feel left out... Either way I'm here whether you like it or not!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Milas, no invite buddy? I feel left out... Either way I'm here whether you like it or not!
    Don't feel slighted, I didn't send invites this time around. But I am glad you're here! You gonna try anabeta in PCT?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Don't feel slighted, I didn't send invites this time around. But I am glad you're here! You gonna try anabeta in PCT?
    I'd like to. But I really don't think its necessary. I got so much to use already. I feel I should save the anabeta for a natty run after PCT

    PCT so far
    HCGEN
    Osta
    Sustain alpha
    DAA
    Forma Stanz
    Clomid

    I think there's more, gotta check my stash lol

    But I'm thinking Ana beta + HCGen or Ana beta + Phytoserms would be a great stack

  13. Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    I'd like to. But I really don't think its necessary. I got so much to use already. I feel I should save the anabeta for a natty run after PCT

    PCT so far
    HCGEN
    Osta
    Sustain alpha
    DAA
    Forma Stanz
    Clomid

    I think there's more, gotta check my stash lol

    But I'm thinking Ana beta + HCGen or Ana beta + Phytoserms would be a great stack
    I'm pretty much going to do the same. I've got a very stacked PCT, so I think that running it after PCT between cycle will give the most benefit
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  14. Well what the hell... Could always add it in

  15. Day 3 Macros:

    Calories: 3888 (220 over maintenance)

    320g protein
    302g carbs (33g fiber)
    146g fat

    34/32/35

    Most of the far came from Natrually More Peanut Butter and 90% lean Ground Beef (14oz). Carbs are coming from good sources like oats and fruits, so no worries that I was a little high (well, I also had Naan with dinner...).
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  16. Day 4: 7/1 Shoulders/Arms

    Standing BB Military / EZ Bar Curl / CG Smith Bench Press
    95 x 10 / 75 x 12 / 110 x 10
    115 x 10 / 85 x 12 / 150 x 9
    135 x 10 / 95 x 10 / 150 x 9
    135 x 9 / 95 x 10 / 150 x 9
    135 x 8 / 105 x 10 / 150 x 8

    Arnold Press / Incline DB Curl / Incline French Press
    35 x 10 / 30 x 10 / 60 x 10
    40 x 10 / 30 x 10 / 75 x 10
    45 x 10 / 30 x 10 / 95 x 10
    50 x 10 / 30 x 10 / 105 x 10
    55 x 8 / 30 x 12 / 115 x 8

    Cable Side Lateral / One Arm Cable Curl / Rope Press Down
    12.5 x 10 / 20 x 15 / 50 x 20
    15 x 10 / 15 x 15 / 50 x 20
    15 x 10 / 15 x 15 / 50 x 20
    20 x 10 / 20 x 15 / 60 x 20
    25 x 10 / 25 x 12 / 70 x 20

    DB Curls (no rest, burnout)
    10 x 50
    15 x 20
    20 x 15
    25 x 12
    30 x 10


    While I had a good pump going, and arms swelled up ~1", I didn't feel like it was the best workout. I just couldn't get the mind-muscle connection going to feel each contraction. I didn't get as much of a squeeze as I wanted to. Also, shoulder was hurting a bit on the military presses, so I had to keep weight down.

    Not a bad day by any stretch, but just not as good as I would've liked (I have high expectations though). Arms are still sore and on the verge of cramping when I flex now, so I did some good damage, I just hope the darn things grow already!

    I'll do measurements and pictures this weekend. I alread kinda took measurements, but I just want to be sure. I wasn't too happy with them...
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    I'd like to. But I really don't think its necessary. I got so much to use already. I feel I should save the anabeta for a natty run after PCT

    PCT so far
    HCGEN
    Osta
    Sustain alpha
    DAA
    Forma Stanz
    Clomid

    I think there's more, gotta check my stash lol

    But I'm thinking Ana beta + HCGen or Ana beta + Phytoserms would be a great stack
    SHAZAM! Seems that is going to be overkill to me. If you werent running Osta I can see maybe using all the other products, but with Osta in there you won't be loosing anything you have two PCT's worth of supplements there. You sure you aren't just tossing things in there because you want to use them. Seems that will more than likely waste some of your supps.

    If I may make a suggestion, run the clomid, Osta and DAA from the beginning of the pct, save the HCGen for when you stop the Osta. Your test will be mostly recovered but not all the way and still in lower than your normal range. That is when you will really want to increase the free test levels which is truly where HCGen shines alongside the leydig cell stimulation which will continue the recovery. Only use the Formastanzol if needed, and save the Sustain Alpha to run with the Forma during your next PCT if you don't end up with any estrogen issues which for the most part should be okay with the clomid unless you are really succeptible to estrogen issues. Heck if you got Anabeta run that with the HCGen afterwards.

    Of course you can throw the kitchen sink at it and i would probably recommend it but with Osta the chances of you losing gains are so unlikely that there isn't as much need for the kitchen sink approach.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Well what the hell... Could always add it in
    Save it and bridge natty into your next cycle


  19. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post

    The AnaBeta hasn't seemed to affect hunger much at all yet, though I am much more thirsty after doses. However, while I'm fasting and haven't taken AnaBeta in a while, I am not parched like I am when I take it. All this is making me wonder whether the AP/DC in AnaBeta is staying active long enough to have an effect. Should I add a pill pre-workout? I think I'll wait until next week to try that, unless someone wants to drop some wisdominess words of advice?
    Spread the doses out, adding a pill pre-workout would help as well


  20. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Spread the doses out, adding a pill pre-workout would help as well
    Thanks, I was thinking of doing that after these last 4 days. It really seemed to not be active during the day when I fasted and didn't dose any, and then the effects in the afternoon/evening weren't too dramatic.

    I think I'll switch it to 1 pre-workout, 2 at fastbreak, and 1 with dinner. I'll try that for a week or so and adjust if necessary.

    Thanks!
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Save it and bridge natty into your next cycle
    I think that's a good idea. I hope it is anyways since that's what I'm doing...lol
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  22. Day 4 Macros:

    Calories: 2585 (1086 below maintenance)

    237g protein
    230g carbs (36g fiber)
    87g fat

    36/35/29 ratio

    Kept calories low and restricted as a burn day for LeanGains. The next 2 days are going to be low calorie days as well (relatively, given the holiday!). I may have to do some cardio to keep calories where they're supposed to be. We'll put the hunger aspect of AnaBeta to the test!
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  23. Your maintenance Cal's are around 3600? That seems pretty high unless you are adding what you burn in training to come up with maintenance. If so I guess that makes sense
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Your maintenance Cal's are around 3600? That seems pretty high unless you are adding what you burn in training to come up with maintenance. If so I guess that makes sense
    Bingo. BMR + Activity = Maintenance
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    SHAZAM! Seems that is going to be overkill to me. If you werent running Osta I can see maybe using all the other products, but with Osta in there you won't be loosing anything you have two PCT's worth of supplements there. You sure you aren't just tossing things in there because you want to use them. Seems that will more than likely waste some of your supps.

    If I may make a suggestion, run the clomid, Osta and DAA from the beginning of the pct, save the HCGen for when you stop the Osta. Your test will be mostly recovered but not all the way and still in lower than your normal range. That is when you will really want to increase the free test levels which is truly where HCGen shines alongside the leydig cell stimulation which will continue the recovery. Only use the Formastanzol if needed, and save the Sustain Alpha to run with the Forma during your next PCT if you don't end up with any estrogen issues which for the most part should be okay with the clomid unless you are really succeptible to estrogen issues. Heck if you got Anabeta run that with the HCGen afterwards.

    Of course you can throw the kitchen sink at it and i would probably recommend it but with Osta the chances of you losing gains are so unlikely that there isn't as much need for the kitchen sink approach.

    I love it when members take the time to explain their reasoning instead of just saying, "You only need XYZ. Save ABC for later." Great post my friend!
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