AndroMass or AndroMyth? You decide...
- 07-18-2011, 06:30 PM
For TCF-1, I go through the whole bottle. I do SA with the 5/2 protocol. It is possible to gain LBM with the stack, but, during PCT, it's probably not going to happen. I personally haven't had any negative side effects from the stack.M.Ed. Ex Phys
- 07-18-2011, 10:19 PM
Usually unless your prone to shedding, Androhard really wont make you shed. Taking Toco 8 twice daily as a great way to keep from shedding btw.Primordial Performance
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- 07-19-2011, 01:36 PM
No, I unfortunately did not have any body comps taken during this first cycle. I'm am going to do that definitely for any future cycles. Yes, I am definitely prone to hair shedding so I'm not sure if I'd risk AndroHard. BTW..so far on TCF/TRS I've noticed oily skin/acne, a bit of diaharea, and increased energy.
07-19-2011, 01:57 PM
07-19-2011, 08:14 PM
The diarrhea is probably from the TCF-1, but it is only temporary.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
07-20-2011, 01:59 AM
07-20-2011, 06:01 PM
07-20-2011, 08:08 PM
Nice log. Going to subscribe.
07-20-2011, 09:00 PM
07-20-2011, 11:53 PM
Diarrhea has now gone away after about 6 days of TCF-1, and I'm still holding at 216lbs after 1 week of PCT. Out of curiosity, how long does it take for AndroMass to fully leave the body? I really haven't noticed too much in transition to PCT except strength is down just a bit. Also after a full month of PCT, what is the typical timeframe to begin another cycle safely? Would it be ok to try 8 caps/day? Also, I've increased my Toco-8 to twice daily to see if it helps a bit with hair regrowth these next few months.
Also, for my next cycle I'm going to cut out the weight gainer shakes completely and stick with my own homegrown shakes, plus only whole foods. No more shakes in a bottle or mix! I'm also going to eliminate the preworkout drink which has 300mg caffeine and 100mg DMAA, and just stick with Creatine+L-Arginine+Beta Alanine. I'm pretty sure too much of these stimulants are curbing my appetite for many hours after my workout. Maybe I'll just slam down a cup of black coffee instead! And lastly, I'm going to keep a more accurate food log to make damn sure I'm getting in the required nutrients! The most challenging part of this cycle for me has definitely been eating enough frequently throughout the day.
07-20-2011, 11:59 PM
Primordial reps...How can I signup to test the next generation of AndroSeries?
07-21-2011, 08:37 AM
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07-23-2011, 09:11 AM
What happened?Originally Posted by Rodja
07-23-2011, 10:17 AM
LMAO! Smart man.Originally Posted by HereToStudy
07-23-2011, 05:26 PM
07-24-2011, 08:17 PM
Just did.Originally Posted by ryansm
07-25-2011, 01:20 AM
07-25-2011, 12:51 PM
Great log btw
Celtic Labs Rep
07-28-2011, 08:24 PM
07-29-2011, 01:38 AM
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07-30-2011, 12:03 AM
I'm on day 14 of PCT and I still feel pretty damn good with the TRS/TCF/Toco-8 stack. My strength is still up and my final gains roughly have been about a 50lb increase in bench press, 100lb increase in squats, 20lb increase in dumbbell curl, and increased reps in all exercises. Just today I set a new PR with 130lb dumbbell presses, which was formerly 120lb dumbbell presses. I thought that was pretty cool to keep my strength up during PCT so far! I've maintained my 10lb body weight increase still at 216lbs and have had a surprisingly decent pump each workout using TRS/TCF. My libido has been severely low this past week and I've had a bit more acne and oily skin. I've noticed my testicles have been pretty damn large too during PCT! I'm already looking forward to running AndroMass again and revisiting that 24/7 pump that was SICK!
Once again, I'd like to ask if I can run AndroMass next time at 8 caps/day for 6 weeks, or if anyone has a recommendation of a good stack besides AndroHard. Maybe a PP rep can PM me and tell me to wait for the next gen of AndoSeries products
07-30-2011, 12:49 PM
Blood work should tell your cholesterol levels and such...if I'm not mistaken..
07-30-2011, 01:01 PM
07-31-2011, 11:26 PM
08-01-2011, 08:19 PM
It's not just one number that you look for in post-cycle bloods. It's the overall picture that you need to have to know whether or not you are truly recovered.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
08-02-2011, 09:13 PM
08-03-2011, 02:09 AM
man, ive been wondering how andromass would work with the trs pct and no serm... blood pressure kind of scared me though, thats a pretty big increase, and mine is always 125-135 to BEGIN with (and i take hawthorne berry!)
with regard to diarrhea, im on supertest week 4 right now and i had it beginning week 2 and havent had a REALLY solid **** since... what causes that? should i be worried?
08-03-2011, 12:24 PM
The BP with andromass can be controlled with hawthorne berry (first two weeks will be an increase in BP though), aged garlic extract, minoxidil or, per Rodja's suggestion, a small dose of cialis.
Celtic Labs Rep
08-04-2011, 09:43 PM
08-04-2011, 11:11 PM
Day 20 of PCT and I'm still holding steady at +10lb gain, which is 216lbs. A few days ago I ran out of TCF, when the remaining part of the product solidified at the bottom of the bottle. I tried placing the bottle in both hot and warm water with no luck at breaking apart the sludge that remained. I called Primordial's customer service line and they shipped me out a replacement bottle the same day! I was also happy to hear that a new and improved Andromass v3.0 is in the works!
Libido is still a bit shaky during PCT and I felt like it was coming back before my TCF ran out. Overall my strength gains are holding steady and today I tested my bench press again and I'm still pushing 325lbs for a few reps, so I'm a very satisfied customer with these results. I've also tapered off my strong pre-workout drinks and creatine, and I'm finding that I still have the same level of energy and pump in the gym without them. Gaining 5+lbs of muscle on this cycle has been the ticket
I'm planning on checking my bloodwork a few weeks after I end PCT later this month. My next cycle I'm thinking about 6 weeks of Trenazone with Andromass.
08-04-2011, 11:43 PM
sorry, i dont mean to hijack your thread.... this is an awesome log.
but yeah, my water intake has been the same. my... well, bowels, have seemed to have solidified, haha. ive read that milk thistle can do this, and although the dosage of mt in the supertest is low, ive never taken it in any amount before, so maybe that caused it. there still seems to be more bile in them though.
08-05-2011, 01:48 AM
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08-06-2011, 06:34 PM
Nice log. Very informative too.
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