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  1. Quote Originally Posted by honda81 View Post
    I have been doing 6 hours these first 2 days, and it seems all fine to me. But nice update! seems like its going great. But question.. you bench everyday? If im not mistaken.. thats pretty bad for your muscles, right?
    Where does he say he benches everyday?

    The last update he wrote he mentions benching was the 16th, which was a week ago today.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys



  2. Great update, and awesome progress. Your log really has me interested in the new PP andro series.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by honda81 View Post
    I have been doing 6 hours these first 2 days, and it seems all fine to me. But nice update! seems like its going great. But question.. you bench everyday? If im not mistaken.. thats pretty bad for your muscles, right?
    I usually bench every 3 days, which is about twice/week. I follow that principle for all muscle groups actually to avoid overtraining, except for abs which I'll work more frequently with different intensity levels.

  4. Keep the does the same, you have been on for 5 weeks now I don't see any reason in changing things.


  5. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Keep the does the same, you have been on for 5 weeks now I don't see any reason in changing things.
    Agreed.
    Just inject.
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  6. I will be reaching 6 weeks on AM in a few days. Am I ok to run this 8 weeks? Are there any risks or side effects I should know about? Anything I should look out for?

  7. I'd say you're in the clear to run it for 8 weeks.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I'd say you're in the clear to run it for 8 weeks.
    X2. 8 weeks is a great cycle!
    Just inject.
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  9. Week #6 Summary: 6/29/11

    Weight: Decreased 2lbs to 219lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Increased
    Acne: None
    Water Retention: Medium
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: This week I lost 2lbs back to about 219lbs, which I attribute to being sick for a few days from last Thursday-Saturday. I felt really weak and achey, plus I had a bad upset stomach and symptoms of the flu. I'm not sure where this came from but it passed pretty quickly and I was back on track after the weekend. I've noticed some of the water gain is gone and I'm definitely tighter in the midsection. My strength is still on fire and my highlights this past week were dumbbell chest flies with 110lb each arm which is a new PR, 3 reps of 315lbs on the bench press, and the same 405lb squats. I think overall my diet was just about at maintenance level this week which probably explains the lack of weight gain, though I am definitely keeping my definition I've earned the last few weeks. A few other things I've noticed is I've been a bit lethargic and a few of the nights I've really wanted to sleep much longer than normal, and the next morning it has been really difficult to get out of bed!

    How can I tell the degree of my own testosterone shutdown? Once I go into PCT in 2 weeks, what should I expect?

    Also, I've been taking Toco-8 now for the full 6 weeks and haven't noticed any changes in hair regrowth. Does anyone know how long the product should be taken before results are seen?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Week #6 Summary: 6/29/11

    Weight: Decreased 2lbs to 219lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Increased
    Acne: None
    Water Retention: Medium
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: This week I lost 2lbs back to about 219lbs, which I attribute to being sick for a few days from last Thursday-Saturday. I felt really weak and achey, plus I had a bad upset stomach and symptoms of the flu. I'm not sure where this came from but it passed pretty quickly and I was back on track after the weekend. I've noticed some of the water gain is gone and I'm definitely tighter in the midsection. My strength is still on fire and my highlights this past week were dumbbell chest flies with 110lb each arm which is a new PR, 3 reps of 315lbs on the bench press, and the same 405lb squats. I think overall my diet was just about at maintenance level this week which probably explains the lack of weight gain, though I am definitely keeping my definition I've earned the last few weeks. A few other things I've noticed is I've been a bit lethargic and a few of the nights I've really wanted to sleep much longer than normal, and the next morning it has been really difficult to get out of bed!

    How can I tell the degree of my own testosterone shutdown? Once I go into PCT in 2 weeks, what should I expect?

    Also, I've been taking Toco-8 now for the full 6 weeks and haven't noticed any changes in hair regrowth. Does anyone know how long the product should be taken before results are seen?
    Without bloods, it's impossible to truly tell the level of shutdown. However, your PCT should be smooth.

    Regarding the Toco-8, it really isn't a fair assessment on its efficacy to regrow hair while using a product which carries some risk of androgenic sides.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  11. That's a great point. So far I haven't lost any more hair while on this cycle, so perhaps Toco-8 is working for now. Perhaps I'll have hair regrowth during PCT.

  12. Don't discount the anti-oxidant and lipid protecting benefits as well. They're equally as important on cycle.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  13. Week #7 Summary: 7/6/11

    Weight: Decreased 2lbs to 217lbs.
    Libido: Decreased
    Strength: Increased
    Stamina: Increased
    Energy: Increased
    Aggression: Decreased
    Acne: None
    Water Retention: Low
    Hair Loss: None

    Comments: This week I lost another 2lbs down to about 217lbs, and I can tell the water weight is still coming off. I've noticed these last 2 weeks also I haven't had that insane pump and fullness 24/7, which I assume was from all the water weight. Now I only get a good pump during my workout which is still pretty fierce. Strength has been about the same also for weeks 6/7 with no significant increases that are notable, though all lifts are still up. From what i can tell, I'm still retaining the muscle I've earned on this cycle and have actually been leaning out considerably around the waist. Any ideas why things would change towards the end of the AM cycle? Is this typical? I'm still up about 11lbs from when I started and I can definitely tell the extra muscle I've packed on. When I start PCT in another week, should I expect to lose even more weight?

  14. I am inclined to say it is your diet that is causing this. Seems you either need to increase your cals or stay with your current caloric intake and possibly turn this into a recomp since you are leaning out. Gaining 12 pounds and now having lost water weight and fat is incredibly impressive.


  15. Any ideas why I would lose so much water weight these last 2 weeks on AM? I was under the impression that the water weight starts to come off after the cycle is over and PCT begins...

  16. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    Any ideas why I would lose so much water weight these last 2 weeks on AM? I was under the impression that the water weight starts to come off after the cycle is over and PCT begins...
    Could be loads of things, diet imo is the core cause. Not macros, any food sensitivities? something you cut out eating last week? Change in mineral levels? i.e. Potasium/sodium balance.

  17. Bloat and water retention are influenced by a myriad of factors including carb sources, electrolytes, water consumption, and glycogen levels. I can easily go from 205-220 for a short period of time depending on level of depletion and hydration.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  18. Good log. Interested in how this turns out after PCT. Very exciting.

  19. The one thing that is noticeably different is the lack of the 24/7 pump that I had for the first 5 weeks or so.

  20. Have you been increasing calories along the way as you've added mass?
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  21. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Have you been increasing calories along the way as you've added mass?
    Always an overlooked detail!
    Just inject.
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  22. Subd....no b4 pics to compare for after your cycle is done ?
    ***:squintfinger: this statement is of course for entertainment purposes only puta :squintfinger:***

  23. No, unfortunately I didn't take a before pic nor get bloodwork done before this cycle. I'll start taking pics in the future.

    I believe I've been increasing my calories though I could be off with my calculations.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    No, unfortunately I didn't take a before pic nor get bloodwork done before this cycle. I'll start taking pics in the future.

    I believe I've been increasing my calories though I could be off with my calculations.
    Possible, try upping them by another 250 or so and see how that goes


  25. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Have you been increasing calories along the way as you've added mass?
    Good mention. I notice a few of my gym buddies always stocking up on ready to drink proteins shakes and protein powders right before a cycle. Btw their adding more whole food while on and after as well.
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