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    Big boy kicks it up with the "Trifecta (Taurus, PES, IForce), unsponsored.


    Ok, so as you may or may not know, I opted to join the competition for Primordial's 30 day stripping challenge. (Have pics on page 4)

    Primordial Performance 4-week contest for FREE AndroMass!

    I am gonna be stepping up my usual weight loss efforts for this (which are archived here:

    Big boy needs to strip out, here's the plan, plz review and critique.

    and bringing to bare the power of what I am calling the Trifecta (Taurus Nutrition, PES and IForce) Stack.

    But lets be honest, all the sups in the world won't do crap with out a good diet and work out routine. I will continue to run a 4 day split (upper/lower, off day, upper/lower), restrict the daily intake target just a bit tighter (2500-2700 on lifting days, under 100 carbs every day, 220-275 protein grams) and about 2400 or less on non lifting days. I am also going to step up the cardio form 3x to 4-5x/wk. This will at times mean split sessions with morning cardio before work and lifting after. Will use a combo of HIIT and endurance cardio.

    Now to the sups:

    Taurus Nutrition's Wyked for PWO (2 scoops on Cardio days, 3 on lifting days). Logged this stuff for them and loved it:

    Taman's getting wyked baby!

    Quickly became my fav PWO, bought a refill.
    Pair that along with their DA-HCG taken as directed to help keep the test flowing and make the most out of the iron efforts. Got enough of this for 8+ weeks

    Then we throw in 30 days worth of Alpha T-2 (2 pills am on empty stomach, 1 more in the afternoon) to help in the fat reduction and loss for the contest itself. Top that? Sure, how about we keep away the nasty influence of estrogen with 8 weeks of Erase(2 pills am on empty stomach, 1 more in the afternoon) for another angle on fat reduction.

    And to cap it all off, we are gonna do a 6-8 week Iforce ECDY run. Got enough (2 90 cap bottles) for 20 days of 3 caps and 30 days at 4/day. (which reportedly helps increase strength, is anabolic and also aids in leaning out.) I may just stay at 3 if I like what it is doing. All ECDY will be consumed after a minumum of 25, more likely 50g protein.

    The overall goal is to reduce the fat while hopefully maintaining if not gaining some strength.

    Starting point:

    275 pounds, estimated BF: 19% (via 3 pt caliper estimate)

    Current Maxes: DL 375, Squat 405, Flat Bench: 280X2

    Started taking the sups on Friday (5/13/11), lets rock this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Here to cheer you on fella! You got this!
    This! x99999999999999999
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Here to cheer you on fella! You got this!
    Thanks Milas, Kind of figured I could count on ya

    Quote Originally Posted by thetinyguy;
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    Nice man, welcome aboard.
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    Gonna repost yesterdays info and work out here as it is part of the time frame for this log and also so I do not have to repeat the "deload week" explanation."


    5/15/11
    Day 1, wk 9 (deload week)
    2:20 – 3:15 p.m.
    Total duration: 55 Minutes.

    Notes: Was starting to feel a little beat up, joints achy etc, so decided it was time for a deload. Instead of taking a week away from the iron and just hitting cardio, I have opted to lower volume a bit by dropping some weight.

    Today, we tried to keep it intense by incorporating Compound and opposing sets. Focused on form, good mind muscle connection and slow tempo with emphasis on negatives.

    Decline Bench+ 190-/8/8, 210/8
    Flat DB Press110-/10/10, 130/10 (wgt = db wgt x2)

    BO BB Row+ 140-/8, 150-/8/9
    Triangle PD 220-/10,250-/10/10

    (opposing set)
    Assisted dip + 195-/12, 205-/12/12
    Ham Curl 40-/15, 50-/15/15 (wgt = db wgt x2)

    (opposing set)
    St. Bar Cable Curl+ 85-/15, 100-/15
    St Bar Tri PD 85-/15, 100-/15

    (Compound set)
    Seated OH DB Press 90-/15/15 (wgt = db wgt x2)
    Db Lat Raise 30-/12/12 (wgt = db wgt x2)

    Wrapped it up with 40 minutes of 5 stage hills cardio, 305 cals burned.

    Dietary info for today: 2592 in (107 [minus 29 fiber]= 78 carbs, 263 protein, 119 fats) with an estimated burn of 4324 for a deficit of 1732.


    Not sure if it is the DA-HCG, the Erase or the ECDY or the combo of them all, but today I am noting an upswing in both mood and energy levels. I am generaly confident, but at this time I would say I am bordering on arrogant/****y. There is also a definitive increase in libido, thought I had "outgrown" the morning stiffy although I would at times wake up a little "heavy", these last two mornings things have been at "full attention.".
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    Sick stack!
    I think you'll be seeing Dexaprine in a lot of logs, especially with Intermittent Fasting protocol. The appetite suppression is the best I've ever experienced, better than ECA IMO.
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    in bro! shed that weight
    BJJ = life
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    in bro! shed that weight
    Was wondering when (not if mind you, but when) you were gonna show up.

    Awesome to have you behind me bud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Was wondering when (not if mind you, but when) you were gonna show up.

    Awesome to have you behind me bud!
    hahah im only on here during the week at work
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonG42O View Post
    hahah im only on here during the week at work
    It's all good brotha, not whining at you at all, just saying I knew it in my gut that you would be in for this.
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    Ok, hit some HIIT Tonight. 15X40/20 cycles then coasted to an even 25 minutes. 210 calories burnt.

    Dietary for today: 2324 in [88 minus 15 fiber] = 73 carbs, 238 protein, 110 fats) with an estimated burn of 3764 for a deficit of 1440.
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    5/17/11
    Day 2 wk 9 (Deload day 2)
    5:00pm-5:55pm
    Duration : 55 minutes
    Notes: 4 minute warm up before lifting, continued to use opposing and compound sets to bring the intensity despite going light.

    Opposing set (warm up sets are not recorded)
    Dead lift - 225/10, 245 /10/10
    Hack Squat – 230/8, 230 / 10/10
    (Pumps were painful from this)

    (Opposing set)
    Leg Press - 320/12, 370/12/12
    Back Hyper extension – BW/12, 45/12/12

    (Compound set)
    Standing Calf Raise -120 /20/20/12
    Seated Calf Raise - 120 /20/20/12
    (Nasty cramps, tried to push through them)

    Dietary info for today: 2672 cals (96 [minus 19 fiber] = 77 carbs, 260 protein, 139 fats) with an estimated burn of 4195 for a deficit of 1523.

    Tomorrow, "Tale of the tape" and pre-work cardio.
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    Today's tale of the tape: Weight - 271.6, down another 3.4 pounds. Waist 43.5, another 1/4 inch gone. 50.4 pounds in all and 8 inches of the waist since we started ( Meaning late December.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Today's tale of the tape: Weight - 271.6, down another 3.4 pounds. Waist 43.5, another 1/4 inch gone. 50.4 pounds in all and 8 inches of the waist since we started ( Meaning late December.)
    Great job my man!
    I hope everybody thinks i'm crazy, because you cannot be a sane person and go through the type of pain i am willing to put myself through to be where i want to be, Once I completely win the war between my mind and body, my reign will begin. ~Me
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetinyguy View Post
    Great job my man!
    Thank you sir.

    Started today with 10gram BCAA, 2 alpha T2, 2 scoops of Wyked and a scoop of DA-HCG with about 3 cups of coffee on an empty stomach for fasted pre-work cardio. STIMMED is not the word!

    Anyways, 35.5 minutes, variable resistance (60/80/100% resistance) 260 cals.
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    Well done, keep it up! What's your goal weight or overall health target?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Well done, keep it up! What's your goal weight or overall health target?
    Basically, to get lean enough that I no longer have a sagging chest (fat) and obviously noticeable love handles. My original target was 260, but don't think that is going to get the job done.
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    Dietary info for today: 2303 cals (97 [minus 17 fiber] = 80 carbs, 237 protein, 106 fats) with an estimated burn 3758 for a deficit of 1455.
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    5/19/11
    Day 3, (Deload) Week 9
    5:15-6:20 pm
    Duration: 65 minutes
    Notes: Started with 4 minute on eliptical for warmup. Continued to go light and us compound and super sets to crank up the intensity.

    (Compound set)
    Assisted Pull Up 185 – 10/10/10 (body weight +shoes etc minus assist weight)
    Magnum Lat Row 120 – 10/10/10

    (Compound set)
    Flat Barebell Bench 185 - 10/10/10
    Inc DB Press 110 – 10/10/10 (55'sX2)

    (Compound set)
    Seated OH BB Press 100 – 12/12, 110-15
    DB Front Raise 20 – 12, 24 – 12, 30 – 15 (DB wgt X2)

    (Opposing set)
    2H OH DB Ext 55 – 12/15/20
    St. Bar Curl 60 – 12/15/20

    Seated Alt DB Curl 50 – 15/15 (25's X2)
    EZ bar skull 65 - 15/15

    Finished with 10X 50/40 HIIT then coasted for to an even 21. 150 cals.

    Dietary info for today: 2669 in (102 [minus 19 fiber] = 83 carbs, 278 protein, 129 fats) with an estimated output of 4364 for a deficit of 1695.

    Tomorrow, early morning cardio, legs after work.

    Some things I have noted from this stack:

    1) Energy continues to be good
    2) Aggression in the weight room is good.
    3) Sleeping better, usually wake up 2-3 times a night(briefly) but have only been getting up once about 1:30, then sleep till 6. I can live with this.
    4) Libido is a bit too good. (Not getting into it, but if ya have been there, you know what I mean.
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    Ok, this mornings cardio efforts were a cluster F. WTF is the point of having a cardio machine sign up board if some ass wipe is gonna take the machine you wanted when you are signing up. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I was like "no big deal, there is another one just like it." Unfortunately, all tracking meters on it were screwed, think that batteries were dead. I should have said something, but hell, I don't always sign in my self and did not seem worth the fuss (yet I sit here passive aggressively beatching )

    Anyways, jumped on the treadmill instead, did 7 minutes and was like "Damn, no calorie meter" so I went to a stationary bike- 13 minutes, 60 supposed calories (+getting acquainted with the damn program) 60 cals. Grand estimated total: 107 cal burned, less than half of what I was expecting from an anticipated 35 - 40 minute session.

    What's done is done I guess. Compound/opposing sets for legs tonight. Maybe I will break my rule and do more cardio after leg work out since I am going light this week.
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    5/20/11
    Day 4 (Deload) week 9
    4:45-5:30pm
    Duration: 45 minutes
    Notes – continued to go light and use opposing sets to bring the intensity tonight. After a week of this, I am getting hungry for some low rep/high weight action.

    (opposing set) Does not include warm ups.
    Squat 245 -10, 255 – 10/10
    Lying Hamstring Curl 60 – 12, 70 - 12/12 (slow reps)

    (opposing set)
    Romanian DL 185 – 10, 195 – 10/12
    Leg Extension 120 – 15, 140 – 12/12 (slow reps)

    Leg Press Calf Ext 410 – 20/20/20

    Did some random wrist curls as the above went very quickly and I tend to ignore my forearms.

    Due to things going cruddy this morning with the pre-work cardio, I went ahead and did some more after leg work out. Variable
    resistance (60%, 80%, 100%) for 27 minutes – 200 cals.

    Dietary for today: 2576cals in (98 [minus 22 fiber] = 76 carbs, 255 protein, 130 fats) with an estimated burn of 4251 for a deficit of 1675.

    Tomorrow I am going with the little guy for a camp out with the Scouts, will try to be disciplined, maybe pack some protein shakes pre-mixed and take a cooler and some peanuts nd jerky.
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    5/22/10
    Day 1, wk 10
    1:50-3:10pm
    Duration 1:20
    Notes: Started with a 5 minute warm up.

    1)Decline bench
    250 -4, 260 – 2, 280 -1+1(FR), 290 – 1(FR), 210 – 10, 140 - 20
    (No spotter till I hit 275), got 290 up about 3-4 inches and stalled which is weird as I usually “die” with bar on my chest.

    2)Bent Over BB Row - 205 7/7/8/7
    3)“V bar” Pull down - 190 7/7
    4)Assisted Dip - 230 – 12, 240 – 10, 250 – 4 (bw + shoes etc minus assist weight)
    5)2H OH DB Ext - 65 12/12/12
    6)Hammer Curl - 45 8/8/8/8 (even sets left, odd sets right)
    7)Concentration Curl - 40 6/6/6/6 (even sets left, odd sets right) focused on form, slow reps.
    8)Straight Bar Cable Curl – 115 10/12

    finished with 35 minutes of 5 stage hills profile cardio, 275 cals, came home and mowed (push and rider)

    Dietary for today: 2489 in (87 [minus 22 fiber] = 65 carbs, 243 protein, 122 fats) with an estimated burn of 4798 for a deficit of 2309.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Anyways, jumped on the treadmill instead, did 7 minutes and was like "Damn, no calorie meter" so I went to a stationary bike- 13 minutes, 60 supposed calories (+getting acquainted with the damn program) 60 cals. Grand estimated total: 107 cal burned, less than half of what I was expecting from an anticipated 35 - 40 minute session.
    Just so you know, what you burn DURING the session is NO indicator of what that session actually contributes to your progress, so be aware of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Just so you know, what you burn DURING the session is NO indicator of what that session actually contributes to your progress, so be aware of that.

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    Thanks Rosie! Could youy clarify a bit, in lehman's terms (not asking for a disertation, although I would certainly read one, just recognizing that you have other things to do in life besides forums.) I am aware of the cardio vascular and other health benefits as well as boosting the metabolism for the day (which was the point of morning sessions.) Is there anything else I am missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Thanks Rosie! Could youy clarify a bit, in lehman's terms (not asking for a disertation, although I would certainly read one, just recognizing that you have other things to do in life besides forums.) I am aware of the cardio vascular and other health benefits as well as boosting the metabolism for the day (which was the point of morning sessions.) Is there anything else I am missing?
    For example, 12 minutes of high intensity work on the treadmill or bike may only burn ~120 calories. However, the effect that is has on the body lasts a lot longer than what it burnt DURING the session, and will continue to have an effect on your body for up to 24 hours afterwards re "energy use".

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    Had to skip after work cardio tonight, got caught up in some stuff at work, gonna do a double tomorrow, AM cardio, PM deadlifts etc.

    Dietary for today: 2553 in (96 [minus 20 fiber]=76 carbs, 225 protein, 137 fats) with an estimated burn of 3570 for a deficit of 1017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Thanks Rosie! Could youy clarify a bit, in lehman's terms (not asking for a disertation, although I would certainly read one, just recognizing that you have other things to do in life besides forums.) I am aware of the cardio vascular and other health benefits as well as boosting the metabolism for the day (which was the point of morning sessions.) Is there anything else I am missing?
    Essentially it is a result of EPOC (excess post oxygen consumption) which simply means your body demands more O2 after the exercise and hence burns more calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    In bruddah!!
    Awesome! I been haunting the Taurus section just because I missed seeing your Avi!

    Great to have you along Josh.
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    Thanks to both Josh and Rosie on some cardio education. Made up for missing last night with 35 minutes of variable resistance cardio (60/80/100% then back down) this morning: 250 cals. Was really due for some HIIT last night but did not want to go that route with Deadlifts coming tonight.
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    5/24/11
    Day 2, wk 10
    4:50 pm to 6:05 pm
    Duration: 1:15

    Dead lifts 295 – 8, 325 – 6, 350 – 4, 365 – 2.
    Tried 385 twice, got it off the ground both times,
    Could not lock it out. (does not include warm up sets)
    Belt only with 350 or above.

    Hack Squat - 320 -8/8. 340 – 8, 350 -8

    Back Hyper extension (w/65# dumbbell) 12/12/12

    Leg Press – 550 -10/10/10
    Good and deep with no push from hands.

    Standing calf extension – 140 – 15/15/12 (Good full ROM)

    dietary info for today: 2524cals in (94 {minus 21 fiber} =73 carbs, 241 protein, 128 fats) with an estimated burn of 4500 for a deficit of 1976.

    Tomorrow AM, tale of the tape!

    Subjective observations: Aggression was very good tonight as was confidence. I had no doubt that I would hit 385 when I plated it up that it really pissed me off when I could not lock it out.

    Energy continues to be good, libido is also (almost too good still). Continue to get the ass kicking cardio endurance I experienced with the Wyked during my log.

    Also, came to a realization: I am in fact a stim junkie. Started this day with 2 A T2, 4 cups of coffee, a mix of Lit Up and AI's Maniac and 2 AI Motivate (from their sample packs they sent out). Was not geeked but very driven, and it showed in my pace with the cardio work. Did feel a bit of a crash in the afternoon, but nothing that one more Alpha T-2 and 3 scoops of Wyked could not tackle. Guess given my history of addiction, it should not surprise me that I enjoy natural stims a bit too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Thanks to both Josh and Rosie on some cardio education. Made up for missing last night with 35 minutes of variable resistance cardio (60/80/100% then back down) this morning: 250 cals. Was really due for some HIIT last night but did not want to go that route with Deadlifts coming tonight.
    No worries, bud - you know we're here to help out

    Nice re the cardio

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    Today`s tale of the tape: weight-270, waist-43 3/8. Down another 1.6 lbs & another 1/8 off the midsection. Not a bad week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Today`s tale of the tape: weight-270, waist-43 3/8. Down another 1.6 lbs & another 1/8 off the midsection. Not a bad week.
    Not a bad week at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Not a bad week at all
    Thanks Rosie. Nice to see you are following along also

    Today was pretty quiet, late day at work, took some time this morning to reconnect with the wife while the kids were at school. It was worth missing some cardio time for.

    Dietary for today may be a bit off as some one brought in a platter with summer sausage and various cheeses, I did include estimates in today's totals.

    Estimated intake: 2479 (a bit over target) (92 [minus 20 fiber]= 72 carbs, 217 protein, 136 fats) with an estimated burn of 3555 for a deficit of 1076.

    Tomorrow is upper body and cardio day. May split into AM/PM sessions not sure. PM will count on rain as my youngest is scheduled for a ball game but we have had bad storms with more in the forecast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    Thanks Rosie. Nice to see you are following along also .
    No worries You can almost guarantee I am watching, even if I say nothing most of the time if you are using products that I love or from a company I support and stand behind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    No worries You can almost guarantee I am watching, even if I say nothing most of the time if you are using products that I love or from a company I support and stand behind

    ~Rosie~
    Same goes for me!

    I have been SUPER busy lately so just been lurking on my phone most of the time but I am here following
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Same goes for me!

    I have been SUPER busy lately so just been lurking on my phone most of the time but I am here following
    From July on I will likely be less active re posting, because busy gets turned up several notches for me, but I will always be watching, and if anyone wants the fastest response from me, they can always PM.

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