KLEEN - Takes the Bull by the horns! Taurus Nutrition's w/ WYKED & Beta TNP

[MrKleen73]

SPONSORED LOG

Thank you Taurus Nutrition for choosing me to run the beta as well as the WYKED which I have been thoroughly enjoying so far.

Hey everyone, I am going to continue with the WYKED Log I have been running here. I will also be beta testing Taurus Nutritions new progestin which I have referred to above as TNP. Along with testing this I will continue to comment on my progress with the Lean Gains Intermittent Fasting Protocol way of eating. My goal is a rapid recomp, with slightly more focus on fat loss.

I received my bottle of the TNP last night when I got home and I had a dead lift workout to do. So I took 2 doses of it and did a few things for about 30 minutes and then went to the garage to start my Trap Bar Dead Lifts. I have just recently taken up the goal of achieving 405x20 on Trap Bar Dead Lifts over the course of the next year. I did 305x20 last night without any issue at all. I know I could jump ahead and get 325-335 for 20 but I am trying to make several small increases and adaptation points to allow for more growth instead of going straight after maximum strength gains which would shortchange the amount of muscle mass I could add as I work up to the goal. I am also working on grip strength so as much as possible I will only use a raw grip with either chalk or rosin to keep hands dry. By rosin I am talking about the bags pitchers use to keep hands dry while pitching. My gym does not allow chalk so I have been using rosin and it works GREAT and makes much less mess.

TRAINING - Current training is 1 compound exercise per body part with 3-4 sets each in an Upper Body / Lower Body Split. Tues - Thurs - Sat are lifting days so the alternation is set up so that each week I will work either upper or lower body 2 times and the following week it will get worked once. I am currently doing 12 reps at an approximate 2-1-2 tempo. The only exercise I am not doing this with are Trap Bar Dead Lifts which is explained above and Calve work which is pretty much not needed other than to get blood into the muscle. My calves are already large. Oh and abs which I vary what I do for them.

Normal Routines -
Upper Body -
Bench 4 sets, Chin Grip Pull Downs 4 sets, Military Press 3 sets, EZ Bar Curls - 1 set, Weighted Dips - 1 set, L-Fly 2 sets for external rotator cuff work.

Lower Body -
Leg press - 4 sets, Calves - 2 Sets, Roman Chair Inverted hangs - 2 sets 2 minute hangs each to elongate my spine and increase circulation to the discs and connective tissue.
(These are done same day but during a separate workout since I do them in my garage.)
Trap Bar Deads - I do a few warm ups and 1 Rest Pause set of 20 reps. Incline Shrugs - 2 sets to work the retracting muscles of the shoulder girdle not hiw with the Lat Pull downs. Even though not lower body they fit here better since all the other musculature is worked staicly during the dead lifts which should allow for more recovery than if done on an upper body day.

DIET - Lean Gains Intermittent Fasting Protocol - 16 hour fasting and 8 hour feeding window daily. Carbs are higher and fats are lower on lifting days the opposite holds true on cardio / rest days. I do not always follow this completely as some rest days I will wait to eat until I feel like it often extending the fast sometimes to the point I only have an evening meal on rest days. Research has actually shown that metabolism shift to muscle catabolism and slower metabolism takes more than 2 days of strict fasting to occur. Resting Day Highest Caloric intake 1800 cals, Lifting Days right at 2800 calories.

Alcohol and other lifestyle activities - I drink a drink occasionally when I get home and will also have a few drinks socially on occasion. According to Taurus Nutrition this should be a mild PH so I will not change this behavior and instead will take support supps to allow me the freedom to enjoy life. Too many social events and what not to stress myself out over a mild PH. You will also not see me saying I went to a barbecue and had a protein shake or anything like that. I am not getting ready for competition and am not going to be obsessively restrictive on my diet. Lean Gains actually provides a decent amount of leniency while still providing great results so this is not a concern for me so long as I keep it in check and my overall goal to continue to get leaner.

Current Weight is about 195 - I weighed myself fasted this morning and it says 195 but the scale would not completely true up at zero, it was a hair off when on Zero and not sure what that means on the triple beam scale. This morning my abs were looking pretty decent. Not wow but not sloppy either. I will take some pics soon. Not right now because I just ate a big meal with the wife and had a couple drinks so I am a little bit full to be taking any shots that would show my physique accurately. I will take some body fat measurements probably in the next few days and post them as well. I am around 10%, all my extremities are extremely lean, and vascularity is good as well. My abs are visible but not distinct at the moment but then again I am quite hard on myself so when i take pics here real soon you can see for yourself.

DOSING PROTOCOL - for the WYKED my standard dose is 1.5 scoops and I have been enjoying that. I have recently found out that the beta progestin is currently double dosed according to Taurus Nutrition so that the testers can experience the product as most users will by drastically increasing the recommended doses. So I will be running as requested. The beta is 1ML of sublingual progestin 4 times a day spaced out as evenly as possible during waking hours.

Last night I took 4 doses in a 6 hour time frame. Yes I know that is a bit much, but I was not going to wait to start and I wanted to get in a full days worth of dosing so I wasn't taking a half day at then end of the run.

First Impressions of TNP - Obviously not much to go on right now. However this morning I did get a bit snappy with my wife and kids due to some miscommunication and although I did not get completely out of hand I did find myself angrier and more intense than I would have been normally. I am not one to "rage" from things but becoming testy and aggressive happens when androgens are a bit higher than normal until I get used to them. I am thinking this may be the case here.

Other Supplements being used - Organ Shield By Purus - Dexaprine for thermo and appetite suppression on my low calorie days and a homemade mix of berberine, Na-RALA, and Cinnamon as a GDA on lifting / higher calorie days. I also take an l-glutamine and amino acid mixture before fasted workouts and ever few hours there after until I truly break my fast around lunch time.

PCT - As of right now I do not have my pct set in stone. I have some test boosters and what not in my stash, but am kind of hoping that Taurus will take full advantage of this log and toss me some of their DA-HCG to run. Either with it and after as Eric mentioned in another thread that he thought one may not even need a pct if they ran DA-HCG during a mild PH cycle. If not then just to run in PCT. Seems logging them together would be the way to go. Otherwise I will start a new log for my PCT with one of the other test boosting products I currently have in my stash.

Now I have taken the bull by the horns! So watch me ride this Mutha!

[MrKleen73]

Start date - 5/12/11 but today is Friday the 13th!!!!
Weighed in this morning 199 lbs, around 10% I will do body fat sometime in the next week.

5-16-11 199.5 Body Fat 9.5, LBM 180.5 lbs, Fat 19 lbs



5-28-11 200 Body Fat 8.4 LBM 183.2 lbs, Fat 16.8 lbs



6/10/11 - 203 lbs 8% BF, LBM - 186.7, Fat - 16.3

Well first I want to thank Taurus Nutrition for allowing me to test this product. I will keep my assessment short and sweet. Well for me anyway.

If you are familiar with my reviews I do not assign numbers to characteristics. The supplement market is far to volatile and dynamic for numbers to hold up. I will basically go through some of that characteristics and list my thoughts on them.

Lean Body Mass - I have to admit that this really accelled here. Considering how the product felt, I would have never guessed I would gain 6.7 lbs of LBM in a month.

Mood - I noticed some very minor Alpha Male and aggression at first but then I leveled off. About halfway through Alpha Male was gone completely for me.

Strength - The strength on this was more in line with me getting stronger because my muscles were bigger, but not stronger just because of the androgen levels. I would say this is WAY more anabolic than it is Androgenic. Might even recommend running a DHEA product with it during longer runs to keep the alpha male feel and libido high.

Fat Burning - I would say this is nuetral. In other words no increase that was not explained by diet. When I ate big I held water and looked bloated when I didn't I cleaned up easily.

Libido - I had surges of libido enhancement but not any overall nonstop type libido. A little over halfway through I started to lose interest in sex. I could still be easily turned on if it came to it but wasn't sitting around horny like normal.

HPTA - Did not get tested before or after only giving anectdotal feedback. I would say that this caused minimal shut down. As I mentioned with libido it was not as high as normal, alpha male was gone, and my testicles were noticeably a little bit smaller starting somewhere around the 2.5 to 3 week mark. I think for a 1 month cycle a good over the counter PCT would probably suffice. However going anything over that might find you requiring a SERM of some sort.

Sides - Honestly there were not many other than the percieved slight shutdown and the known sides that go along with that. If blood pressure increased it was only slightly but never anything I noticed. Urine always had a slight yellow tint, not really any other sides to mention.

Overall Experience and Opinion

This was a great run. I started off not noticing to much going by feel and was a little worried that there may not be too much to this product. By the end of the second week I could see some definite improvement and was pleasantly surprised that I had already gained some LBM while losing fat. I enjoyed a few long weekends and higher calories after this point, my weight jumped up holding a lot of water and glycogen, but not adding any fat. I spent the last week cleaning that extra water and what not off to end up 203 coming up from 199, that is a total of 4 lbs on the scale but I also lost 2.8 lbs of fat. Leaving me with a total gain of 6.8 lbs LBM over the 4 weeks.

If I were to compare this product for mass ability I would put it with Epi, however as far as sides go I would put this in a mild category. I would definitely recommend that you commence production of this product or move to the next stage of testing for sure.

Stats:
5/12/11 - 199 9.6% LBM 179.85, Fat 19.15
5/28/11 - 200 8.4% LBM 183.28, Fat 16.72
6/10/11 - 203 8% LBM 186.7, Fat 16.3

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[GoHardOrGoHme]

subdizzled!

[MrKleen73]

subdizzled!

EXCELLENT! So now I don't have to send you an invite. LOL

[GoHardOrGoHme]

EXCELLENT! So now I don't have to send you an invite. LOL

I sensed an epic log being made...i was drawn like a moth to light!

[EasyEJL]

I sensed an epic log being made...

I sort of felt that way in the bathroom this afternoon after having waffle house for breakfast.

[Milas]

Let's see what this can do for you! Looking forward to the great discussions!

[AZMIDLYF]

Yeehaw...ride em cowboy!

[AE14]

In on this with you Kleen

[JoHNnyNuTZ]

Watching this one buddy. Everytime Im getting a little down, you offer great advice.

[ScottyDoc]

Totally SUBd Bro!

[RickRock13]

I'm in for sure Kleen!! Wouldn't miss it brudda..

[MrKleen73]

I sensed an epic log being made...i was drawn like a moth to light!

Okay just don't keep ramming me like one. I have seen your squat numbers and have no interest in being in a wheel chair.

I sort of felt that way in the bathroom this afternoon after having waffle house for breakfast.

LMAO, Well I hope this one was as epic as that one probably was!!!!

Let's see what this can do for you! Looking forward to the great discussions!

Me too!

Yeehaw...ride em cowboy!

I got my Spurs we will kick it into high gear!

In on this with you Kleen

Good deal thanks Brother!

Watching this one buddy. Everytime Im getting a little down, you offer great advice.

Glad to have you Johnny, I hope that IF treats you as well as it has me. I think you will love it. Missed you in my logs too!

Totally SUBd Bro!

Glad to have your Sir!

I'm in for sure Kleen!! Wouldn't miss it brudda..

It should definitely be a fun ride. I expect to be one awesome looking Hombe when this is done and the crowd will chant TORO! TORO! TORO!!!!

[thebigt]

very witty title to the thread, lol-props!!!

[DreamWeaver]

Here we go!!

[oufinny]

2 hours in and I am post 1 million already, here and ready for some bada** Kleen logging!

[MrKleen73]

very witty title to the thread, lol-props!!!

Thanks T! I knew you would like that.

Here we go!!

It should be a fun ride!

2 hours in and I am post 1 million already, here and ready for some bada** Kleen logging!

Lets do this!

I want to go lift now!!!! Instead I will go take dose # 3 for the day. 1st was 4:30AM, then 9:30AM, and now 4:15 and will take another around 9 again.

Oh Yeah I did cardio this morning walking incline on treadmill 45 minutes 467 cals

[windwords7]

Right on Kleen. I picked you for a reason! I know this will be an EPIC log!

[MrKleen73]

Right on Kleen. I picked you for a reason! I know this will be an EPIC log!

Thanks WW7! I will do you proud. So I brought it up in another thread, does this need to be converted into an active hormone or is it actually another legal DS that can begin taking action immediately.

Reason I ask is Celc mentioned an urge to go lift today. I also have a strong urge to lift even though it is a cardio day and I have already completed my cardio. I was also more aggressive earlier this morning than typical getting worked up very quickly. I typically feel that 4-7 days into starting an effective test booster and or when I took Dymethazine I felt it the next day. It became stronger the first few days then I acclimated to it. If that is likely here I just want to know if I should make myself on the ready. I guess what it feels like is almost a fight or flight response but to becoming angry or frustrated. Once aware very controllable but I have to be aware. I definitely was not expecting that reaction so it A: had nothing to do with that and I was just a little over stimmed from taking a scoop of WYKED and only doing cardio, or B: is a sign of things to come as in RESULTS! Now 1 scoop of WYKED normally won't get me that speedy and I do 1.5 regularly so I am leaning toward it being related to the progestin.

Also not sure if related but... I woke up about 2-3 hours after falling asleep last night and was sweating. As in when I got back in bed my sheets grossed me out a little... Now I did have a big meal about 1.5 hours prior to bed and my metabolism ramps up with big meals and I can feel it but this was a lot more sweat than I would expect since I have had large meals before bed before. My room was 72 degrees and I have a fan on me at all times so not due to being hot in the room either.

[AZMIDLYF]

Sounds like this is kicking in already. Sounds like Eric came up with the real deal boys!