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    SWOLLEN87's Quest for STRENGTH (with epi)


    soo, in the past few months ive gone from 220lbs back to 205....

    basically found out i was allergic to gluten/soy and its in everything....

    im comfortable at this weight because i havent lost much strength...

    BUT I WANT MORE..... dont we all?

    Previous cycle history...

    epi
    dmz
    superdrol
    furuza-a

    about me

    23 y/o
    about 205 10-12% bf (guess)
    electrician
    ex-trainer nsca cert
    convicted felon/alcoholic/maniac

    cycle

    preloading hawthorne berry milk thistle and sam-E 10 days

    epi 30/30/30/40/40 (this may change)
    vitamin e 400iu
    vitamin d 5000iu
    macuna
    purple wraath (or intrain wtf)
    orange triad fish oil too

    also running nolva throughout cycle (very gyno prone)

    have letro clomid on hand

    pct

    nolva-40 for 3 days/20/20/10
    clomid-100/50/50
    yoked-5 caps on w/o days (this stuffs cool)
    daa(bulk) 3g ed beginning 5th week of cycle ending 3rd week of pct
    an ai beginning 3rd week of pct as week
    creatine mono 10g ed
    jacked 3d (madd scoops brah)

    current PRs

    squat 405x1 below 90
    deadlift 550x1
    bench 335-345 depends

    GOALS

    squat- 425 or higher... this is my weakest lift (2 years ago i was in a wheelchair after a motorcycle accident)

    deadlift- my goal has been 600 for some time now... ill settle for 575 on this cycle

    bench-350-365 (ive hit 365 in the past on sd... just havent been able to keep that strength)

    not really trying to gain too much weight on this cycle... im mainly interested in the recomping effect of epi.... wouldnt be upset with a few lbs lbm

    cals will be kept at or just above maintenence ... about 3000 3500 cals

    workout

    mon-legs
    tues-back tris
    weds-cardio/abs/plyo work
    thurs-chest
    fri-legs/back (deadlift day)
    sat-arms/shoulders (beach muscle day)
    sun-cardio/abs/plyo work

    note: this entire set up may change... sometimes ill walk into the gym, decide i feel good, and ill set a PR... even if im not supposed to be working out that day

    im open to any suggestions/opinions reguarding how i have this all set up...



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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html

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    Looks great! Sorry to hear about the gluten allergy. That one is a real pain, but now that you've got it identified, you can work past it.
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    The convicted felon part was funny anyway I'm sure you'll kick butt on this cycle. I'm going to try and catch up to you in lifts buddy. Great job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    Looks great! Sorry to hear about the gluten allergy. That one is a real pain, but now that you've got it identified, you can work past it.
    thanks, yeah i spent 4 months with horrible ****s... couldnt figure it out.... gluten=horror for me

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    The convicted felon part was funny anyway I'm sure you'll kick butt on this cycle. I'm going to try and catch up to you in lifts buddy. Great job!

    Edit: next time try erase on cycle a lot less problems and a lot better then nolva on cycle.
    thanks man, im getting ready to kill this sh*t
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    does the convicted felon part mean you got a jail body?

    edit: you get gyno from epi? I had mild gyno at the start of my cycle and the epi killed it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    does the convicted felon part mean you got a jail body?
    hahaha naah... it just means i can do a sh*tload of pushups.... i think i could get 100 or 110 straight


    i had a hard time in my life 2 years ago, lost my mother to pancreatic cancer, grandfather to a stroke, broke my legs in a motorcycle accident, and developed a huge drug/alcohol habit....

    lets just say, i didnt care too much about getting arrested....

    but i have changed now... i dont smoke crack and beat people anymore.

    edit: i have a tiny lump, smaller than a pea.... sd makes it blow up, im running the nolva to be safe.... last time i ran epi it scared me a little...
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    ah good for you for getting back on track. My lifting partner is built like he spent time in the big house He got shot in his leg when he was a drug dealers muscle. Weighs like 190 lbs at 6% bf. 19 inch unflexed arms, 13 inch legs. He looks like he is going to tip over at any moment. I crack mad jail jokes on him.
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    wow man sounds like youve been through some rough patches in your life
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    ah good for you for getting back on track. My lifting partner is built like he spent time in the big house He got shot in his leg when he was a drug dealers muscle. Weighs like 190 lbs at 6% bf. 19 inch unflexed arms, 13 inch legs. He looks like he is going to tip over at any moment. I crack mad jail jokes on him.
    haha thats how i looked when i got out of the wheelchair after the accident...

    when i crashed i was about 190... within 3 months of being in that chair with painkillers and liquor, i was 155lbs...

    my calves are still like toothpicks, but my quads/glutes are big again...

    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    wow man sounds like youve been through some rough patches in your life
    yes i have.... hopefully i can keep moving forward and getting better/stronger each day.....

    i must say, bodybuilding/powerlifting has def. been a life saver for me.... its the one healthy hobby i got... it keeps me off the street, it keeps me out of bars/clubs ect... and most importantly.... IT GETS ME LAID


    edit: make sure you guys throw some libido checks in here after the first week or so, when my libido falls off
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    ha... alright... so heres what happened...

    cycle went from epi... to primo...

    400wk

    1st injection ever today... like cake
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    lol well are you gonna atleast take some epi ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    lol well are you gonna atleast take some epi ?

    im gunnna use the epi for the first 4 weeks... and then winny the last 4 (maybe)
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    deadlift day tomorrow... cant wait for placebo strength
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    used the electronic bf guesstimator at the gym yesterday... it said 12.3% bf... but those things suck

    so beginning weight of cycle is 205 @ 12.3% bf

    got this jittery manic feeling ever since the inj...

    for the first week ill be dosing epi LOW 10 mgs

    about to eat my pwo oatmeal/bananna and head to the gym...
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    workout

    deadlift

    no straps belt suit ect...

    135x10
    225x10
    315x5
    405x5
    495x3

    add chalk

    515x1
    545x1

    felt good, did all this a bit too quick... was finished deadlifting within 20 mins

    pull ups

    10 wide
    10 underhand

    add belt w 45lbs x5
    add belt w 90lbsx3

    did a couple sets of sit ups and curls supersetted

    had my shake

    2 scoops whey 10g bcaa

    helped my girl finish her w.o and then jumped in the tanning bed (no homo)

    post w/o meal potatoes and eggs!


    shake #1

    meal 1...5 eggs 3 whites 1 cup oj 1 cup milk

    meal 2... 1 cup oatmeal 1 bannana (uncooked)

    shake #2

    1 hour later pwo shake (using purple wraath for pwo/intra)

    shake #3 post workout + 10g bcaas

    meal 3....chicken breast sweet potatoe veggies 1 cup milk

    meal 4.... 4 chicken thighs and 8 oz pork roast

    meal 5... london broil broccoli brown rice 1 cup milk

    throughout the day i managed to get in about a gallon of green tea....

    i brew the green tea myself and just carry my jug around with me (not at the gym... LOL)



    ive got this feeling... cant pin point what it is... just anxious or manic maybe a little.... we will see .... shoulders/arms tomorrow.... placebo gains BRAhHH!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    woke up 730 ate 1/2 cup of raisins 1 cup oatmeal

    dosed 15 mg epi with fishoil and 1 tsp olive oil

    workout

    shoulder press db

    90x10
    100x10
    110x8
    75x12(30 sec break from last set)

    cable lateral raises

    15lbx10
    20lbx10
    25lbx10

    upright row

    85x12
    135x10
    135x10
    135x10

    skull crushers

    90x10
    100x10
    110x10

    wrist hurt from an old injury didnt finish tris

    bb curls

    45x10 (warm up)
    85x10
    105x10
    125x10
    135x10

    superset with hammer curls 40 45 50

    my arms were so fn swole

    couple sets of abs and then left... 50min workout


    edit: went for round 2 today...

    did 4 40yd sprints then ran a 7 min mile
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    threw in some topical 7 keto for the hell of it.... i had it laying around with no purpose... well see if it has any effect..
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    off day.... got to go food shopping

    interesting finds in the gluten free isle...

    it sucks not being able to eat any gluten... food costs more!

    weight was down today... 200 (i think i need more water)
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    bump... nobody loves me
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    bump... nobody loves me
    I love all convicted felons!

    I'll follow and make sure you stay outa trouble lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    I love all convicted felons!

    I'll follow and make sure you stay outa trouble lol

    hahaha


    :sarcasm:

    im retired tho ... just for today
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    hahaha


    :sarcasm:

    im retired tho ... just for today
    Now that I'm subscribed you must entertain me, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    Now that I'm subscribed you must entertain me, lol

    no doubt.... its my first log tho... so idk how "epic" it will be


    but ill do my best
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    so today i decided to postpone leg day... my quad is killing me... shot day is tomorrow so ill save squats for tomorrow

    today i lifted back, trying to focus on my lats&bis

    pull ups 20-10-10
    Add 1 45plate 10
    add 2 45plates 5

    lat pulldown wide grip
    stack (think its 240?)

    10-10-8- drop weight 15

    lat pulldown reverse grip

    200x10
    220x10
    240x8
    100x15 (no break)

    pull overs

    65x10
    75x 8
    85x 6
    85x6


    then we just did some curls... they dont matter... curls are for girls...

    no sides... i was down weight yesterday... 200 in the morning... today i was 208 when i woke up... lots of fluctuation in water....

    the primo feels really clean ... libido is higher than it usually is...

    my girl goes to school out in scranton PA>.... i told her to come home for some ravaging...

    my ballsack is hanging low and nuts are swollen... i feel like i just took a few clomids...

    if my libido doesnt tank during this cycle, im not sure ill ever run anything other than primo... i love this feeling
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    okay... so i had this feeling today... an unbelievable feeling...


    i decided to take the day to hit PRs ... and thats what i did...

    i dont think this is placebo... i think this primo/epi kicked in right away...

    squats

    135x10
    225x10
    245x10
    felt real strong so i went right to 315

    315x20PR

    did some light leg press

    and then.......................... ...........

    deadlift


    135
    225
    315
    405
    495
    545

    add straps
    575 PR

    im not usually a strap kinda guy, but i forgot my chalk... so i used the straps...

    placebo or not, ive never pulled that heavy before.... or squatted 315 for 20

    i should probably not try to hit these weights again till the end of my cycle... i feel like i was very close to an injury... and that would suck


    my weight is floating around 205 still... one day ill be 210 the next day ill be 200

    mostly hydration i think

    still dosing 15mg epi 300 primo
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    nice deadlifts man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    nice deadlifts man.
    thanks bro
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    bad news, shoulder is hurt... not sure how this happened...

    i think i may have done something in my sleep or the other night while i was deadlifting... idk.. im delaying chest day and icing/heating it

    ill be doing 45 mins of cardio/abs/plyo work today
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    my shoulder is f'ed so it looks like ill be lifting more like a bodybuilder for a while...

    today i did about 35 mins of fasted cardio (half scoop protien)

    did some light chest today (just really trying to get some movement back in my shoulder....)

    i have an appointment with a chiropractor to see whats good...

    basically, it doesnt hurt when i bench... but anything above my head it kills....

    still managed to get a decent pump with light weight and reps

    also weight is 210 (+5) and im leaning out considerably... will be sure to post before/after pics

    stpooed takin dat epi too... throwing in 50mg win eod.. maybe will go ed
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    edit: i have a tiny lump, smaller than a pea.... sd makes it blow up, im running the nolva to be safe.... last time i ran epi it scared me a little...
    I really want to know why superdrol causes a lot of "delayed gyno" even after PCT with a SERM and why it can aggravate gyno on cycle.
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    Took the epi out? I'd be careful with the winny, it can make tendons more brittle. Don't know what is wrong with your shoulder, just thought I'd warn you lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    I really want to know why superdrol causes a lot of "delayed gyno" even after PCT with a SERM and why it can aggravate gyno on cycle.
    My guess is that it has something to do with shbg disruption, prolactin, and unpure otc steroids... people say sd doesnt/can't cause gyno.... they should be shot.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Took the epi out? I'd be careful with the winny, it can make tendons more brittle. Don't know what is wrong with your shoulder, just thought I'd warn you lol
    I think I'm gunna take a few days off the win/epi.. I've got an appointment on Monday with a chiropractor... I think I might have slightly dislocated it when I deadlifted the other night:
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    fu*k my shoulder....

    been icing.. took off today

    weight is steady going up... barely eating over maint. cals 212 today
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
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    weight 211

    went for a fasted jog this morning... felt awesome

    nips are getting a little puffy (despite being on nolva) so i threw in 50mg atd and ill run it for a few days till they go down

    also macuna pruriens and vit b6 and vitamin e

    it seems im SUPER sensitive to estrogen/prolactin (whichever it is)

    been icing/heating my shoulder... i think i should be good to go by tuesday

    tomorrow is leg day

    since my shoulder is hurt, im thinking of turning this cycle into a recomp/cut or at least training lighter

    any input on this would be great
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
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    soo, the atd was a bad idea... came home today and my nips were puffier..

    dumbfounded... never using anything otc agian.....

    if anyones looking ... any input on taking letro and nolva while on cycle...

    im also dropping the epi...





    didnt hit legs today... foam rolling as we speak.. 2m is pin day...

    did chest today

    flat db bench 80x10 warmup 110x10 120x8 130x8 (1min between sets)

    incline 225x12 245x10 275x8 305x5 (shoulder felt great after being worked on)

    incline flys 30x10 35x10 40x10 (light focusing on stretching)

    cable flys supersetted with pushups (had a sick pump)

    kickbacks 20 25 30 x10


    im really upset about this F*ing nipple... im CONSTANTLY battling this thing...

    tomorrow it better be under control...
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    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
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    In for the ride bro.....sorry I'm late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    puffy nips?
    i say letro ad cabergoline

    cabergo worked well for me with nips but sides were horrible but i toughed it out.
    i would throw up like 3 times a day with cabergoline, headaches sucked, and my nipples would bleed if i squeezed them hard
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    puffy nips?

    i say letro ad cabergoline



    cabergo worked well for me with nips but sides were horrible but i toughed it out.

    i would throw up like 3 times a day with cabergoline, headaches sucked, and my nipples would bleed if i squeezed them hard

    Why caber?

    Primo doesn't cause prolactin issues directly.

    I've taken caber and was lucky enough not to get any side besides great orgasms. Yuh.....
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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